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Subject: Texturing Lessons


sweetpickle07 ( ) posted Tue, 14 February 2006 at 1:15 PM · edited Sun, 09 February 2025 at 12:13 AM

I am new to posting in the Form so please forgive me if I am doing this wrong. I have emailed Renderosity Administrators in regards to Renderosity hosing Texturing Lessons for Characters and Clothing. They adivised me would keep in mind and also asked that I post it in the Forum. Would any experienced merchants/vendors be interested in getting together with Renderosity and doing this. I know there are groups and all kinds of tutorials around but kind of hard for some to follow. Just throught if some lessons from beginning texturing to putting it up for sale at the store would interest anyone. I have been in contact with SndCastie (one of the Administrator) so if interested please contact her ok. I wouldn't have any idea how to set it up. I am just posting as she suggested in the hope some people would be interested. Thank you and please think about it.


AgentSmith ( ) posted Tue, 14 February 2006 at 1:56 PM

Out of curiosity; In what format do you want to create the tutorials? Meaning, in the stereotypical page by page html, or a downloadable pdf? Or, video? AS

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sweetpickle07 ( ) posted Tue, 14 February 2006 at 2:39 PM

I can't create tutorials I was just posting to see if any interested. If asking my preference, which ever works best for whoever would like to participate. I never throught of a video though. Maybe html or pdf and a matching vido. Just a thought. ;o)


BDC ( ) posted Tue, 14 February 2006 at 6:23 PM

That is a neat idea, I am sure it would save some others alot of time as they wouldn't have to learn from scratch through trial and error the way I am/did. LOL

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Acadia ( ) posted Tue, 14 February 2006 at 9:25 PM

Attached Link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/texturemakers/

Nouschka has a texturing tutorial in her store Plus Helen has a whole forum at Poser Pros on Teturing. There are lots of tutorials and help at this Yahoo group, which was set up by Poser members:

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Acadia ( ) posted Tue, 14 February 2006 at 9:30 PM

Attached Link: http://www.aerysoul.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=485

AsShanim also has a tutorial at his site which is very well done and gives lots of helpful tips. I'm working on my very first texture now and have picked up tips from each of those places.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



sweetpickle07 ( ) posted Wed, 15 February 2006 at 5:25 AM

Thank you for the links, I have checked them out. They seem great only thing is from what I can see (could be wrong) they don't tell you how to use the material room and to package them up to sell. That is my problem. I can't get my outfit to look right in Poser when I click on the little icon to apply it. And I haven't a clue about Cr2's and rsr files. Or how to make Poses etc. I hope that makes sense. ;o) And then the whole process of packaging it up to sell. Also with groups there are so many emails. Just thought it might be a good idea for Renderosity to do this. Could generate so many more sales for them if more people could do it. Again just a thought.


AgentSmith ( ) posted Wed, 15 February 2006 at 5:50 AM

The real trick might be in convincing a Merchant to give up all their clever knowledge...which could create competition for themselves, lol. (j/k)!

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sweetpickle07 ( ) posted Wed, 15 February 2006 at 5:52 AM

I need to apologize, AsShanim does have the material room, that is a Big plus to me. ;o) Still working on my first cup of coffee this morning so not too wide awake yet. Guess I should finish that before I post any messages huh?


spinner ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 6:16 PM

ok, so you basically want a quick tutorial which shows you how you can set something up for sale ? ~s


sweetpickle07 ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 6:26 PM

Oh yes, that would be great from starting with making the textures all the way to putting it up for sale. I so would love this so much. I really want to learn it and would be very very greatful.


AgentSmith ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 7:23 PM

spinner, your html has scrambled this page a bit. I'll try deleting your post, and re-posting your info, see if that snaps the page back. AgentSmith

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 7:25 PM

originally posted by spinner

 

Please excuse me, but may I ask you why you want to be a merchant when you know so little of your potential trade ?

If you want to learn, there are quite a lot of good tutorial sites out there, in addition to the Renderosity tutorials.

