Has anyone turned M3 into a small kid? The problem I'm having is that no matter how small you want to make him he is still kind of muscular. I was trying to make a chibi or make him look like one and came up with this. I may put this in free stuff once I make it better. By the way some of my free items are coming down because I did away with my file locker. I'll be moving them to some other space soon so get them while they're hot... Buster and Lizbeth. Thanks in advance for any insight you may have. sorry..pics are low quality... you see M3 default/Buster/M3 little kid

Here's another pic... does he look like a kid?? oh btw.. Robert skin by Morris...

sorry... one more

I think what makes him not look like a kid is the head. It seems to big for the body. Generally kids have limbs that are not suited to their frame either they are to short or to long. That might make him look a little more kid like.

The head might not be big enough for that height... depending upon how old you want to make him. The skull doesn't grow much. What is most wrong are general body proportions. Kids are "awkward" more often than they are right with gawky arms and legs throughout most of the growing years. Young men tend to put on their muscle mass when they hit 18. Even gymnasts in high school have a hard time putting on muscles. (Fat is easy, muscles are hard.) Carolly

And the neck looks too long - that can maybe be fixed with y scale but it also looks too tendon-y and muscular for a kid. Dave

And also the ahem of the guy seems a little large. Perhaps make him have a silly grin as well?

And also the ahem of the guy seems a little large. Perhaps make him have a silly grin as well?

I'd suggest looking into getting a book such as "Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist" which has "head lengths" charts for various ages and (if youve got them) use your head lengths guides (I know there in p5 display>guides>head lengths). That should help get the body proportions right.

cool.. thanks Tyger.. I was writing (asking) about a head chart this morning right before my electricity went out. I didn't know about that. The neck is a bit too long, I have it on the thin dial right now with no y adjustments. Thanks guys for the insight.

I'd reduce the jaw and the chin, and perhaps soften the entire face more (if not with a younger or softer morph, increase faceRound and decrease faceSquare). Make the brows less prominent. Also I'd mess around with the skinny/heavy body morphs to reduce the amount of muscle tone - increase both equal amounts and see what happens - go from there. Hope this helps, Unzipped

Increasing the Round Face morph is a good idea. (I had a teen character I had to decrease that on, because I got him too young looking.) I'd also try out the heavy morphs a little bit to add a slight layer of fat, but not enough to make the kid look heavy. Kids are softer than adults (well, physically fit adults, anyway.)

Thanks for the help. There are so many dials for the face and it's very easy to skip over some that are obvious and very easy to not know what some do. Thanks.