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Subject: Alice wip 2.0


tjohn ( ) posted Thu, 08 April 2004 at 7:31 PM · edited Fri, 08 November 2024 at 4:43 AM

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Well, Alice is in the picture now...I think she looks good. I couldn't find a free model so I used a P4 Casual Girl, posed her and then loaded her into Wings and made her a dress and apron there and fitted it to her. I never modelled clothes before, but I think I did pretty well. It took about 6 hours, but I believe it was worth it. The hair is Kozaburo with an altered (by me) texture. I'll try to finish things up before posting another wip, but I was proud of the clothes. :^)

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Damia ( ) posted Thu, 08 April 2004 at 8:02 PM

I have to say that it is coming along quite nicely. Alice looks great. I just have one little thing about her clothes that you worked so hard on.....they look a little like clay. It could be smoothed just a little. Other than that, I love it! 6 hours for the dress.....very commendable and it does look good. :)

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danamo ( ) posted Thu, 08 April 2004 at 8:06 PM

Great job tjohn! I've messed around with Wings for about a year now, but I've never had the yarbles to try modeling clothes. Your 'shrooms and grass turned out great and the rest of the pic is really coming together nicely.


TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 08 April 2004 at 9:39 PM
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Looks great from here. Perhaps the sky could use some work...?

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Ardiva ( ) posted Thu, 08 April 2004 at 10:33 PM

Excellent tjohn. Bravo!!!!!!!!



Innovator ( ) posted Thu, 08 April 2004 at 11:16 PM

good progress TJohn but I have to agree about smoothing out the clothes. One other critique, the catepillar's texture bothers me a lil bit. maybe a brighter green/yellow DTE mix with a more slimy glossy less bumpy look to it...hope that made sense. But maybe thats just me great job though!


Slakker ( ) posted Thu, 08 April 2004 at 11:34 PM

Maybe just make the texture on the caterpillar slightly less pimply...he's described as blue in the book, right? Much better than my currently nonexistant entry...i look forward to the finished product.


tjohn ( ) posted Fri, 09 April 2004 at 1:13 AM

Yep, the caterpillar IS blue, Lewis Carroll said so, get used to it, LOL. He's not going to stay warty, though. I actually used the preset texture called "Hooka Smoking Caterpillar" then changed the color- it was sort of a private joke. All the textures so far are temporary, once I get all the models in, I'm planning on spending a lot of time tweaking textures. As far as smoothing the clothes: they were smoother-looking at one point. The dress looked like a bell, very flat. Very unnatural. I went back into Wings at that point and randomized the points so that it resembled cloth more, and then smoothed it. Which made a very large number of polys, but the result imported well into Bryce and renders OK in terms of how much render time is needed. Please believe me if I were to smooth it more in Wings, it would be too many polys (Wings was already slowing down to a crawl). I have already smoothed the clothes once inside Bryce, as well. Translation: the clothes are as good as they're going to get, I'm not willing to spend any more time remodelling. 6 hours is a lot of time. And they look very good to me. :^) Sorry, but I don't see the "clay" thing at all. Now the clothing that came with Poser4, THAT looks like clay to me. :^) Bryster, the sky is plain because I'll be adding smoke later, and I think any clouds might interfere with that visually. I may change my mind once the smoke is in place. Thanks to all for the feedback! John

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rj001 ( ) posted Fri, 09 April 2004 at 2:45 AM

looking cool, as someone who has just recently finished working on a stage production of alice and had got quite fed up with the theme, this has still interested me, i love the look.

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Claymor ( ) posted Fri, 09 April 2004 at 2:57 PM

I love your Alice stuff. Nicely done. I think the comment on clothes looking "clay'like" comes from the fact that you randomized. That's probably what created the bumpy "feel". Having messed in Wings quite a lot I wonder what it would look like, granted probably too late, if you would have selected alternating edges and moved "normal" to create an almost pleated look. Not really necessary though, excellent modelling job...really well done piece so far.


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