Hi everyone.. :o) I've read through the manual and many tutorials and still can't seem to dress any body.. I'm using Poser5 with Stephanie , Stephanie.3 petite and Victoria.. I've tried to cloth them in the cat suit for both Victoria and Steph.3 petite and each time either the clothing pops up by itself (no Steph) or I double click and try to conform other clothing and the conform to text in my tool bar isn't highlighted. Being new to this programme, I'm hoping it's something quite obvious to you guys.. Any help will be much appreciated.. Thanx

Select the clothing item and then use, Figure/Conform To, to whatever figure you're using.

Are you trying to use clothing designed for one character on another? Victoria 3.0 clothes won't conform to Victoria 2.0 and vice versa, for example. Nor will Poser clothes work on these characters and Poser clothes won't work on Daz characters. Only clothes designed for a specific character will work on that character.

Load the figure into the scene then click once on the cloth item you want to use and then click on the button that looks like the picture to add the clothing item, then make sure you select the cloth item and conform to then select your figure which will be wearing the clothes. The button in the picture adds clothes or other figures to the scene.

You select the cloth when conforming to the figure just to make that clear. Clicking on the single checkmark (or tick) or double clicking a cloth or figure icon will replace the current figure or clothing with the one you just clicked on.

Thanx for your help.... ;o) I've also tried poser characters with Poser clothes and again when I go to figure>conform to, the conform to isn't highlighted and there for i can't click it... I might be using the wrong combination of Daz figures and clothing but the ones I puchased for Steph.3 Petite and Victoria were ment to be.. so I thought. (These are the cat suits)

Make sure that the catsuit is actually selected, if it isn`t then the figure>conform to wont work.

You Gals and Guys are the best...Finally she's dressed. Thanx heaps.. :o)

If "conform to" is grayed out, it's probably because the clothing is dynamic, not conforming. Dynamic clothing is completely different from conforming. It's a prop, not a figure, and you have to go into the cloth room and run a little simulation to get it to fit.

I am having some trouble too. I am using the Carla figure with duellman's bikini bottom, just to get a little clothing her. After reading this I was finally able to do that much. But everytime I change her pose, the bottom does not change. And when I click conform to figure 1 (the current name of the figure), it totally messes up. I placed an image to help. I just want the clothing to stay ON her if possible. I'm a total newbie to this, but I wanted to get better at using this program because I feel that it will help me make some really cool images. Also when using awful soul's free shirt, the coform to pretty much works, but her nipples stick out of the shirt and it also does not stay with the body. Please help??

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Okay, I figured out how to morph the bottom to fit her properly after conforming it to her. However, I am still having the problem of getting the bottom to stay on her when I select a new pose. I just want to know how to do that now... sorry for above message... thanks in advance for any help. PS I seem to be having the same trouble with her hair as well.

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Carla is a morphed figure. She cannot wear standard V3 clothes.

You have to be careful choosing characters and clothing. Some clothing has lots of morphs, some has none. If your character is morphed, the clothing must have the same morphs built-in, or it won't fit.

If a character has custom morphs, as Carla does, fitting clothing to her can be a real problem. Generally, you have to use a program such as The Tailor to transfer morphs from the character to the clothing. The ReadMe for Carla says he's provided some clothing morphs for her. You will need a free program called Morph Manager to transfer them to the clothing you want to use.

But if you're really new to Poser, you might be better off using a standard character, before you try a morphed one. You can set the Carla morphs to zero, so she has V3's standard body. Then V3 clothes will conform properly.

Thanks for the reply. I have the morph manager, but I wasn't sure what to do with it after reading the readme. Do I need to select the bikini bottom cr2 file and then Carla's bikini bottom cr2 file? Then add the morphs like in the readme? Then the same for the top? Or do I have to do this with her poses and using the clothing cr2 files? He doesn't go into too much detail about injecting the free clothing, plus there are no pz2 files for the bikini. By the way, is V3 a standard character? Or do I have to use Judy for that? Thanks for the help. And I got the clothes to fit, it is just having the clothes stay with her when I change a pose. Do I have to set a parent to each article of clothing? Like having the bottom's parent be her hip? Or something else? I am sure the same is used for regular standard chracters and clothing as well? Sorry for all the questions, but thanks for the help.

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Message edited on: 01/02/2005 22:08

Morph Manager can be a bit buggy. I think you have to open a pose file first. Any pose file, it doesn't matter. Then you open the donor CR2 on one side, and the recepient CR2 on the other.

Transferring morphs is a pain. You have transfer them for each body part, as well as for the full body.

You don't have to do them for each pose. If the clothing is conformed to Carla, it should move with her. It just won't fit her. If the bikini stays where it is when Carla moves, either it's not conformed to her, or it wasn't made to fit her.

