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Subject: Just bought the new SUV 4WD from DAZ and it wasn't scaled...


estherau ( ) posted Fri, 06 February 2004 at 10:58 PM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 6:46 AM

I couldn't believe it. It came in really small. Now I know I can scale it, but usually with poser cars they are already at exactly the right scale. Love esther

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estherau ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 1:51 AM

The Y axis too? that's terrible. Well I only scaled to 258% and didn't touch the Y, as I wasn't sure y petite figure would see over the dash, but I would at least like it to start at the right scale even if I have to alter it afterwards. Love esther

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 3:37 AM

Thanks for the warning. I bought the thing a couple of days ago but I haven't installed it yet. It really gets my goat when Poser specific products are out of scale. Freebies, I don't mind but paid for products should be "finished" before they are sold.

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estherau ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 4:51 AM

I just asked a friend whos a mechanic, as well as my husband and my friend's wife, to look at what I did, and they all thought 258% looked right. Love esther ps yes I was a little disappointed as it's not a cheap model my any means.

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 7:28 AM

I would send an email with the recommendationf or what the proper scale should be to Daz.

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estherau ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 7:44 AM

But before then I've got to sort something else out. It might have been something I did, but when I brought the model into vue d'esprit it looked like it was made of glass. I have to reapply the mats and it asks for a lot of bumps. then vue takes ages as well. I really need a new puter badly. Love esther

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 8:58 AM

Just installed it and yep, it's tiny. Oh well, scaled it up to 285%. Looks great. Tried rotating it on the Y axis and the whole body raises up at the front. Not the end of the world, I grant you, but IMO it's sloppy to ship a vehicle which comes in undersize and behaves strangely. God help anyone who wants to animate it; they'll have fun if it corners.

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maclean ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 10:13 AM

Y'all should tell DAZ about this. There's no excuse for sloppy work. And if no one tells them, they'll never know. mac


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 11:36 AM

It's already known, mac. There's a post in the DAZ forums about it. It seems the rotation problem has been corrected, but there's no updated file on the site yet.

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 11:50 AM

I bought the Hummer from www.iw43d.com a couple of weeks ago -- before the Hummer from DAZ was available. I haven't used it in any renders yet. I wonder how the two compare with one another? Hmmm........

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Tyger_purr ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 1:52 PM

not to toot my own horn, but i identified/diagnosed the yRotation issue and emailed DAZ.

They fixed it within 24hrs, updated the install and e-mailed me. I re-downloaded it from the same link in my account and it is straightened out.

As for the scale. I kinda hate to say this because of all the whining I'm sure will ensue but they don't seem to concerned about it and passed it off as the modeler using a different program.

Perhaps if a lot of people politely enquirer about the scale they will get a hint.

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maclean ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 2:17 PM

'and passed it off as the modeler using a different program' Well, all modellers use their program of choice, but they all SELL for Poser, so that statement by DAZ is meaningless. When you poserize a model, that generally includes making it at a scale that matches the default figures. It's perhaps no big deal for the users to scale something up, but if the modeller does it once, it saves people all over the world doing it over and over. mac


maclean ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 2:19 PM

'that statement by DAZ' I meant 'that attitude by DAZ'. mac


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 2:30 PM

Agreed, mac. Scale seems to be somewhat arbitrary with DAZ. Think of the Millennium Cat and the House Mouse, for example. Great huge things, they are. I bought HMann's Fender Strat when it was on sale there. That is also too big when it's first loaded.

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maclean ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 3:12 PM

SamT, I see what you mean. I was at DAZ just now browsing the forum and I read that the mill cat comes into poser the size of vicki. !?!?!?! I didn't know about this (I don't own any virtual beasts, just real ones), so it was surprise to me. Obviously, DAZ don't think anything of it, and if other products are scaled randomly, that probably explains why. But I have to say, I think it's pretty bad. I mean, come one.... scaling is about as basic as you can get. I broker through DAZ and I go to hell of a lot of trouble to make sure EVERYTHING is perfect before I submit a product. I never rely on anyone else finding problems. It's bad policy. But I would have thought that something as obvious as scaling would be noticed and corrected. mac


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 3:56 PM

I'm with you on this, mac. The humans in Poser seem to be at a certain scale, so it's not too much to expect everything else to follow suit. As I said before, I don't really mind if a freebie is out of scale (it's bad manners to complain, anyhow) but bought stuff should be bang on.

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estherau ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 4:11 PM

Hi SamTherapy. You scaled it to 285? That seems really really huge. Can you try putting a steph petite in there and see if she can see over the dash? Love esther ps my mechanic friend who knows all about cars said a Steph Petite (5 foot 2 inches) would have trouble seeing over the dash in an SUV but would possibly be able to drive it.

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joffry ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 5:21 PM

Hey!!! I can see over the dash in mine, and am only 5'2", and with no pillow..


estherau ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 6:43 PM

Can you actually see the road hehe, or just sky? okay, now try SP3 who is your size in the SUV and let me know what to scale the SUV please? Love esther

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estherau ( ) posted Sat, 07 February 2004 at 11:50 PM

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SanctumArt ( ) posted Sun, 08 February 2004 at 1:46 AM

The files with corrected scale and Y axis rotation were uploaded at Daz last week. It should be available some time this week. For anyone who would wish to use it before the updates. The correct scale is 275%.


estherau ( ) posted Sun, 08 February 2004 at 2:20 AM

Gosh I said 258 - how badly was I out? Love esther

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rrkknight3 ( ) posted Fri, 16 April 2004 at 7:20 PM

OK. I bought this today. It's still scaled less that the height of the Business Man. Before I ask DAZ, did anyone actually get a full size one?


estherau ( ) posted Fri, 16 April 2004 at 7:32 PM

I think the new version of the SUV just fixed a rotation problem. You'll have to scale it yourself. Love esther

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rrkknight3 ( ) posted Fri, 16 April 2004 at 7:40 PM

Hi, Esther

I had the expectation the scale was fixed from item 23 above. Thanks for responding.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Fri, 16 April 2004 at 8:03 PM

"Gosh I said 258 - how badly was I out? Love esther" I said 285. I was closer. :P ;)

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estherau ( ) posted Fri, 16 April 2004 at 10:21 PM

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Yep hehe. It's a nice model though. Funny but when I bring it in to vue d'esprit I have to change all the reflections or it comes in looking like a glass car. Love esther

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