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Subject: Vista Internet Products Poser Models: HUGE PRICE REDUCTION!


Lyne ( ) posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 7:32 PM · edited Fri, 16 August 2024 at 1:14 AM

Attached Link: Vista Internet Products

VIP has acquired the full rights and ownership of many models sold in our store! Included are the models for which Lyne's Creations has created Morph and Map sets. Look for huge price reductions on both the base "VIP model" and Lyne's Morph/Map sets as well as some other Lyne's Creations models throughout the store!

This price reduction is permanent.  :)

Lyne
Lyne's Creations
Vista Internet Products

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 8:41 PM

Wonderful stuff and good news. Thanks



Lyne ( ) posted Mon, 01 May 2006 at 9:46 PM

Attached Link: VIP Giraffes

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Photo Real Mother & Baby Giraffe!

New combined Poser set for ridiculously low price! 2 Photo Real Mother and Baby Giraffe textures!
10 Poses! (includes nursing Poses above-left) PZ3 file for "Giraffe Family" pose you see above-right!

I just finished combining this and the EXPANDED, UPDATED Buffalo FAMILY Poser model set, which will go "live" in my store any minute, again for a ridiculously low price!

Now I have to rest my shoulder before more package combining and updating... !

Lyne
Lyne's Creations

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!


rockets ( ) posted Tue, 02 May 2006 at 5:37 AM

OMG Lyne, this is wonderful news...thanks so much! 

My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice!


Acadia ( ) posted Tue, 02 May 2006 at 5:09 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2572568&page=1

I wish you offered them via download like other sites do.

Many of the issues you list on your site under CD vs Download may have been true at one point, but aren't anymore.

Web hosting has decreased in price, and many sites are offering tons of bandwidth per month.  The host I'm with for example offers 10,000 mega bytes of storage, and 500 giga bytes of monthly bandwidth.

Your models look very nice and have testimonials galore and I would love to buy some that I've had my eye on, but I'm not so rich that I can lay out so much money at one time, nor waste my money on shipping and handling costs if I can't meet the "free shipping" purchase value. I'd rather put that $7.00 or whatever it is towards another Poser item that I want or need.  I'm sure there are others who feel the same way.

Also, there are times where you just "need" something now to finish up something you are working on.  Who wants to wait a week or two for the file to arrive by snail mail, I know I sure don't. 

You are losing out on lots of potential sales, and money in your pocket by refusing to grow with the times.

I'm not sure if you saw this thread or not, but you might want to have a look at it.  There is some very helpful advice in there on how to reduce your file sizes to more reasonable ones so that they can be effectively downloaded like other files around the net.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



jaguarwoman ( ) posted Tue, 02 May 2006 at 7:59 PM

Attached Link: http://www,jaguarwoman.com

Acadia, you took the words right out of my mouth. 

Dana Sitarzewski
Jaguarwoman Designs
http://www.jaguarwoman.com


Lyne ( ) posted Wed, 03 May 2006 at 4:03 PM

I am sorry you feel that way...and too, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and ways of shopping. I too am a shopper at all the sites we visit and I love to download, BUT my business manager has studied the situation thoroughly and it is NOT a viable way to go for many serious reasons, not one of which is the "charge backs" that download sites incur. I will not "argue" this, but I will say our customers are loyal, our sales are great and our perfectly reasonable "buy $30 worth for free shipping world wide" works very well. The value of the product, and our amazing fast delivery has kept us in business 6 years now. Acquiring the rights to the products we have been selling is only another boost as we can now control the price of those models as well.
Rest assured that your feelings do not go unheard, though, as we ALWAYS are looking for possible download parameters that will meet our requirements. We can only keep our product prices ridiculously low by doing things the way we DO do them. As you see DAZ even dropped prices to meet the needs of our economy. It is a real concern.
I know too, that for myself if there is something I REALLY need and want, in an on line store, and it has to be shipped, I will do so with no hesitation. Our community is probably the rare exception in "mail order" or on line shopping that caters to the human desire for "instant gratification". I know... I have GIGS of model purchases that I have not even USED yet and fear I never will... Anyway...that is beside the point.
Thank you for your compliment on my work.
Lyne
Lyne's Creations

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!


Lyne ( ) posted Wed, 03 May 2006 at 4:07 PM

PS I have also been observing the TROUBLES with the GIANT download of Hexagon 2 via daz...and people do not realize that a majority of our products are HUNDREDS of MB's each.. the bandwidth costs and jams is NOT worth the price when one can have a permanent archive within a very few days.

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Wed, 03 May 2006 at 4:49 PM

I had my reservations about it as well, but I picked up a few things and I was suprised how fast they came. Never had a problem since then. It isn't immediate but it is really close to it.



Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 2:29 AM · edited Fri, 05 May 2006 at 2:40 AM

Quote - my business manager has studied the situation thoroughly and it is NOT a viable way to go

You're getting very bad advice.

