Why do I get holes in my clothes when applied to my character. This happens with both Vicky & Posette and yes I am using the right clothing for the right person. Any help? If no suggestions, I guess my characters will just have to stay naked and be cold this winter ; ) Kelly

Poke through is a well known problem with conforming clothes. You can use magnets or make the body parts invisible.

Moths? :)

Are they splits in the mesh or poke throughs? Conforming or Dynamic? Can you post a screen shot?

Thanks.

Here's an example.

It looks like you haven't conformed it yet.

You are right I didn't... next I will post the image of her after the item was conformed. It gets worse... Kelly

And here's after conform, no matter what I do it stays like this, the dress even if I scale it to obnoxiously large it will keep the weird holes, and do really weird things around the hands and arms. Kelly

Here's a shot in the dark...

Is the dress for Victoria or Victoria 3? Generally, "Victoria" refers to Victoria 1 and 2. Victoria 3 clothing is usually labelled "Victoria 3"

Something else you should try is to clothe, then pose. Always start with your figure in the default position.

Message edited on: 10/21/2004 17:29

That is her starting position. I didn't pose her that's the pose she was in when I opened her. I'm fairly certain that the dress is for v3 but I will double check. Oh and that can't be the problem anyway, since the same thing happens with posette and her clothes as I mentioned in my first post. But thanks anyway :) Its going to be a cold winter for Posette and Vicky. Kelly

Oh crap you are right the dress is for Vicky. But still why does the same thing happen to Posette with Posette's clothes? Sigh. Kelly

a little pointer that may help: Bring in you figure, turn off the IK's, under the figure command. Next under the Windows command locate the Joint Parameters command and Zero the figure. Now bring in you cloth and conform. Depending on how tight the clothing is you probably will get poke through when posed. Fix as mentioned above.

Victoria 3 doesn't load like that. IIRC, the original V3 loaded in the sitting position, as in the product icon and subsequent updates have loaded standing in the DAZ "neutral" pose, as in my pic. To zero the figure, switch off IK: Figure - Use Inverse Kinematics - uncheck Left Leg and Right Leg. Next, go to Window - Joint Editor and click the Zero Figure button after selecting a body part on V3. Finally, go to Figure - Drop to Floor and you'll have a zeroed V3. May be an idea to save it back out as V3 Zero or some such. Try the same with Posette and see what happens.

nicked - ya beat me to it. :)

I like yours, you provide pictures:)

Yeah I figured out the zero'ing thing from nicks post, but that didn't solve the problem. And she does load in the position I have shown. I just double clicked her and thats how she appeared, but no matter, I can always just do the "zero'ing" thing. But that is the least of my problems. Its not a big deal since I plan to create most of my own clothing for my models, but its annoying. Posette loads in the normal position like you have vicky shown in, but her clothes still don't fit her either. I think I'll probably just give up on this. But thanks for the zero'ing tip that will definately come in handy anyway. Kelly

Don't give up so easily! We'll get you sorted. My guess is that as Vicki was saved with a non-standard pose, there's a good chance she was also saved with a fbm (full body morph) too. When you apply a morph to a character (such as making the thighs a different shape), the clothing figure or prop doesn't know anything about it. It still thinks the character it's conforming to is still the standard shape. If you look through the marketplace, you'll see most clothing items list the various morphs they include, to allow you to accurately fit the clothes to an altered body shape.

Load Vicki again. Select 'Body' and see if any morph dials are showing. If they are, make sure they're all zero. If not, make it so Number One, and then save Vicki again.

If not, I'll shut up and go away. Oh, and ditto Posette .. in her 'raw' state she's almost unusable .. but there have been many excellent character packages made for her, all of which change the body shape using fbm's.

Message edited on: 10/21/2004 19:57

Are you implying I give up too easily? ;) I've been messing with Poser 4 for a week straight with about 5 hours of sleep a night because I'm so addicted to the damn thing. I think its about time severe frustration takes over! :) Kelly

Scaling conformed clothes makes a mess of the cloth. Scale the cloth then parent to the hip or chest works. You should not need to do that though if the cloth is made for that figure. As stated already, when you double clicked your figure, it is default pose not zeroed pose. Try this experiment. 1. Load Possette. Figures > People > P4 Nude Woman. Click on it once, then click on the double checks once. (side note, I don't double click on things because you can end up lossing what you started.) 2. Load cloth. Figures > Clothing-Female > Unitard. Click on it once, then click on the double checks once. 2a. bottom of window it should say Figure2 Body. Click on Body. This will make sure it is selected. A little flaw of poser is it will still be the body of the first figure till you change it. 3.Conform to figure one. I'm thinking it may be the body glitch that's getting you. Now it should look fine till you pose, then you will get some poke through. The only thing I can add is to make the body part invisable if you can. All other methods have been stated. If the experiment works, it should be the same for vic, or else the cloth is not the right version or you have set morph dials.