There is a recent forum thread at the 3D Arena site concerning an updated release of Sara by Dark Whisper over at Daz. It seems the modified file has not gotten any write up or announcment any place I know of, and not sure what is going on with it. There is a screen shot of the updated character, and quite frankly [IMO] the changes are not improvements. Anybody have any feedback from this end of spectrum on what is happening at Daz with Sara??

... (bookmarking just in case I need to update my Simon morphed sara cr2)

I only found out about this today. The updated Sara looks markedly LESS like G.I.R.L. No prizes for guessing why that was done... bonni

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Where is the update? I can't find it can you post a link to it please? Thanks, Marque

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=1204&highlight=sara Download from the forum. The link goes to the updated version. If you want to keep the old version, too, don't overwrite the existing file. bonni

I've noticed this recently as well, I downloaded Sara when she was released then I lost everything on a hard drive crash so I went back and downloaded her again only to find a not too cute Sara face I wanted. Not big deal for me, but I wonder if some products that were done before the change (since she wasn't updated, the face changed completely) will still work the same.

was there ever an update for sara to fix that weird issue she had with her hands? (I downloaded her...created one character for her (a mummy/vampire...at poser pros)...then neglected her since) Rawn

The only fix for hand on sara I ever got was DW posting how to fix it manually. I did that and saved Sara back to the library. I read in the Daz forum people saying they redownloaded and the fix was not applied just more ear morphs. I never did redownload so don't know the real answer.

I redownloaded Sara in March and the hand issue was fixed with this version. Not sure about that new Sara.

There was a fix earlier - if you look at the image I posted at 3-D Arena you can see that there are issues however. Tralfaz's free texture doesn't line up correctly under the eyes and yes there are morph issues. At least that is what got the attention that the file had been changed, a package created using the new mesh did not work on the older one.

sighs Looks like I'm going to have to get the new version so I can check my textures and morphs for Simon. WHat a bother. Thanks for the heads up guys :)

crap.....I would love to download the fix for the hand, but i dont like that new face. I mean I can understand why daz did that, it makes no sense having 2 such similar figures....and GIRL has more notoriety, so she keeps the face. I just use such characters so very very rarely, and would like to keep the sara I paid for, not her homely sister LOL Rawn

Woah nelly! man talk about a change! yipes. This is the "Morning After you picked her up at the bar Sara". Actually its weird, she looks a lil like Vicky now. Good news though! from the neck down the morphs work. The head mesh has changed, so head morphs will need to be made differently for Sara1 and Sara 2. Not sure of the neck, but I imagine some changes there as well. To install without overriding Unzip newly downloaded Sara into a temp folder. Change the sara2.obj to sara2b.obj open the !sara.cr2 in WordPad and change the 2 references to sara2.obj to sara2b.obj. Save and exit. (use search, its a looong file) change Sara.cr2 to Sara2.cr2 Now you can copy the new sara stuff over to your runtime without losing the old sara. to install Simon onto the new Sara install sara2 according to the above download and install Simon for Sara from my website Download and install MorphManagaer from Freestuff if you don't have it already. Start MM. Open Sara2 in one window and Simon in the other. Copy over the thickwaist and norack morphs from Simon's rCollar, lCollar, Chest, Abdomen, Hip, lButtock and rButtock. Save. You now have Simon for Sara2. Congrats. Oddly enough the new face works nicely for Simon lol Lyrra

Lyrra, The head morphs for Simon (e.g. BoyMouth, BoyHead etc) does not seem to work. Am I missing something ? regards, Andrew

I tried to find DW's post (I assumed in the sara thread at DAZ) about the fix for the hand (for Sara1) but can't find it. Does anyone know where that fix is posted? If it is in the DAZ Sara thread, any idea on the post date so I can narrow the search? MachineClaw, do you know where the post is or are you able to relocate the info? Thanks, Dave

Dave, there was always only one download for Sara and that is the one in Steve's posting - the very first post in that thread. DAZ updated the file but never added another download. So now you can decide to keep the original Sara with the hand issue or download the new version.

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=1204&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=72 Page 5 DW posted instructions to fix hand. My browser keeps crashing when I post, hope this one makes it.

Mathman, In my pervious post I said that 'from the neck down the mesh is the same'. So logically morphs based on the Sara1 Head will NOT work on Sara2 head. Sorry. I'll remake the Simon head morphs as soon as I can scrape two minutes out of my schedule.

There was one intermediate update to Sara that corrected the hand problem and well as one with the hip I believe...this was also not posted or announced at Daz when it came out. So actually I think this latest file is the 3rd d/l of Sara that has appeared at the Daz forum board. I am not sure why they feel they have to be so secretive about Sara updates, it can't be simply because she is a freebie for the character has generated a lot of profits on the accessory store items. I did d/l the new one just so I will have her, but prefer the first release. I still think the Neftis NefToon Gal looks more like Goosen's "The Girl" than Sara does.

Well you can kiss any support of Sara good bye from Dark Whisper. Just got his newsletter and he is releasing Staci June 16th. Limited explaination was that Dark Whisper thought Sara was too much like The Girl. hahaha. Staci looks like what I imagined The Girl would come out as, should be interesting to watch now. Staci is sceduled for release June 16th acording to 3D Universe newsletter and thread at the site. Betcha when The Girl comes out at Daz Staci is pushed to the backroom to turn tricks as Daz doesn't like competition to their Daz Original figures (past history facts, hopefully changed). Guess I have to wait for PosrPros or other site to come out with a toony girl with support or make my own.

I have seen Sara2s tests here and at 3dComunne. I recognize that the hands bug is annoying, but for me the Saras charm is HER FACE! I dont like that new face, I think kills the character. Definitively, I will not update my Sara

where is it on the link, I can't find it.

"where is it on the link, I can't find it." err wha? Sara? or newsletter? or? Sara2 the new "improved" face model is same link as it always was, at Daz forum, old Sara1 is no longer a download. Daz did not rename sara, the new download of sara overwites the old Sara model and you are left with new improved new face Sara (which some are calling Sara2 now). http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=1204 available at the link.

sara update

Well that's part of the problem. There is no sara update. At the Daz forum link that I posted you can download Sara, the only link for Sara. The file that you receive from the thread is the updated new improved Sara. Now if you have the OLD Sara it's the same file name, only the size has changed. If you have the old Sara file it has the original Sara face/head. You can rename that file Sara1 and the new file Sara2. That's were looking up at post #15 in this thread comes in to keep old Sara (1) and new Sara (2). If you have never downloaded Sara before, the only thing that is available is the new improved Sara model, you cannot get the original. Someone could encode the old Sara and distribute that file, but I don't know if that is possible and nobody has done that. Very confusing, kinda hard to follow it all. Daz not mentioning the switch, or offering the old file adds to the confusion. Hope that kinda helps understand all this.

The mass confusion is due to Daz's lack of providing adequate information. I read about the hand fix update on some forum other than one at Daz, same as with this moat recent update. When Daz issues an update they just throw it into the old d/l slot on the forum and don't bother with letting people know what is going on. This is probably a lack of training forum admins in 'polite policical procedure' ... or as we used to say in the Army, they forgot their 7-basic military P's: Practical Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance.