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Subject: EUREEKA..!


ziggie ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 10:53 AM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 4:14 PM

I was sitting here playing with Poser (as usual) when an apple fell on my head..! When I came round... I found I had discovered the secret of Poser gravity (well... sort of). I have found a way to give a figure 'weight' so that when it comes into contact with a surface... the surface reacts to the weight of the figure. Only the parts of the figure that contact the surface effect the surface. In the following pics... only the poses of the figure were altered. It still needs a lot of work and fine tuning, but... it definately works in principle. :-) ziggie

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ziggie ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 10:57 AM

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yelocloud ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 11:21 AM

Well please keep us posted on the how behind this once you work out the kinks. Veeery Interesting ;-)


dlk30341 ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 11:27 AM

Very cool. XLT work :)


blaufeld ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 11:31 AM

Me want! Me want!!! :D


Kristta ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 12:01 PM

please please please do a tutorial.......


Bobbie25 ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 12:22 PM

o now wow i would love to see a tut as well

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nikitanights ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 12:22 PM

That's really cool! Keep us posted on how this works out for you... =0)


randym77 ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 12:25 PM

Wow! How'd you do it?

And does it work the other way? Can you deform a butt that's perched on a hard bench, say?


momodot ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 12:27 PM

Tooo Cool! But how?



Irish ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 12:33 PM

This has all kinds of possibilities!! Wow!! Look forward to further developments Ziggie and thanks for sharing! :)


Dizzi ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 12:41 PM

Is it easier/faster than ockhams Eureka script?



jjsemp ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 12:45 PM

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Um....didn't Ockham already invent this with a free Python script ironically titled....Eureka! His script has been long available here in Freestuff. I'm curious to know how your method is different? -jjsemp


FishNose ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:14 PM

Looks extremely cool! :] Fish


Adavyss ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:23 PM

Really interesting effect. I'm curious


ziggie ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:25 PM

Oh dear :-( I have never seen that script by Ockham before, so... I have no idea how it works or what it does. My particular method didn't involve Python. But now I know there is a script out already, I shall shelve my project. Sorry if I got people excited over nothing. Hangs head in shame.

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Bobasaur ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:29 PM

Don't quit working on your method yet. Too many of the scripts require certain Python calls that don't work on Macs. This may be an alternative. Also, this might prove to be more effective in certain circumstances - you never know.

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nakamuram ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:34 PM

Ziggie, The more methods, the better. Please tell us yours....


SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:36 PM

Noooo - don't shelve it! C'mon, Zig, share the secret, pretty please.

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Dizzi ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:42 PM

The script may run hours depending on what you set to colide against what... So, it's not really the solution to everything ,-)



EdW ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:44 PM

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This is the easiest way that I've found. It's simply magnets


ziggie ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 1:46 PM

mmmm... I have just downloaded Ockham's Eureka script and... I hope he dosn't mind me quoting from his read me which says: "5. Wait. The timing depends on degree of contact and density of mesh. For Posette sitting on a simple pillow, using Left Thigh, Right Thigh, and Hip, the deformation takes about 15 seconds. But her Head on the same pillow takes 10 minutes! Smoothing also adds a considerable amount of time." Well, my method works in real time. That is... as you move the body parts and or pose the figure... any parts coming into contact with the surface effect the surface. Example: If a figure is sitting on the surface with outstretched legs, the indentation appears in the surface. Then... if you move one or both legs sidewards the indentation follows the leg... in real time. Raises head slightly.

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Qualien ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 2:03 PM

DON'T READ THIS
I'm only posting so that if and when the answer is made known, I will get an email telling me that my post has been replied to - because I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

So there are different means to an end. So what?


UrbanChilli ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 2:27 PM

Pretty cool. I like the idea that it works on figuers as well!


UrbanChilli ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 2:28 PM

Pretty cool. I like the idea that it works on figuers as well!


Irish ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 2:51 PM

Bookmark!


SoulTaker ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:06 PM

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jjsemp ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:27 PM

Hey ziggie, Don't go away. I was just curious how yours was different. Also, it is funny that you both used the word "eureka" associated with your new discoveries. Great minds thinking alike? Keep us posted and keep working on it. It sound great. -jjsemp


leather-guy ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:27 PM

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JVRenderer ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:28 PM

Nice work Ziggie. I better bookmark this thread as well. :o)





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xantor ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:28 PM

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lesbentley ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:28 PM · edited Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:30 PM

Ziggie, we are all dying of curiosity. The images you posted hold great promise. Please don't shelve your project. ~bookmark

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AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:31 PM

Which version of Poser are you using for this effect? I know there are new features in P6, and I'm still using P5. Some people still use P4.


Don ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:52 PM

WOW!!!


richardson ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 3:54 PM

Lil Dragon had something similar with (I'm guessing)magnets attached to mattress but parented to body parts. Interesting. Especially if you have a new or refined technique.


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ziggie ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 4:12 PM

'richardson' got it :-) Multiple magnets created for the mattress... then parented to the body parts. That way the magnets stay attached to the body parts, but don't effect the body parts... only the mattress. Therefore... as the magnetized body part comes in range of the mattress it creates the indentation. I am currently magnetizing a figure from head to toe... with good results. The good thing is that when you save the figure... it also save the magnets with the figure. You can then reload the figure and use as normal. The magnets only come into operation when the mattress is also loaded into the scene.

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EdW ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 4:22 PM

That's exactly what I've done in my little animation up above. There are 2 magnets with the mag zones parented to the feet of the figure.


freyfaxi ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 4:28 PM

Book marked "On hearing the basic explanation..I hope it'll work in poor old P4 ?


Bobasaur ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 4:30 PM

Very cool idea!

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dlk30341 ( ) posted Mon, 13 June 2005 at 4:38 PM

XLT work! Looking forward to a tut ;) BRAVO! Now get back to work LOL...j/k ;P


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