to my eye.. i luv the mix! it's an excellent compromise! :]

Thank you Cindy. #:O) That was my personal favorite too....before i started thinking too much, LOL. I think the highlights look best in that one, better balanced than the others.

I really like the mix too but....I definitely prefer the B&W!! Awesome shot Andreas!! U nailed it! :D

So far youre all with me on trashing the colored one...yeah, i never liked the original all that much. Thank you so much Pascale.

edit...we crossed messages Richard and i shall now withdraw my first statement...obviously not all dislike the colored one, LOL. Thats a really nice compromise. You brought out the autumn in it.

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uhhh.. now with Richard's.. i may need to change my mind too :]

...hmmmm

Whats up Andreas - you now got a glum looking smiley ?

I stick with the B&W!! I think it's more classy, definitely!

definitely the B&W for me, Andreas!!! VERY classy as Pascale said and i just find it way more appealing! i like how the white water contrasts with the dark black rocks. the highlights aren't bothering me. could fix them a bit i think. i'd try but i gotta lie down. kemal and i are sick...fever...upper respiratory infections. i like what Richard did! very nice. i like your last one too. i still like the b/w better though! :) very nice capture!

It is good Andreas but by doing it that way you don't get the full range of colours in the rocks. I think it is a lovely shot but for me the combination of textures and tones in the rocks combining with the grasses is what makes it. If I postworking it more I would probaly try to get a bit more texture and warmth into the grasses. My sugestion is if you want to go with the colour version is you balance the colour first, then do any adjustments to saturation or tinting you want. I balanced the colour with levels. It is common to get a blueish cast with this type of shot especially if you use a polarising filter which tends to cool colours as well.

LOL, i hear ya Pascale. Thank you Sheila...now go get yourself into bed and heal yourself. #:O)....LOL, we crossed again Richard. I agree with what youre saying....starting to think im trying to hard with this one. As soon as snatched it from the MemoryCard, i thought that it would look cool as B&W...maybe i shall stick to my first intentions huh. Thanks alot gang, youve been amazing once again. #:O)

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Pleasure as usual sweet Swedish! ;)

Yep go with b/w or go with colour it will still be a good shot :)

Sorry me friend Andreas..I have to go with Richards....Either that or the B&W. He is right...you lose the texture and tones in the rocks.It just seems natural. But no matter...you have to please you. Also...I wanna know what settings you pees use when capturing the water this way. Be easier to read it than me going out and trying it and muffing it up.

Andreas l looked at these last night.. but felt to tired to comment properly.. the perspective of the shots fantastic.. lay out, l love the colour version but like Richard dont like the blue.. to much blue in landscape if the conditions monotonic really creates even more flatness...theres no life in the grasses and no details in the rocks... but the shutter speed and actually fall.. is perfect timing. Richard's has created and highlighted the details and added a goldeness .. even little details within the grass as well as the rocks...its also brought out some red autumn leaf.. the small fine details and really brought sharpness..even down to the mosses, annd yellow fungi stuff dont know the name on the stones, plus if you look to where the water falls behind the water.. richards version has brought out detail of the rock wall... its a beautiful perspective shot Andreas.. but on this prefer Richards version...Sorry being honest:))))))... nikki

I am more than happy to tell you what I did Andreas.

In Photoshop:
Firstly I clicked Auto Levels because that usually sorts out any colour imbalances - clicked OK.
I was not entirely happy it had done a great job so I then opened Levels. I took the center eye dropper, for a grey point, and I looked for a place to click on that I thought should be a neutral mid grey colour. I settled on a spot roughly where the red dot is in the image.

Thats it - nothing magical.

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Thank you Richard....now will you be so kind to tell me how you get that incredible look on your own photos...you know of what i speak...or do i need to beg further.

LMAO I'll be running workshops for a small fee ;)

Well, I think you have had all the help you can get on this. Great advice, too. I can't really decide which I like. I like the b/w one, but I'm such a big fan of colors. The kind of thing Richard did is great, too. So, I am being NO help! LOL I know whatever you do with it will be beautiful. :) That water is excellent, by the way.

Nice work Pascale!!!! Sitting here at work, on that screen, makes the highlights become even more visible...so i definitly prefer your version....hmmmm....maybe i should just auction out my shots to those that can really bring out the best in them, LOL. #:oP

Looks like we crossed messages....thank you Danielle. #:O)