Ok, here it is so far. Modeled in Lightwave for use in Poser, rendered in P5, raytracing and blah blah blah. I imported the mesh and sized it to fit the Altary Boy I'm using in my film. I entered the Cloth Room and used 30 drape frames to get the drape right, surprisingly enough on default cloth room settings. What I'd like to do now is switch this over to a conforming clothing prop that bends with the arms, etc. Is that possible, even though it's more like a dress and not like pants? I know some people explained how to do that before, but I don't understand. What's the single best way to do that? If needed, what's the single best program to help me conform the thing? There's a shirt that will go over the top of this robe, white with a cross on the chest. I'll be doing that soon enough. Comments and crits are welcome. This is some of my very first moeling, and clothing at that. I'd love to learn from the experts here. ren

This looks awesome I think....but dont altar boys have that square necked white one on top....the chest part is flat (no cross)and the bottom is folded alot...make sense? I mean if you want to make it real...Now a priest would have a gold cross on the chest, I think. showing I do not attend church regularly here And I have been trying modelling for a week, I suck, if this is your first, pat on the back to you!!!

yeah, it's a white shirt that has relaively short sleeves and is sort of puffy on the bottom. For some reason I want to call it a smock, but I don't think that's right. He'll have a small cross on it (a necklace thing around his neck that hangs down to the shirt thing.) It's coming soon.

Awesome! Can't wait to see it!!

If you don't mind a few comments from a lapsed catholic and former alter boy... The cassock, which you have in red, was black back in my day. The white overshirt, a surplus, did have short sleeves, ending just above the elbow and hung down to just below the hips. It had a square neck that hit just above the collar bone and was about an inch on either side of the neck. It was pleated, as I recall. Way back when, and I'm digging back in my memory some 40 years ago, we weren't allowed to wear any sort of necklaces or any other kind of jewlery. That sort of thing was reserved for the priests. I don't know about today, I'm not much of a church goer any more. Hope you don't mind my throwing in my two cents worth. Please forgive any mispelling. It's not really my strong suit.

Wow, you really described the shirt I'm making well! But more importantly, I know what these items are really called now. Good deal. I'm modeling these based off some photos I googled. The cassock in the clearest photo was purple, but I thought that looked too fruity, so I changed it to gray. But, with gray, it didn't render too well, so I picked red for the test renders. It'll probably be black when I'm done. Also, on your say, I'll skip the necklace/rosary thing, whatever it's called. I really appreciate the input!

Glad to have been of service. For what it's worth, I also remember that they demanded that we wear black, shiny shoes. I never figured that out as just the tip only pointed out beneath our cassocks. Sometimes, going to Catholic school was like being in the marines. Well, that was the 1960s for you.

As to your original question I would seek out PhilC's help. He's one of the masters of clothing. He gives a tutorial on how to convert dynamic clothes to conforming in his new(er) Clothing Creator plugin. Your work is excellent. I love it. I can't model worth beans and envoy those who've taken the time to master it. Best Wishes, Rance

The reds were only worn on special occasions.