That looks delicious cooler. :) I need to get a chocolate fondue
pot and strawberries. @@ Is it spring yet? >

with a musical note

Oh ....... C a l y ..........

Where ... ARE ... you?

;=]

All together now ... We need pom-poms ... We need pom-poms ... We need pom-poms ... We need pom-poms ... etc., etc., etc., ............... ad nauseum ... ;=[

Interesting. After my surgery, this will be a fun piece to follow up on.

I wish you the best for your surgery.

This thread is on its last legs, I think.

Then again -- these things last for a week or more on occasion.

Pretty soon, I'll be too busy playing with Vue Infinite, followed by P6.

And I'll be having fun doing it. I'll leave the misery for others to wallow in, as they choose......however, if they should ever tire of being down all of the time -- then they are welcome to join us on the sunny side of the street.

It's a good property. I recommend it highly.

Yup, well said! ;=]

"CL deserves the support of the community which has been built around their product" Why exactly is that? Curious Labs is a company. Period. They are out to make money as are all other companies. Most PC's are run on Microsoft OS's yes? The entire web community is built around individuals that predominantly run MS OS's correct? So I guess we all owe loyalty to Microsoft because the web community has pretty much been built around them? Anyone saying anything bad about Windoze better watch out, they are "bashers" and deserve to be bashed themselves. What a load of crap. Curious Labs doesn't "deserve" anything. If they produce an app that does what it's supposed to and is stable, then they have done their job. It's what they get paid for. If not, then they DIDN'T do their job and will ultimately pay the price for their incompetence. Trust and respect are earned Xeno,and a lot of the trust CL's once had was lost after the P5 fiasco. Now they have to EARN it back by producing a stable and well built app.If they do so, I'll upgrade, if they don't I wont. Don't sing it, bring it. I keep hearing CL did a good job with Shade 7. Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Shade been around since the mid 90's? I'm pretty sure CL had nothing at all to do with the coding of Shade 7. They are simply marketing it for their parent company.

"It seems to me that a lot of people who complained, complain and will complain about Poser 5 or 6 are just overwhelmed by it. They are not up to the learning curve.

Let's face it, there is a huge market for people who just want to make a mostly naked girl image with minimal effort. What they want basically is a Poser 4 with a "make sexy art to post in the gallery" button and a "make porn animation for private use" button. Choose the girl, the type, the outfit (optional), the action and press "go"."

So You're saying we're stupid lazy horny people?

I don't know who are the "we" you are referring to.
If you read the forums in the past years, then you'll see how many people said something along the lines of "The cloth room is crap, I can't do anything with it."
Well, obviously some people can, so it's not the program.

My statement applied to "a lot of people". A good hint when you want to know wether someone can be trusted about his/her "this app is a crap" statement, is to click to see his/her gallery and judge wether it is the software or the user who needs improving.

I won't enter into the lazy/stupid question, but if you want an answer to the "horny" one, just peek in the gallery and make the effort to browse every single pic posted for the last week, and the comments they get.
Numerous threads have already discussed this topic ad nauseam in this forum, so 'nuff said.

The professional attitude when one is disatisfied with a program is to think wether it is the program or the user who needs improvement. If it is the user, get a tutorial, if it is the program, then just dump it and move on to something else.
Poser is cheap and gives cheap results, what else could be expected ?
If this is not enough for you, buy Maya.
If you can't afford it, read posts of some very talented persons in there who pushed Poser out of its limits.

Whinning about Poser or CL or DAZ doesn't improve anything in the community.
Now, if you have a good tip, tutorial, freestuff or workaround to improve Poser's workflow, I'm all ears.

Message edited on: 03/10/2005 12:23

Merci beaucoups, compiler 8-)

Uh ... yup, ........ what compiler said!!! ;=]

Yes.....compilers' got the right of it here. Ditto.

I'm with Compiler, geep and Xenophonz and those of like minds - I'm just sick of the bickering, whining and complaining without engaging in some civil way to see if there's a way to find a solution first. on the other hand... RAH! RAH! RAH! Bring on Poser 6, I'm ready!!! Weeeeee! Woot Woot! best cheer I can come up with on short notice. ;)