I'm looking to do a comic strip where the central character starts of as a 13 year old and then tranform into a forty years old. I was going to use Victoria 3 body & face morphs, does anyone know the best way to do the age change. I wanted to use just the one character instead of using kid models and then adult models so that i can keep the same look. Cheers

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I think Dodger's AEON Teen Girl Anna is precisely what you're looking for. She ages from about 13 to adulthood, and takes V3 maps and V3 morphs.

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There used to be a product called Jubilee Petite v3 by Firebirdz available in the R'osity Marketplace. She was a rather sweet teenage version of Victoria 3. It looks like she has been superceded by Jubilee 2004 (see link). You might want to contact Firebirdz to see if s/he still has the original "Jubilee".

Do you have Anna elizabyte? I'm interested in both of them but wonder where I can see more pics. Also is it only the bodysuit that can be worn? The type on the pics is so small I can't even read it with my glasses on. If she can only use the bodysuit or special clothes you need to buy later I'm probably not going to be picking it up. Thanks for the heads-up on it. Marque

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Look here Marque.

Anna at full growth is V3. There's going to be a tutorial on how to modify existing clothing to add growth morphs. It's not too hard at all. The tutorial should be done by the end of the week. She comes with a bodysuit, and more clothing is on the way. Quick idea of the tut: 1) Create the figure for conforming, this involves a small bit of code hacking to remove the resizing. 2) Load the clothing and adjust it so it fits the base figure. Save the .obj file. 3) Open the base conformer that comes with all the Aeon figures, and point it to the new .obj you created. Save. 4) Load the new clothing you've created. It should fit the the Aeon figure exactly. 5) Turn the Aeon figure to the oldest level. 6) Adjust the clothing to fit this pose. Note: it's mostly just dial twists. Most loose clothing will nead little or no adjustments. Tight and very form fitting clothing may be more difficult to do. You can also use Tailor to transfer the aging morphs too, but I've found that there are so few adjustments in most clothing that I don't bother. 7) Save the adjustments as morphs. 8) Do steps 5,6, and 7 for the Younger setting. 9) Save the dress 10) add the code you cut out of the original .cr2 file to the new clothing and save. Everything should fit fine. A much better explanation with pictures will be posted as soon as I find the time to finish the tutorial. The total time for this process takes me about a half an hour. When you're done you have clothing that will animate the same as the Aeon figure. Things like loose fitting robes go even faster. And Mary, the newest Aeon figure, goes from about 9 or 10 to Anna's lowest setting. Dodger's idea is a complete male and female set that that goes from Pre-School to adult.

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Here's Dodger's tutorial for converting clothing from M3 to Seth. It doesn't include on how to do the aging morphs, but that's coming. The principles in this tutorial apply to converting any clothing to one of the Aeon figures.

Do you have Anna elizabyte?

I do. There's a picture of her in my gallery here, the dryad one. She's wearing the converted body suit with an ivy freebie from 3D Arena.

There's also a recent picture with Anna at Poser Pros, done by Rubbermatt, if I'm recalling correctly. Look through the titles in the gallery forum there and look for any that mention "AEON teens" or "Anna". There are several there, I believe.

I knew pdxjims would turn up and answer technical questions. waves :-)

Oh, and there's already a dress for her at Poser Pros, and I believe she's going to be getting her own version of the Goth As Fashion clothes, and I'm sure there will be more. Dodger's pretty good about supporting his products.

bonni Message edited on: 06/07/2004 10:07

Anna at full growth is V3.

So, does that mean the clothing sold for Anna can be used for V3, if you set its morphs to the oldest setting?

I haven't decided on the Aeon kids yet. I'd sure like to have child figures that pose better than DAZ's MilKids. OTOH, I'm usually too lazy even to use The Tailor to add morphs to clothing. I'm sure not going to be hacking CR2s much. The "borrowed" clothing in the promo renders doesn't seem to fit all that well. If they catch on, and other people start making clothes for them, I'll probably buy them.