If possible could someone tell me where I can get hold of 'Morph Manager'? AND!! I was readind the post 'randym77' made and do you have any suggestions on which characters and clothing I should be using to get the most out of Poser?? Thanx again... ;o)

Attached Link: http://www.senosoft.com/

Morph Manager can be downloaded at Senosoft.com. It's a plugin for P3doExplorer, which can also be downloaded there. As for "getting the most out of Poser"...that really depends on what you hope to accomplish with it. You can easily spend thousands on Poser figures, and clothes, hair, and textures for them. But it's certainly not necessary. Poser comes with figures and clothes you can use. There are also free figures and such you can download. You might want to practice with those before you start sinking money into this hobby. Poser is not for everyone, and if you end up hating it, at least you won't have wasted too much money. If you're interested in animation, you may not want V3 and M3. They take a lot of system resources compared to, say, Posette and Dork, or Don and Judy. (The figures that come with Poser 4 and 5.) If you're planning to do mostly nudes, well, you don't need to buy clothes. :-)

I've had Bryce for a while now and just upgraded it to 5 and the reason for Poser was to include some figures into my sceneries and then found out i need another programme to to that.. so for now am trying to get the hang of poser b4 purchasing any more software.. I was just curious to know what went goes with what, and has the most flexablity. :o) thanx again for the link...

If you're not doing a lot of closeups, there's no reason to use high-res figures like DAZ's. Posette, the P4 woman, would probably be fine for long shots/landscape scenes.

Register at DAZ3d.com. If you register and don't buy anything, eventually they will offer you free lo-res versions of Mike and Vicky. They can use the same clothing and textures as the regular Mike and Vicky. Also wait for them to offer a free month in the Platinum Club. They've been doing that a couple of times a year. That way, you can get the Turbo Import plugin that lets you put Poser figures into Bryce for just $1.99.

Eventually, you may decide you want to buy the newer DAZ figures such as V3, but there's no need to rush into it.

Thanks for the help. I did try the clothing with Vicky. The conform setting did keep the clothing with her when I changed a pose. I get what you mean now about Carla. I know that it said in the readme that you could use the morph manager to inject morphs onto the bikini that I was using to allow them to fit Carla. I'll play around with it some more and see if I can get it. Thanks for the help!

Attached Link: http://www.morphography.uk.vu/dlutility.html

Morph manager is available to download at the link. It didn`t start off as a plugin for p3do explorer and you don`t need p3do explorer to use morph manager.

Hey I got it to work! Thanks guys for the help. One final question though. Carla has poses where her breasts move depending on where she is leaning and so forth. That was one reason I got the figure because I liked the natural look. However, this is where the conforming falls short. Her breasts just fall out of the cloth. When I keep the pose and simply default the breasts, it works. Should I do it this way? As in the bikini top supporting them in some way? Or is there a way to make the top move with the breasts? Thanks everyone.

If you arent rendering animations you could just adjust the clothing to fit the poses, animation might be a bit trickier.

There may be breast morphs you can transfer to the bikini top, so it fits Carla when her breasts move. Obviously, breasts don't move the same way in a bra as they do when unencumbered. Poser cannot handle that kind of physics. Still, if Carla's creator provided breast morphs along with the others, you should be able to get a reasonable fit.

Thanx Randym77. I've been registered at DAZ for a few months now and don't like posting there much.. as the first few times I did they didn't seem to come across as a very friendly bunch... lol But after that tip ya just gave me I may have to gritt my teeth and bear it... Thanx again.. ;o)

Yeah that is what I was thinking too randym. I think that there are some morphs that I can transfer. I'll see if it works. By the way, would I have to do the same for any breast change and clothing? I was messing with Victoria and some different breast sizes, but when I try to conform a shirt to her, they clip through. The shirt was for victoria, but no matter how I moprhed it, I couldn't get it to look natural. Do the morph targets have to be the same value and parameter? Like on her left collar have breast size 8 be x.xxx, and then on the left collar of the shirt have breast size 8 be x.xxx? I feel like a moron asking all this stuff, but you've been a great help! And I am not rendering animation, just doing some stills. Thanks for the help. This is slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can find a white dress? I wanted one for one of my pictures, but I can't seem to find one. I'm not very good with 3d editors, so I was hping that someone had made one somewhere. Thanks.

Message edited on: 01/03/2005 10:35

Carla is an unusual character, because she has custom morphs. Most of the characters you see in the stores and the galleries use the standard morphs. The ones DAZ sells. That makes it a lot easier. Many clothes come with the most popular DAZ morphs already built in, so you don't have to mess around with Morph Manager. (Carla is a great character, but I really don't recommend her for beginners.)

Yes, ideally the shirt morphs should be the same as the character's morphs. You may have to tweak it a bit, especially in extreme poses.

But generally, you don't adjust the morph dials in each body part. Instead, use the dials for the body of the character.

You can change all the body morphs at once, by using copy and paste. Select the body of the character, click on the top line in the parameter dials box, and hit Ctrl-C. Then select the body of the dress, click on the top line, and hit Ctrl-V. That will set all the morphs dials in the dress to match the morph dials in the figure...but only if the clothing has all the necessary morphs. Not all clothing does.

