Something for the R'osity design team I'd say. I Have a complaint (don't even try the doctor joke) about my king-size cache. Not only that, I think it's quite a serious one really. You see, I've just noticed that my cache is like 1000 times the avarage size it used to be when I used to surf the old style forums. Now, before anyone turns round and says you've messed-up your cache settings - I can tell you now, I haven't touched them. All I know, is that my cache is doing overtime; :ohmy: -Which means that R'osity is doing overtime in serving it to my PC? -Which means that R'osity is doing this to every member? -Which means that R'osity is getting bogged down? -Which means that R'osity is not as efficient as they think? Seriously, it's not a problem at my end - I'd say this needs looking into. Len.

Not sure, but I think that has something to do with all those "cute" little yellow stars etc... Cheers, Diolma

Don't know which browser you're using,.........but I'm using Mozilla Firefox and I empty the cache and history every hour or so,.........seems to keep things speedier. Just a thought.

I guess I do like Sackrat does.... I empty my cache every day for the same purpose.... keeps things moving quicker.

@ Swade What's with the picture link to Yahoo! ??? Not sure I like this feature (not that above is malicious) but no discernment that it isn't simply a link to an enlarged image. And could be used to fool a moron like me into an unwanted site.

If you empty your cache, by rights, you would actually slow things down. That's what it's for; holding the graphics etc, so that your browser doesn't have to reload them everytime you visit a common page. Renderosity is not working well in this respect, and it bloody well ought to be designed so that it only needs to cache the star once, then redisplay from the cache. I mean, downloading 50 minature graphics on 'every' refresh of a page and for 'every' member online, has gotta be causing performance issues for Renderosity - as well as the poor bstard surfing it. I can live with just about everything they've changed here, and I know they're doing what they can, but I can't live with that. I only hope they're aware of this problem and sort it ASAP. I've got a custom automated system that took nearly 40 effin' minutes to do the job it used to do in just 2. I can't live with that, sod that for a lark. I thought my hard-disk had fcked up, it took so long. Len. (I seriously can't be doing with that - if it's not changed, I'm outa here)

@Skiwillgee...... that is my sig. Sorry if it fooled ya.

@pumeco, I have a premium hi-speed cable hookup(very fast) so it doesn't matter whether I have to reload the entire page(graphics and all) everytime I view it. It does make things faster on 'rosity sometimes if I empty the cache,....don't know why, I know it should do the exact opposite, but it does go faster. Go figure.

Loading 200 fresh or Reading 400,000 entries.....Pick one.

Post this in the Community Forum also, the PHP Programmers will pick up on it. Other than that; You still haven't said what browser you are using? Browsers allow you to put a cap on how big your cache gets, I suggest REMINDING your browser on how big you want it to get, lol. Maybe that will put it back on course? "I've got a custom automated system that took nearly 40 effin' minutes to do the job it used to do in just 2. -What "system" is that? I usually only purge at night before shutting down, and I've put a 1Gb cap on my cache, so it can get really big, but with either my "Windows Washer" or the slower, freeware "CCleaner", it still is maybe only 3-5 minutes.

@pumeco, i hadn't noticed the cache till reading this post from you. @AS, main problem for this happening and we found it out the hard way on the game site i admin on and their forum which i'm a moderator on(been mod for a week) We found with the number of members on that forum we get weekly that the Avatars, Smileys, images in sigs and othe little bits of graphics are one of the main problems for bloated caches.. AS, another thing i would like to point out which another Admin i talked to on this issue is we find most users that use IE, Netscape or Opera tend to get the bloated caches. We haven't had any reports of this happening to FireFox users.

I guess I'm just not seeing the problem with a large cache...other than if for some weird reason it would take you 40 minutes to purge it, of course. I'm assuming everything is caching correctly for me. I mean most pages (now) are completely loaded before I can even scroll down. But hey, no need to mention unneccessary graphics. I never wanted Renderosity to have avatars and such myself. I always thought if they even slowed us down just a little, that was too much, lol. They ARE kinda cool, though.

H'mm I had'nt noticed that I just checked what was in my cache folders and it does seem to be cacheing the stars and things everytime. Does seem to defeate the object of cacheing them in the first place. By the way if anybody dosent know here is a hidden file that internet explorer uses apart from the usual internet tempory files folder: C:Documents and SettingsusernameLocal SettingsTemporary Internet FilesContent.IE5 The username of course refers to whatever you computer is called. In here you will find lots of folders full of cached stuff. I delete these every so often too.

i'm not sure if any of you knew this about Temporary Internet FilesContent.IE5, even though you clean them out how ever manytimes you do it. I have found by using an image viewer i was able to find images in those folders after cleaning them out.

