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Poser - OFFICIAL F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2024 Dec 22 10:18 pm)
That's exactly it. I did an experiment on one of my figure's messed up right shoulders. I replaced the blank group line with a line that added the geom to a distinct group ie g f 324/223 345/45 345/67 with g blah f 324/223 345/45 345/67 This WORKED and eliminated the dropped polygons. This is DEFINITLY what is causing the missing geometry for grouped objects.
I've found a solution. I did search and replace and replaced all lines that are: g with g blah in the custom geometry lines. This fixed the missing triangle problem. The figure works great now with no missing geometry. Basically you need to eliminate any lines in your cr2 that specify a group to the default group (no group name). I did this experiment on a fresh cr2 from poser 4,03 and it worked fine. It also saved and loaded fine allowing it to create the obj file. I've notified CL and hope they put out a patch for this. In the mean time you can salvage your cr2 files by doing this simple search and replace. I may write a small exe that can do this for you on the fly as well.
And I think this is why we need an area where the pro pack is addressed. You and I know that the threads slip by, all mixed up in other items, and if you don't check constantly you might miss something. I still vote for an area that addresses the pro pack so we can follow this thing. I can't find a bug report area anywhere at CL, sent an email to tech support there and was sent a reply stating they had kicked it on to QA. Still haven't heard a word. I would imagine the beta testers were recruited from this group of users, among others. I cannot believe that someone like myself has done something to bring out "hidden" problems, something the beta testers didn't have happen to them. Come on people!!! I just loaded the program and pulled in a regular Poser character! You can't tell me this didn't happen to the beta testers, which means they kicked out a defective product knowing this would happen. I at LEAST expect the company to acknowledge that they did this and not expect us to act like sheep and say, "oh, they've been good to us so we'll just accept the fact that every program has bugs and we can wait a few months for them to iron it out". It's not like I'm addressing the python issue, I'm addressing an issue that any person would come up against. I still use the male and female characters in some of my work, so I expect to be able to use them. I'm not even complaining aabout a morphed out character that I downloaded or bought, I'm talking about Poser characters that come with the program that you would expect to work!!! What's going to happen if I start using my Lightwave stuff? Sorry to rant but this is not acceptable for me to hunt through the threads to find an answer or to see if it's even being addressed!! If you want us to beta test it then give us some credit! Marque
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Joe's solution was to delete the unnamed "g" statements: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=224794Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=10139&Form.ShowMessage=224451&Reply=228186#37
Someone posted a solution for the hip problem too: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=10139&Form.ShowMessage=224451&Reply=228186#37This site uses cookies to deliver the best experience. Our own cookies make user accounts and other features possible. Third-party cookies are used to display relevant ads and to analyze how Renderosity is used. By using our site, you acknowledge that you have read and understood our Terms of Service, including our Cookie Policy and our Privacy Policy.
After spending a few hours playing with PPP trying to solve the missing triangle problem with groupings I found out something interesting. I was able to get PPP to save a cr2 WITHOUT it making an obj. I think I selected a parented set of clothes instead of the main figure then saved the whole figure. Anyway, I examined the cr2 and found the following: usemtl armbandright g m_rshould f 172/250 376/66 171/251 f 383/15 384/13 202/14 instead of usemtl armbandright g m_rshould f 172/250 376/66 171/251 f 383/15 384/13 202/14 Basically the first faces entry ends up on the same line as the group command. This would indeed cause the first face to be skipped. I tried bringing the face line down to the next line and reload only to get the same result upon saving and loading. My conclusion so far is PPP screws up the group line and concatinates the first face line, skipping its inclusion in the geometry data when the cr2 is read in. This would account for the missing faces. This corrupt data is then used to create the new obj file upon saving. Basically it appears to be a loader problem. Some how the loader must concatinate these two lines when parsing the cr2 and so the first face in each group entry is skipped. I'm guessing at this but, when I cut the messed up group data out and create an obj file from it using a text editor then view it in max I get exactly what I see in poser with the same triangles missing. Adding a carriage return to the correct lines then loading the obj created a perfect part with no flaws. I'm contacting CL about this as well. If they can't fix it I'm hoping I can come up with an exe that can pass thru the cr2 and do something to adjust for this.