Is there anything that rises Renda above V3 or S3 to make it a worth while purchase? for instance knee bending and shoulder movement? as these are not nice on V3 or S3 (s3 being slightly better) What makes Renda a better character than V3 or S3?

She almost looks like a cross between V3 and SP3. Would be nice to see a totally different looking char. Marque

Same shoulder & arm problems I see.

The Renda that I got: Legs, at the hip, need a fix for joint parameters. As they are, they simply do not work. Shoulders bend better than V3 or S3. The UV mapping is questionable, and will ultimately cause you to use more memory and detail is in all the wrong places, unless you really need a good looking tooth. It's a lower res figure than V3/Unimesh My overall opinion is that Renda is a step backwards in figure development. There's just not enough there to convince me to step backwards from a unimesh model. In this forum we have often discussed what we would like to see in a new model, and it would seem that most of the ideas were discarded if they were considered at all. -WTB

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The joints are SEVERELY screwed up, the PTB know it, and they released it anyway. It's basically useless as is, you'll be throwing your money away. DON'T BUY IT UNTIL THEY FIX IT.

Just posting to keep an eye on this thread.

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Oh, and to answer the original question, Renda is not better than V3 or S3 in any way. She's different (if you like big butts, you'll like Renda;), and she's lower poly (which could be an improvement to some, loading two Rendas won't make your computer scream for mercy), but she's not "better" in any way. It's just Rendo trying to jump on the bandwagon of having their own figure (see also: Alexa, Laroo, etc.). When they fix her, she might be okay if you want another female figure, but that's all. I'm not knocking her, I'm just saying she's nothing special. But until they fix her, she's worthless crap.

this should be interesting...

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Umm... no, just a bookmark. (as /me nearly bites his tongue in half...) /P

hmmm now i wasn't expecting that kind of response, well at least i saved some cash...lol

transfer S3 or V3 Joint Corrective Morph Targets to Renda and see what happen. (for those lucky ones who own V3 or S3)

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Wow, worthless crap?? that's a bit harsh and uncalled for. The shoulders and arms are much nicer than the mil figures. Just playing with them a little bit, they bend a lot better it seems, and you don't get that rubber band or elbow macaroni look like the mil figs have. But, anybody that denies or tries to downplay the fact that the hips/buttocks need working is being less than honest. I've heard mention that its just a matter of joint tweaking that anybody could do. I'd like to hear how so I could do it, because personally I feel that Renda could give vicky and steph some serious competition, once the various bugs have been dealt with. She needs more facial morphs than what is offered tho. Just my two cents... E.D.

Anyone know if this new product is descended from either the Zygote or Sixus P:H meshes, or was it built from scratch? /P

Smart marketing move to make her free for all Renderosity vendors. I'm sure it'll create more hype, or certainly more items for sale in the store.

It'll be interesting to see where this has gone when I get back in a week. I'm always interested in a new female character. Not necessarily interested enough to buy one -- V3 and S3 pretty much cover things by themselves. But Renda will be worth a look.

It's supposed to be an original mesh Peng

Hi Penguinisto.. "Anyone know if this new product is descended from either the Zygote or Sixus P:H meshes, or was it built from scratch?" Not at all. She is a 100% original mesh. Clint

Better arms and shoulders sounds good to me. V3 isn't always easy to pose well in any sort of "reaching/stretching" or "arms over head" poses.

Hmmm. So "Renda" is actually made by Renderosity???

Well, perhaps could be better if the free download was offered about 10-15 days before putting it on sale, so the development team had time to correct and modify Renda following the merchants complaints and/or suggestions :)

So what you're saying is: Renda won't benda? -jjsemp

IMHO..based on the promo shots the arms/shoulder area look worse than the V's. The arms stretched upwards appear to be coming out of the sockets. There are too many bulges in the wrong areas, in addition the arm bends look as bad the leg bends shown above, as well as the bowling shoulders still remain. Of course all my opinion. I'll wait for a more innovative woman to appear before buying another female model....ie a female model by Anton or maybe V3Pro will correct the spagetti arm issue and bowling ball shoulders. Then again maybe they will correct all the above issues & this model will become of some value to me,as of right now this models needs LOTS of work.

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What really pisses me off is that we merchants told them all this yesterday when we first got our hands on her, they could have easily pushed back the release until she was fixed, and they decided to go right ahead and try to swindle people today anyway.

Sell it now, make it actually work later. It's getting to be the motto of the Poserverse and I for one am getting really fed up with it.

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Sorry, last post edited massive typos. And I forgot to wave the nudity flag. :/

Here is the question: If she's not better than V3 (and V3 is free), why would anybody in his/her right mind buy Renda?

If she's not better than V3 (and V3 is free), why would anybody in his/her right mind buy Renda?

Ummm...for the same reason Hugh Grant stepped out on his supermodel girlfriend, Liz Hurley, with a $50 hooker? Variety, y'know. ;-)

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ClintH:"She is a 100% original mesh." 'kay - my thanks for such a quick response to that. /P

You are right x2000. In fact, the pics of her hip bends you posted here look better than what I get when I bend them. On my end they look like a shark took a big chunk out. Not to mention the strange protrusion that happens in back between her cheaks. Not sure what's going on there... And, I might add, I was one of the (many) merchants yesterday pleading with the powers that be to not release her today until those bend errors can be dealt with and corrected. We see how far that went. I was just trying to shed a possitive view on her by stating that she does have potential and tho her release is rather obviously premature, with a little work she could be a very good model. She's not worthless crap. And regardless of the flaws, there are still several out there who I'm sure are going to buy her now, because there's always those who want to be the first to have the new stuff just because it's new. E.D.

I believe there is a fix in the works from what I've read. The included clothing (at least I think it's included in the marketplace package) cuts into the figure on posing so I hope that will be fixed as well.

It's too early to form a definite opinion yet. I think she's a good start. Because of, and regardless of, the clothing issue, the only thing I'll do for her for now until she's fixed completely will be textures for the bikini and those will be free.

It's the inner and outer mat spheres for the buttocks and thigh joints that need to be adjusted. The centers seem to be ok, just the falloff zones ED

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Can you just IMAGINE what would have happened if Daz had tried to sell V3 with legs bending like that?!