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You can shrink V3 down (body dial)to 90 or 93 and then size the head up to 105 or 108. That's what I did with my Lizbeth character that I had up in freestuff the same with Buster, Tommy, Freshman and Danaos for the Freak. You can go to my gallery and see a picture I did with the Freshman morph, David and La Sombra V2(shrunk down to 93% no head enlargement)"Angel Beach". They look like teens to me. You can go buy a new character and then try and fit clothes to them and use the tailor and all that, if you use what you have and shrink everything down all should fit with some very minor tweeks. My Freshman morph is just M3 shrunk down to 90% and the head enlarged to 108%. He's the same height as David just a bit more defined. If you shrink the whole body down then the hands shrink too. If you shrink each appendage x/y/z then the hands stay large and the thumbs look out of proportion to the body. The trick to shrinking down the hands is to x=scale them down or scale them down then scale down each finger section the same as the hand. I found that out doing the Danaos pz2. Don't forget that if you enlarge the head enlarge the eyes too. I hope this helps.

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Ageing clothing is designed for the base figure, and the morph applied does resizing and special fitting. A dress made for Anna will not owrk on V3 if you just turn up the aging dial. What should happen if you do is that the dress will grow to too large for V3, and because the JPs are different, it wouldn't pose correctly. However, Anna with a morph of older set to 1 is V3. All of V3's injection morphs work fine with Anna. So you can use Anna with a setting of older at 1 for V3, so you get the same effect. The real advantage to the Aeon aging figures is the variations you get by twisting those custom morph dials. I really like using Seth with an older morph at .5. It gives him an adult look, but very different than M3. I also like Mary with her younger setting at 1. She becomes the perfect little preteen girl, but with the V3 mesh, rather than the V2 mesh. Dodger did a render of her with an Asian look thats adorable. Here's a link to a pic I did of Mary at her youngest as a sprite. Dodger says she looks spanish, although that wasn't my intention when I did the render. He's right, I just didn't plan it.

What dress is that in your picture?

It's actually a P5 cloth room thingie I did. I've got a number of them I play with.

I thought it might be dynamic cloth. Looks good!

Dodger's Aeon series is brilliant. And Seth and David is at almost the same height, meaning you can have two teen buddies, that still look rather different, eventhough they're both derived from the same (uni)mesh. I just got Mary but I haven't had time to play with her yet. She looks promising though, I like your pic pdxjims :o) btw it's David at the left and seth at the right

usslopez - You did a fine job on Angel Beach. This is prolly a dumb question, but which one is David ? -- I assume its the darker skinned guy ?

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A 13-year-old is really a young woman more than a little girl. Do a web search for "seventh grade" for images of that age group to compare to. I've found the typical seventh-grade body shape is within the range that V3 can do just with DAZ's morph packs and possibly the Teresa character if you're a platinum club member. Here is a picture of Amelia, one of my characters who is supposed to be a little short of 13. The dress is for visualization; I would have shown her in her school uniform, but I was having cross-talk issues with her shirt and it was keeping default V3 breast size. I can't show her naked, so I threw the MFD on her and trimmed it to school uniform length. Anyway, I may have used the Teresa character somewhere in her creation; I THINK I took out the custom morphs, though, and just kept the scaling. Smaller breast morphs, head scaled up a bit, some bodyparts scaled. Probably tweaked with arm and leg length (sorry, closed Poser without thinking about it). Play around with what you've already got, and you can probably get where you want.

I love Teresa. Especially that "fit clothes" pose that lets you fit any V3 clothing to her. Even clothing that doesn't have any morphs in it will fit. I don't know how he did it.

Is Theresa V2? I have her but have never done any pics with her. I like to use LaSombra for her face and the Goddess texture because it's nice and tan. This is what I do to make her match up with the other pz2 I've made. Just shrink her down to 93% but I think it's the Goddess texture that makes all the difference. Then shrink down everything else. To me she looks around 16/17?

No, Teresa is a character for V3. The link is in post 18 above. The problem with just resizing is that a child is not just a small adult. Teresa really looks like a child. Flat-chested, boyish shape, etc. I can never make a convincing flat-chested character out of V3, let alone morph clothing so it fits.