Okay, I checked it out and do see you point. I purged absolutly everything out of my cache(s). I then brought up just the Bryce Forum page. Just the one single page, no others. (My options are set to show me 50 Threads per forum page) And, what do you know...there are 50 little stars in my cache. So, the point I'm clueing into now, is instead of just having to download one 1.5kb star to my hard drive, I ended up downloading 75kb of stars to my hard drive. Now...I'm assuming my browser did not just replicate those stars?? That they were actually requested and downloaded individually?? If so, that IS a problem. I'll see what the staff can tell me.

CD, your image viewer might be caching the images, which is normal for most a lot of viewers, especially any that make thumbs. After using Windows Washer or CCleaner the files are all gone, and after a computer re-start, the index.dat's have all been deleted and re-created, thus purging those also. Now the only way the files really exsist are as files flagged as deleted and they could be brought back with software recovery.

AS thats interesting because even after using window washer(great app) i still saw the images in the image viewer. Not a problem, i'll clean house the way i have done before..infact i might give CCleaner a try myself..always like to keep things nice and tidy around here

LOL@AgentSmith Phewww! Thank god you realise what I'm getting at here, and yes, it IS a MAJOR problem. It's got to be putting a 'major' load of unwarranted work upon R'ositys servers, and indeed, it defeats the whole point of making R'osity faster. If it's faster for folk now, then I'm guessing it's gonna fly when they sort this one Regarding my browser; I'm using InternetExplorer. Regarding my custom system; It doesn't have a name, it's just what I was issued with before I was allowed to take up a contract once. I've never stopped using it, and I have no intention to stop either; it's far superior to that unreliable crap you can buy off-the-shelf. Well, anyway, I'm glad to see folk understand how serious this problem is in real terms, and I think it needs high-priority on the "fix-it" list. Len.

I think the diff is that now ur loading avatars and signatures instead of just text. I doubt it's THAT much up to the stars. Still, u should be able to just dl the star once and it gets instanced around the site... i dunno why its not doing so??

QUOTE: "u should be able to just dl the star once and it gets instanced around the site... i dunno why its not doing so??" Yup - same here. Len. (Hoping to hear some positive feedback from AgentSmith or the PTB's)

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2642709&page=1

IT'S FIXED - IT'S FIXED - IT'S FIXED  :woot:

See the attached thread - go on...go see :tt2:

Len.

AS I tip my hat to you and thank you for putting me on to CCleaner, my wife is a happy little woman once again. Now maybe i can get her to buy me VUE..joking, i'll try for a couple of models from Daz first...

"it's far superior to that unreliable crap you can buy off-the-shelf."

-Pumeco...if your software takes 40 minutes to purge your cache, come on...

Give "ccleaner" a whirl, its free and is EASILY removed if you don't like it. My cpu is right under 2.1Ghz, and it clears my cache of 700mb-900mb in 2-4 minutes.

http://www.ccleaner.com/

At least read about it. Anything that actually stands for "Crap Cleaner", is worth a read, imho. ;o)

Mozilla was hanging  several times last night, had to actually use task manager three times to end it while surfing the forums. Seemed to go away after clearing the cache. 

I love how Firefox can be purged just upon exiting the program.

@ Incarnadine,...........yeah, I had that happening to me also. I thought it was my machine. Thanks for posting that info. Very wierd, first time I've ever had to use the Task Manager to shut down a browser.

I have seen occasional twitches that looked almost the same but didn't hang. I don't think it is fully cache caused but am not sure.

I have put a link direct to my cache on my desktop so if i see it again i can instantly check on amount in play.  Will post if there is a correlation.

I have hanin browsers frequently, but thats on any random site.

@ AgentSmith.

Thanks for the link - but there's no way I'm stopping using this one.

It's not so much the 'actual' deleting that takes-up all that time - it's because it even examines every file before it deletes it.

My problem was because I turned-off automation for almost a week - and during that time I collected more little stars than you could possibly find in our galaxy (and if Peter even attempts to tell us how many stars there ARE in our galaxy - I might just have to harm him) ;-)

Thankfully, that williamsn dude fixed the cache prob - so my deletion times are back to normal.

Len.

it isn't cache as far as I can tell. I have found that the lockups happen when you try to scroll down the page before the header ad, reply text box and occasionally forum banner have loaded. Screen goes blank white except for the browser window top bar.  When you move to another tab as the first is loading, if any of the aformentioned objects haven't finished loading, that tab will blank or just stop.  I am using Mozilla 1.7.2 btw.  The second tab, if it locks while the first is paused will stop the transfer as well. Task manager time!

no issues with any other site, had twelve tabs open , hopping around like mad, not even a hint of a hang. 5 times tonight had to task manager this site though. I am really starting to supect the ad server. page load halts when that is going.  Try to move the page and good chance of lock!

I just upgraded to Mozilla 1.7.12 and it still locks. In the last few days this site has become broken as far as I am concerned (6 task manager-end process tonight and only for renderosity's  forums, the galleries, main page, etc, all other web sites all work fine). When you have to go back to IE just to browse, it's busted!

Downloaded firefox  and so far it hasn't busted in the forums.