Main Entry: soon
Pronunciation: 's, esp New England 'sun
Function: adverb
Etymology: Middle English soone, from Old English sOna; akin to Old High German sAn immediately
1 a obsolete : at once : IMMEDIATELY b : before long : without undue time lapse
2 : in a prompt manner : SPEEDILY
3 archaic : before the usual time
4 : in agreement with one's choice or preference : WILLINGLY *

So has the word been re-defined...*

you left out: 5: when they're darn dood and ready: One of these days

i consider poser6 the layaway plan or an under construction program.

Yes it has been redefined. It has been redefined by the software industry. It now means: When it's done damn it. If we release it because you want it released, you won't have to deal with all the wining babies in the forums when something doesn't work right. Give it a rest and let us do our work... Please. That's the websters version anyway. :)

Why write soon and then fail on the promise? Why not write we are working on it and do not have a release date? Then you wouldn't look like a name-calling liar. I am refering to the whining babies? I think that statement reflects more on your post. If your spelling is as good as your debugging or reflects your work ethic then P6 is in trouble. Keep treating your consumers like this and soon you will have none left.

? Keep treating your consumers like this and soon you will have none left.

Just the whiney, impatient ones. I am more than will to give
them the time to do it right, instead of having to wait for
another one because they were pressured into getting it out
the door before they were sure it was ready.

It is more of an issue of the misuse of a word. That is the arguement everything else is a distraction from the arguement. I give up. Make excuses until your heart is blue.

I remember the old microsoft statement that - 1. Product A was available. But you could not get it because - 2. It was not yet shipping.

Wow... Sorry to get your hackles up. I was only funning.

Ah... The trusty 'ol spelling infraction attack scenario. Works every time. ;) I speel chicked scenario as tuh not git it wronguh. :)

I don't work there BTW.

Again, sorry to make you mad. That wasn't the intent.

Cheers,

Joe

Message edited on: 05/24/2005 21:36

Well one thing I learned when dealing with MY customers is I will never set an exact date (like I used to do) there are just too many variables and unknowns that can pop up. Even if I set a date twice as long as I think it would take to complete something, it still doesn't work out sometimes. "Coming Soon" seems to be the safest bet. I think everyone has to remember that 1 - They ARE working on the service release 2 - They are not sitting around twiddling their thumbs 3 - They know that we are an impatient bunch 4 - But they don't want to release anything that isn't done right. I am Mr. Impatient, no really...that's my middle name :) And I use Poser for my subscription website (ie. professionally) And I want this fixed YESTERDAY! But we need to let them take as long as it takes. In the meantime, take a walk around the block, read a novel, watch all one million seasons of The Simpsons, write your mom a letter. It'll be here when you least expect it. Did that help? :)

For some reason, I keep getting this mental image of a group of ravenously hungry men standing around a pot hanging over a cookfire.......staring at the pot...........

.......some of them willing to be a little patient......others want to lynch the cook.......

Of course, once their bellies are full, then everything should be OK after that. The cook might even get a pat on the back for his efforts.

From one or two of us hungry men, anyway.

The word 'soon' has never had any specific meaning. Soon as compared to what? Taken within the context of software development, I suppose one might be able to narrow it down somewhat, but it still can, and often does, mean months -- at least. I've done some programming myself, and there are a whole lot of variables. One can never be sure what may jump out and bite you. You can have personnel problems. You can have hardware issues, issues with your other software vendors and utilities that are absolutely necessarily for your development. You can run into compiler bugs, component bugs, undocumented 'features' of the operating system you're developing for, conflicts with other widely used but improperly designed drivers or applications, ad infinitum ... I want SR1, too. I want it. But it takes as long as it takes. You don't like it? Well then, we're all waiting for the show-stopping CG application you're about to develop, always deliver without defects, and always on schedule. Feel free to show us all how it's done. If you can come through on that, then I think it's safe to say we'll all sing your praises until the end of time. It takes as long as it takes. That's just how it is.

Well, in my language there are three words for soon, and none of them can be defined. The one means soon, the other means a little later than soon, and the other one means even later. But no-one can actually define when the first one is, making the other two undefinable as well. Maybe they meant the third word, but English just doesn't differentiate. Blame English, not Curious Labs/E-Frontier.

LDLD got it right in his first post, it'll be ready when it's ready. Remember the great big fuss over getting Poser5 ASAP? yeah now remember what a mess it was when they did release it early.

I rather they not rush and catch everything. I heard they caught a few last minute issues.

SR 1: THE LICORIZED UPDATE

I think they skip SR1 and will release SR2 "soon" ;) Greets Chris

"I think they skip SR1 and will release SR2 "soon"" ROFLMAO

Couldn't wait for EF to release SR-1, so... I went out and bought one. Zink Paralyzer SR-1 Goose Calls. With the bell-shaped barrel, you can make everything from the most aggressive double-clucking routines to the low-pitched feeding thrums that convince geese to come down and take a look. Each has handsome looks and incredibly realistic tones. Includes a detailed 75-minute instructional video. Available: Black Acrylic, Coke Bottle Acrylic, Cocobolo, Birds Eye Maple. WOW..! It takes a 75 minute video to learn to blow something..???! BE PATIENT, you silly gooses.. err... geeses.. duck things!

Don't mis-understand . Have them take all the time they need to make sure the service pack is right. Just don't say SOON. When ya say SOON. IT should be SOON. See the definiation in post 1.. Say SP1 Coming, Say SP1 in Development, Say SP1 in Testing

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Just don't say SOON. When ya say SOON. IT should be SOON. It will be soon.

Attached Link: http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1997/38/astrofile/

"In a few thousand years, as these last outer layers are stripped off, much hotter inner layers of the star become exposed. **Soon** only the bare carbon- oxygen core is left." (Emph. added)

It all depends what time scale you use. :-)

perhaps they didn't get in on the old customer service adage, "Under promise, over deliver." Or maybe they got it backwards, "Under deliver, over promise." :-)

ITS HERE DOWNLOADING NOW!!!!!!!

You can't get much SOONER than that. Yippeee...!

OK-- Review I went to render an scene that each time in the past (on final settings) Died. Well It did again. BUT, BUT. Poser gave me a new dialogue box that made suggestions (i.e. change bucket size, turn of texture filter, ect.) Then AND THIS IS THE COOLEST PART. it returned me to poser let me change the settings and Render. NO MORE CTL-ALT-DELETE. just reset and go. THANK YOU POSER PROGRAMMING GODS!!1