Quote - the "charge backs" that download sites incur

You might want to do some asking around at various sites before you claim that. Poser Works has stated that they've never had a charge back.  The3dZone offers downloads but their credit card purchases are manually authorized before the link is given.

Quote - people do not realize that a majority of our products are HUNDREDS of MB's each

Only because of the way you package your files. If you took the time to read the thread I linked to above, you would see that there is some very helpful information in there that will make your files 5 to 9 MB each, comparative to most poser files out there. There is no reason to have 1 model 300 MB in size.

Quote - the bandwidth costs

I doubt very much that even your site would exceed the 500 gigabytes of monthly bandwidth offered through 1&1 Internet.

Quote - one can have a permanent archive within a very few days.

One can have a permanent archive of their files within 3 minutes of downloading them. All they have to do is stick in one of their own CDs and burn the file.

I'm sorry, but whatever reasons you can come up with to keep it the way it is, I can come up with as many or more for you to change it. You would have far more sales if you offered download, but then again maybe you are so rich that you don't need the extra money that downloads would generate for you.

I'll bet you a cup of coffee that if you offered the option to either download the file or have it burned to CD and shipped snail mail for $7.00 that no one  would opt to have it shipped snail mail.  As for buying $30.00 worth of product to get free shipping.  Some of us can't afford to spend that kind of money at one time and need to break up our purchases into smaller amounts.  Plus factor in the exchange rate and $30 USD comes to more than that for us Canadians, which makes it even harder to come up with that kind of money in one fell swoop.

As I have said, you are missing out on lots of sales by digging in your heels and refusing to grow with the times.

But alas, it is your company and you will  run it the way you want.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



kobaltkween ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 12:30 PM · edited Fri, 05 May 2006 at 12:33 PM

i just want to add that daz had problems with their own servers when giving out a ~ $200 program for $2.   and that only made downloading slow, not impossible.  

and personally, i think it would be a benefit if you reduced your file size in the ways previously mentioned (jpeg textures rather than uncompressed textures, mat poses rather than duplicate characters, etc. - see above link).  because i would have to do all those changes anyway when i got it, and frankly, i just don't have that kind of time.  there are a lot of people managing to do the download thing: dodger, xurge, rawart, philc, xena, etc. 

acadia's very right.  the situation has changed vastly from even when i first bought hosting space to now (and even then, bandwidth to have downloaded products wasn't prohibitively expensive).  most places offer great bandwidth, tools to build stores and galleries, and a very large amount of space for less than the cost of lunch. 

oh, and on the permenant archive:  i've had several cds fail to copy random files after longer periods of time (1+ years).  i've lost entire directories because the directory file couldn't be read.   i've owned various cd repair kits that weren't able to compensate for the minor scratches and such cds seem to accrue over time.  i've had cds get broken through various accidents (including one upon being shipped).   and unless you're burning the cds ultra slow, that data's burned in pretty light.  conversely, i've had precisely one complete hard drive failure in which the data was unrecoverable in my 20+ years of using computers.  and presently i use only seagates, which come with a 5 year warranty. 

so far as my experience goes "permenant archive" means (firewire) hard drive back up, not a fragile and quixotic  optical disk.

edited to add: i do like the looks of your stuff, and i think you're a great artist and asset to the community.  i didn't mean this to just come off bitchy.  i just want to add to the advocates for downloading and image compression.



Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 2:59 PM

Quote - The3dZone

That should have said "Nerd3D" :)

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Niles ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 10:34 PM

Mail order works fine for me, shipping was very fast.  I like the idea of having it on disk, and having a back up... I have lost many  items by failing to back them up. 

 


Dave-So ( ) posted Sat, 06 May 2006 at 7:33 AM

I, for one, would have probably purchased all the products there, or most, upon release, if it wasn't for the ship only policy. I couldn't see paying $20, or $17 plus shipping, then waiting for it to arrive.

When I buy Poser stuff, I have my $20 dollars or so, and get instant gratification.

I AGREE WITH THE FACT YOUR SALES WOULD PROBABLY BE 100 TIMES HIGHER IF YOU OFFERED DOWNLOAD.

So far, over all these years, I have just recently purchased the ducks and geese from you. Yes, the CD came fairly quickly, it was about a week or so, but there is no doubt that had I been able to download the products, a little at a time, I would have all of them, especially considering my primary renderings are landscape and outdoors type of images.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854



Lyne ( ) posted Sun, 07 May 2006 at 5:26 PM

**Acadia, I said I would NOT ARGUE this! Who and why I TRUST my business manager is my concern. If I am happy with my store, my sales, etc. then it is MY concern. I am going to un subscribe to this thread, as I do not need to be attacked, lectured to, or stressed in any manner.

I ONLY was posting NEWS about my store for the public's information. We all are responsible for our own lives, our own way of living, and I would NOT presume to tell you how to conduct your business. So..now please forgive me- my health is more important than continuing in any manner here... and I will harbor no ill feelings. You are free to shop where and how you will and I will not judge you.
 
Lyne
Lyne's Creations**

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!


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