There have been many threads about Poser rigging and mesh and why this problem is so persistent.

Well, I've found a treasure right under my nose....a standard figure available to the Poser community that, with the spin of two dials in the included morph list, results in problem solved. His shoulder/arm configuration is very close to a realistic (not bulked-up) human male. (bent drinking-straw inner elbow not solved, however)

I am very happy. I've found the leading man for my big project.

No magnets, re-rigging, faceroom or add-on morph packages were used on this image. No postwork. Hair by 3Dream, skin is the default texture of the model kicked up by one of face_off's shader packages. I spent an hour or two spinning the default morphs to turn the body, face and head into a unique character.

Please feel free to guess the base figure in this image.

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gobsmacked! He's hunkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey. James is cool, but even he's not as cool as your creation - izzit him, or not (whispers) Dork??????

second thought - Jessie !!!!!!

Poser 1 Adam?

It's Alphaman!!!!!! Don maybe??

Looks like Jessie to me!

That's definitely Apollo Maximus.

Jessi

Apollo Max

I'd say Apollo as well, but there's something about the ears that more reminds me of James. The face, however, is not James-y at all, and neither is the arms. So my bet is Apollo.

TheGirl? :P

I was going to guess David, but he's not standard, and his morphs are add-on. Apollo isn't standard either. so if he's available to all poser users, its gotta be dork, don, or james... what's the spikey things on his neck about anyway?

I was going to guess David, but he's not standard, and his morphs are add-on. Apollo isn't standard either. so if he's available to all poser users, its gotta be dork, don, or james... what's the spikey things on his neck about anyway?

Alan Alda?

Meanwhile, I'm rendering a short animation of my cool new character with the fine shoulders and arms! I'll post it tomorrow, and I'll post the answer to the model and the settings in the morning.

I did use the word "standard", but that does not mean 'came with Poser.' I just meant it was not fresh mesh unavailable to all. Let's just say this is either a Poser-issued figure, or a well-known figure for sale at Rendo, Daz, RDNA, Content Paradise, etc.

Thanks for all the responses, check back in 8 hours or so.

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Well, "available" means IMO that it's a character everybody CAN get. That it's not a custom built one. If you've got Poser 4 only you can't say that James and Don are standard either, since they're not included. I'm wondering a bit about the spikes as well, they seem to indicate that we're fealing with a fairly low rez character... Hmm... but the face and the ear again says otherwise. Dork's ear is much more blocky usually. Not that it can't be fixed but judging from the ear, there's no way this is a stock Poser figure. Except perhaps for James. But the upper arms... aren't James'

Apollo maximus

ah crossposted. The nipples scream Apollo to me LOL! The poor guy always looks like he's in a freezer...

V3???

"V3???" Hmmm... V3 Male. Could be. I still think Apollo because of the poor muscle tone, which is the default ApMax look.

Hiro??

Woody? ;)

well those are Max's sadly underdeveloped always erect nipples OR it's vicky on a bad "BOOB" day..the elbows look odd and what's going on in post #1 with the trapezius and neck area? Not being mean, just frustrated, we need a new male figure with good muscle definition(turn off with a turn of a dial), and better elbows and shoulders. Keep plugging away at it maybe you're onto something.

Ok, the hands give him away for me. I'm gonna say Apollo now because of the hands. they're too small compaired to the rest of him, which is the biggest turn-off about him imo.

Er.. You can scale almost any body part of Apollo - including the hands - with just one dial. So if you think his hands are too small... just make'em bigger

Also, AM has a few morphs to shift the armpit crease. Forget where or what it's called. Clever, though.

I think it's Apollo Max.

YES Richardson we want that FBM :)

Apollo Max

richardson I thought that was a photo at first. Yes yes yes we realy do want that. :D

Stephanie! Not sure 1 or 3 but I'll go for 3 :)

Alan Alda? (sorry, no one's said it yet..;)

Hehe Pakled.. you need new glasses. lmckenzie guessed that in post #14 ;o)

Goond morning folks, and yes I am please to say Apollo Maximus. Thank you Anton! All of you who found faults with this nip and that tuck, etc., no problem...keep 'em coming especially if you have a remedy and remember, this is after only 2 hours of playing with him, and especially after two hours when the ONLY thing I really cared about is the correction of the stinkin' Poser shoulder pads and inward-curving upper arm! dirk5027, I DO think I am on to something, at least for myself but I'll share for any who care. I'm going to take all the above problems and see what can be done. For one thing, this body texture has virtually no hair. Second, no offense Anton, but the texture itself is not the greatest, but a good start. And my killer ultimate ace-in-the-hole, personally? For my needs, he does not need to be nude very often! I just need a male model that when wearing a shirt or sweater looks like an acutal human being and not an android project by the 8th grade science class in a hurry. Anyone interested in getting Apollo down the path to more-or-less normal shoulders and upper arms, start this way from the defaul: -0.140 body muscles1 -2.500 body define This takes away Apollo's shoulder caps and hero muscles, and yes he looks like he has bad muscle tone. For me, this is not serious because I need him for scenes where he plays a healthy but not bulked person. Plus, I will be tweaking to build back a more shapely figure without disturbing the nice shoulders and upper arms. For me, the next dial to fool with is: -1.000 SizeShldrs Some may actually want to spin UP this setting. Anyway, that gets you started. If you need a muscular hero to sweep that damned Vickie off her feet (or defend himself from her wrathful sword), then hey, Apollo might still be your guy, without the back-down. I still like James and EJ-withMaleMorphs, and will continue to use them. I'll post some shots with his shirt on later today, and an animation. Thanks to everyone posting, and continue if you please with any tips on AM. And thank you, Anton. ::::: Opera :::::

Here's an animation.

This is simply a demonstration of the arm and shoulder issue, I threw it together before going to sleep last night and let it run, it's not a finished work or anything, so please no heavy dings on the animation itself, thanks.

Right-click here to download, 1.2 MB Quicktime.

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don't have AM so didn't guess right ;-) well done though

I've said it before that imho Apollo is the best usable male character out there. By that I mean the most economical and the easiest to deform and work with. Anton did a wonderful job on him! -jay

Dang. I just saw this thread and was going to guess "Renda", hehe I remembe everyone complaining about joints.

Cool. Glad you are having fun with him. The more people play, they more they like. Thanks for the support.

nah..just skimmin' too fast..;) I meant to say Hot Lips..;)

lol

He does resemble Frank Burns from Broke Back Mountain - the Korea years. "Klinger, I wish I could quit you!"

Uhm, I guess I missed it, but why isn't Apollo available for sale at RDNA anymore? Is he available at all? ~E.D.

wasnt sure if it was AM.. but it had a certain anton-style about the face. Something all his male characters share, all the way back to v2M (not that its bad mind you) I know that Anton went through a lot of trouble getting AM's shoulder to work right .. I saw dozens of different rigs and comparison renders while he was working on it :) Good to see all his hard work is appreciated! as for where to get AM.. I believe that Anton announcd in the apollo forum that AM will be moving over to CP entirely.

that's an extreme pose, very difficult to have look authentic. I think the deformation around the collars looks terrif. Also, the under-jaw.

cool. i'm probably going to go ahead and buy him then. i have seen some really nice examples of him in various galleries and have debated it back and forth since his release. ~E.D.

Well I've inquired and as far as I have been told not one copied has been returned in over 1000 copies sold. SO that must be a good thing.

And remember with apollo you get alot of variety without needing 800+ peices of ridiculous,tedious ,cumbersome INJ/REM/CHAN/VIS/DELTA runtime bloatware.

Apollo is the ultimate character. ;)