DAZ Tutorial Arcana
RDNA
PoserPros
General 3D tutorials about composition and lighting

Try a few of those in addition to the;

 

Poser 6 Product Information

 

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 7:26 PM

Nope, still scrambled. AS

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spinner ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 7:28 PM

I could repost ? Or ? ~s


AgentSmith ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 7:50 PM

Nah, the post in question, although flagged as "deleted", is actually still here and scrambling the page. I put up a request to the Renderosity's site programmers, see if they can clean it up. No worries. :o) AS

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spinner ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 7:53 PM

ok, so let me get this straight, AS - I post a few normal HTML a href="www.soand.so.com" tags and the thread goes boom ! ? heh. ~s


AgentSmith ( ) posted Mon, 20 February 2006 at 8:11 PM

Yeah, sometimes it just goes nuts. Has happened to me too, lol. AS

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sweetpickle07 ( ) posted Tue, 21 February 2006 at 8:04 AM

Spinner, I don't know how you could possibly know how much or how little I know, you must be a mind reader. Don't we all have to start learning somewhere or where you born brilliant? I must say your reply did hurt my feelings.


spinner ( ) posted Tue, 21 February 2006 at 8:16 AM

And I quoth: "That is my problem. I can't get my outfit to look right in Poser when I click on the little icon to apply it. And I haven't a clue about Cr2's and rsr files. Or how to make Poses etc." Obviously, I am a mindreader. And yes, we have to start somewhere - which is why I gave you links to tutorials instead of a blow by blow of how to sell a product. How can you make a good Poser product if you haven't spent time on learning and want to go straight into sales ? Because that IS what you asked for. ~s


Acadia ( ) posted Tue, 21 February 2006 at 12:34 PM · edited Tue, 21 February 2006 at 12:42 PM

I've been trying my hand at texturing. I've been working on a texture for the Morphing Fantasy Dress, and I tell you... it's freaking tedious!!!!!!! I don't know how people do that sort of thing for a living.

I've grown quickly bored of that one texture. Mapping out the pattern, picking a co-ordinating materials, making trims and lace, trans maps, bump maps, Mat Pose Edit, and not to mention the million and one renders to see what it looks like from all angles.

Now granted this is my first try at texturing so it's a learning experience so it's probably taking me much longer than it would someone who has done it for awhile. However, it's still tedious and I lack patience for things that tedious. So poser merchants have no need to worry about competition from me. LOL I seriously doubt that even if I got good at it that I'd bother selling anything. Way too much effort for too little return. I'll stick to making bath products and gift baskets as a sideline job :)

Texturing is nice to know for when you're in a pinch and can't find what you're looking for, but I'll stick to buying from those who have the patience to do that sort of thing.

I loved laying out the pattern but when it came down to texturing and applying trim etc... I just had no interest in that. Designing the pattern was fun though!!!! :) EDIT: And I agree that it's important to know the program before you start trying to sell things. For texturing it's not enough to just know how to use your brushes in a graphic program. You need to know the material room and about trans maps and bump maps and how they work because the addition of a simple bump map can change the entire look of an outfit. It's the difference between looking like a sheet of wrapping paper and a piece of textured fabric. I'd suggest working on making things for your free area for awhile. It's not as easy as you think and it's not something you can just suddenly decide to do. There is a learning curve involved that requires more than just experience in a graphic program....as I discovered.

Message edited on: 02/21/2006 12:42

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Tue, 21 February 2006 at 12:42 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/index.ez?viewLink=305#4

*Ahem*......*I* was born brilliant :D ~heh,heh~ Seriously tho...altho Im still learning about texturing, here is a link to the product submission guidelines..lets you know what all needs to be included in files uploaded, so it might help you understand how to package it all up when you are ready :)

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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Acadia ( ) posted Tue, 21 February 2006 at 12:44 PM · edited Tue, 21 February 2006 at 12:45 PM

There isn't anything to packaging.

Mat Pose Edit.

Organize things according to how they will be in your runtime.

Include a Readme file

Zip

If someone needs help figuring out where their poser files go in a runtime, then that's a clue that they really need to spend more time learning Poser. File location is basic stuff.

Message edited on: 02/21/2006 12:45

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Tue, 21 February 2006 at 12:56 PM

** There isn't anything to packaging.** Maybe not to someone who has done it before..but to a total newb at it, it can be confusing. Im sure Sweet just wants to learn about everything right now, not that she is going to upload something right away.

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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sweetpickle07 ( ) posted Tue, 21 February 2006 at 3:06 PM

Thank you jumpstartme2, you have a kind heart and you do understand that all I wanted to do was learn.


Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Wed, 22 February 2006 at 3:06 AM

Not a problem Sweet..you just keep on asking questions, and learn all you can..after all..if you don't ask, how 'can' you learn something new? ;)

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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Acadia ( ) posted Wed, 22 February 2006 at 5:26 AM

Quote - if you don't ask, how 'can' you learn something new? ;)

So true!

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



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