"43,651,794 polys and V5I handled it beautifully." Impressive! Could you post your system specs lingrif? It would help to judge just how impressive this is! Very nice cell shading Agiel! Anyone know when the demo is likely to appear? Cheers - Baz

This is amazing! Thanks for posting guys I'm getting really excited about this lol! Anyone beta testing on Mac here? If so what machine are you using? - Baz :o)

For the record my machine specs are: AMD A64 FX-53 (2.4GHz ~ 3200+) with 2GB PC3200 ECC RAM

Holy shit a thousand mikes on a 2GB system, I better start saving my pennies :)

Mac quickie.

Scene setting 20 minutes maximum, one Ecosystem. 1388 Vicky 3's, all dressed in Joan D'Arc costume from DAZ. I wanted high reflections in there.

440 milliuon polygons approximately.

Rendered on Mac G4 768 MHz, 1 GB Ram in final, render time 1hour 4 minutes. Not bad, not bad.

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GRRRRRRRR! Now I will have to pitch a tent by the mailbox! Really fantastic statistics!

"440 milliuon polygons approximately. Rendered on Mac G4 768 MHz, 1 GB Ram in final, render time 1hour 4 minutes. Not bad, not bad." OK, now you've got me drooling all over my keyboard LOL! Sounds like my 1.25GHz G4 eMac should cope with some sizeable scenes, I want V5I!

Can anyofyou try M or V with dynamic hair in ECO system to see how much slower that is ? Please pretty pretty please ;)

This is absolutely fantastic! I cant wait! The all look great folks :)

I don't think dynamic hair will make it slower. In import yes, but not for rendering at all. I maybe will try. Maybe one more "please" to convince me.

STOP THIS !!!!! ...... PLEASE ! I CANT TAKE ANY MORE ! :p

Mark, how long did it take to create the total "Mike's in Legionnaire armour" scene, with all of the 6 eco systems?

aeilkema: I did the "Legion" scene on Saturday afternoon, including a lot of fiddling about, experimenting, changing my mind, low-res test renders etc. Switched to another scene in the evening and batch rendered both overnight. -- Mark

Nope... still not impressed enough to spend that amount of money. I like the Agiel image though, nice look; - but then again, that can be done in any vector program in the time it takes to set up and render the Vue thing, (at least, if you're a little adept at old fashioned drawing). OK- I'll stop raining on your parade - it's just that this Infinite hype seems so utterly silly.

To BazC - I'm running an AMD 64 4000+ with 2G DDR3200 dualchannel RAM I didn't post render times, but V5I is much faster than V5, IMHO.

Mark Thanks! So once someone gets experienced enough it shouldn't take hours anyway. Martin, of course this whole Infinite hype is silly, but still fun :-) I'm very impressed, but I'm not going to spent so much money for it. The only thing I'm interested in is the Eco system, the rest of the Infinite features I would never ever use, I don't even use half of the Vue 5 features. So, it would be a very expensive Eco system..... unfortunally E-On isn't going to release the eco system as a module.

Thanks for the info lingrif! This is all VERY impressive!

Following Yggdrasil's fine example - EcoSystems can be used in mixed materials, and therefore, mixed bitmaps for placement...

The edges of the ecosystems can react to each other in various ways. This is a very powerful system!

The above image was created from scratch and rendered in less than 10 mins (probably shows) on a P4 2Ghz with 1Gb RAM ;-)

Oh, and it's 147,588,900 polys.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease :) Is there anychance one of you guys could check my addon pack and see if it works?, Free copy obviously ;)

bungle in the jungle - 2200 Vicky 3 with dynamic hair are rendering. 5% done so far. Needed a while to set it up in Poser. Sorry, but i have to leave in about an hour, so it is finished - or not. What addon pack are you talking about? Free copy always sounds good - as long as it is no virus or trojan of course!

Impressive! :)

Yep..impressive is the word! David and I are anxiously awaiting our copies! Love how you can control eco-system distribution with image mapping, very cool. I'm thinking V5I will work well on our notebooks (P3G, 2G RAM), looks like a lot of fun!