It's easy to change the colors of an object in Poser, so find a dress you like, and turn it white in the material room. If it has a texture map, delete it. Then set the Diffuse Node to the color you want.

Thanks I'll see if that helps. I'll probably be back with more... :)

Okay, I've been doing some work with Vicky now as a standard character. My new problem is almost the same as with Carla. Most of the clothing that I have for V3 does not fit on her if I morph a part of her body. If I change her hip size or breast size or anything like that, most of the clothing that I have for her does not come with those morphs and I cannot change the clothing to cover her. What do I do to change the clothing? Most of the clothing seems to only work if you leave Vicky at default. When I try to use morph manager to inject morphs onto the clothing, say a shirt, the morphs show up, but when I change the dial, nothing happens. What do I do? Is there anything I can do? Thanks in advance.

Ideally, you want to use clothing that has the morphs you want. Check before you buy.

You can also use The Tailor (a program sold at DAZ). It allows you to transfer morphs from the character to the clothing (unlike Morph Manager, which can only transfer morphs between similar meshes). The Tailor doesn't work for all situations, but usually you can get something usable out of it.

If you don't want to spend money, you can try to adjust the clothing yourself with magnets. Or see if someone else has done it; with popular clothes/characters, sometimes people make free "fit" poses that adjust clothing to fit.

Thanks I'll check that out.

On the copy and paste morph thing? What is the top line in the parameter box? Not sure what you mean. I can't seem to get it to work?

The pic is of the Poser 5 Parameter Dials box. It looks slightly different in Poser 4, but the principle is the same. The area circled in red is where you click to copy and paste.

It will only work if the clothing has morphs to match the dress. It just copies the dial settings from one figure to another, it doesn't actually transfer any morphs.

Poser uses plain ol' text files for most things. After you copy the morph settings from the figure, you can paste them into a text program like Notepad if you want to see what they look like, or save them for later use. Or you can paste them directly onto another figure.

Attached Link: DAZ3D

I finally figured out the Copy & Paste thing. It does work if your clothing already has the same morphs builtin. If the clothing doesn't have morphs, The Tailor works really well. Oh, in case someone still doesn't know, you can get Victoria 3 and Mike 3 free at DAZ3D. Yes, and they're offering a great package deal on all their morphs in one package.

Message edited on: 01/10/2005 10:31

Okay, here is my question. The Tailor is not working too well for me. What I have done for the test, and this is probably wrong, is I have started with Victoria 3. Then I inject the morphs that I want to use. Morph her to the shape that I want. Then for the affected body parts, I spawn a morph target, call it some name, then save the character as a CR2. Then I open the tailor, load the character and the dress, then copy all the spawned morph targets to the dress. I use the option treat slected morphs as one body morph. However, this produces undesirable results. The clothes seem to try and mold to her body which gives me a very wierd looking dress. Pants work okay, but even then they seem to wrinkle at the edges making them look horrible. Do I just need to copy the moprh targets that i changed and not spwan any morph targets at all? Or am I going about this the entirely wrong way??

This is the clothing item before I morph it.

This is the clothing item after I morph it. You see my problem. I am guessing it is trying to match the shape of my body, which doesn't work out to well. That was why I was wondering whether or not I just need to copy individual morphs. I mean, is there anyone in here that could give me a step by step. I just feel like I am doing something wrong, like I am not getting it. I am new to this, but once I figure it out, it will be like second nature. Also, on the copy paste, does the clothing item need to have the exact same morphs, to a tee? Or just the moprhs that you are trying to copy. Say you have ten body morphs on your chest, but only manipulate 2 of them. The clothing item has 13 body morphs, but has the two that you manipulated. Would the copy paste still function and copy only the changed moprhs??

This is the wierd stuff that it does on some clothing items when it tries to fit them properly. Also when i try individual morphs, I select one and it tells me that it selected 8. How do I get it to selects just one? Also, I did not manipulate individual body morphs on her chest or hips. I used the morph dials on her body. Do I need to copy those one at a time or through the queue?

I would just copy the chest morphs that are needed, the ones in the chest, left collar and right collar and apply these as seperate morphs not a body morph. Don`t make them a body morph with the tailor, either just to make that clearer.

Still does not work for me. It still does the same thing that is happening in the picture above. Maybe I just can't get that article of clothing to work?

It seems that no matter what I do, the bikini top and that shirt just will not morph properly. From what you guys tell me, I am doing it properly, it is just not working right. I don't know what else to do. I have tried every different kind of thing with the tailor and nothing seems to work.

The message 36 picture could be fixed by making the chest morphs slightly less than their current setting.

Heh, I kind of figured someone would say something like that. It may work. It just seems like it should work regardless don't you think?

No, it must be difficult enough at times just to make the conforming clothes work (for the creators of them).

True. Well I am new at this, so I am not very knowledgable about these things. Hopefully that will change soon as I am planning on going through the multimedia program at ITT where I am currently an electronics student. Sure you don't learn Poser or anything, but you learn Max and other 3D programs so hopefully that will at least increase my knowledge of 3D art and similar things.