Just check my store here at renderosity, My second pack is coming soon but that wont be of interest to anyone with V5i because its animated alpha particles and a tutorial on how to use video as animated textures in V4 and above :)

25% of the 2200 Vickies rendered. Well, i am not sure wether all will buy Infinite immediately. No problem to include in my further tests/plays if you want me to. But don't forget, i am on Mac. Time to go home now!

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=907196&Start=1&Sectionid=3&filter_genre_id=0&WhatsNe

That above pic is brilliant/fascinating....As I stated above this is very exciting :)

Absolutely amazing....first thing I did was watch Phouls latest animation on E-ons website...surpassed himself yet again. Then these pics..like WOW. And now just seen the above pic...breathtaking. Can`t wait to get my hands on Vue 5 Infinite

Just another quick test, since everyone else is posting them :-)

This is an example of multiple ecosystems using mixed materials. No more than 5 minutes to put together.

mm roberts render is a real masterpiece (and yeah the new v5I video promo is real good aswell)

Ohhhhh baby!! E-on has graduated to the big time with this thing. These guys are serious and the big boys had better watch their backs.

"These guys are serious and the big boys had better watch their backs." Very doubtfull it will catch up with the big boys yet. Vue is very bad when it comes to modeling. That side of Vue still needs a lot of improvement.

Excelient, I really hope my upgrade arives this weekend. I been waiting on this one! So many good images.. I hope it as easy as it looks...

"E-on has graduated to the big time with this thing. These guys are serious and the big boys had better watch their backs." I don't think so. E-on has mainly shown to aim for spectacular crowdpleasing gimmicks rather than improvements to the core of their app. Sure, you can create thousands of trees - but they are still thousands of not particularly good-looking trees. Sure, you can create dazzling cityscapes - but they will still be sitting under skies full of unrealistically flat clouds. And while you can create billions of polygons in 30 seconds, you still have to deal with that clumsy material editor where it takes half an hour to get a simple texture mapped and sized correctly. Those are the things e-on really needs to take care of; if they do so in Vue 6 I'll find that much more interesting than Infinite, which basically boils down to the ecosystem.

well aeilkema, vue isnt a modelling software and i pray to god it never will be, and the big boys studios use several applications and v5I do fit in very well with most production lines when talking about most web/media studios that use 3d and video applications which most do today. So i would have to say that v5I is very much a real proffesional application, as for modelling any serious studio or freelancer should use other applications like c4d/3dsmax/maya/xsi and or poser which is actually being used by more studios then one might think. Being able to model is just one part of the pipeline. Just my opinion of course :)

It's good to see there is always source of improvement in software design. If they had worked on better modeling tools, there would be people to complain that they should create new features instead of re-creating yet another modeler. If they had worked on improving clouds and particle effects, there would still be people complain Vue is not a good modeler. And if both aspects were actually enhanced, there would still be people to complain about the pricing, marketing, color of the interface, and what else... Ecosystems are much more than just a gimmick to create forests. That will become appearant once people have a chance to really play with them.

I for 1 am totally enthused. I haven't given up on clouds or anything else. Who knows what will be in the store, after it opens. For all we know they could in the future add a puffy cloud module. If & when someone becomes a python master like Poser has Ockham....God only knows what will be achieved. Until then I'm happy with my alpha planes, since we can also use them as HDRI....

Totally amazing! The Phoul's video is totally crazy, I was unable to move at the end as I was under the shock! And then the picture of Robert with all its details, and this beauty! I'm really impatient to get Infinite! I will watch the video again and again till I receive my product (it is hopefully on its way;) )!

I have gone thru gallery & visited E-On MANY times today gaping in awe of these images....And I still am :D I'm covering my keyboard in saran wrap as the drool keeps coming LOL

What is the memory requirement for EcoSystem. Would seem like a lot for 2 billion polys? Very cool demonstrations...

Attached Link: http://www.e-onsoftware.com/Products/vue5infinite/?Page=15

Hope this helps :)

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For those who wanted to know - 2200 Vicky 3's with dynamic hair. 1.7 billion polygons. Rendered in 'Final: 1.45 hours. System. Mac G4, 768 MHz, 1 GB Ram. Not bad, not bad!