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Subject: How to make this light effect like Agentsmith ??


amlan70 ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 8:25 AM · edited Mon, 29 July 2024 at 1:47 AM

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**Hi,**

**       I was trying to make volumetric streaming light rays falling on the river valley  from the sky . But all I know is editing the lighting properties of a conical spotlight , making it volume and infinite visible . But how to get this effect as Agentsmith did in these two pics ? I also tried to apply the streaming rays material to a cone , but then i cdnt get rid of the round base of the cone . What to do . Please advice me.......................................Need this urgently. I have shown my pic, done with the cone and Agentsmith`s pics too . Waiting your reply................ Thanks.....**


amlan70 ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 8:32 AM

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The Calm Before by Agentsmith................ see the wonderful light rays ...........


amlan70 ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 8:35 AM

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Slow Ascent by Agentsmith.......................lovely rays with such a nice summing up !!! Please advice Byceters !!!

 


Gog ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 8:36 AM

You can do this by playing with volumetric light gradients etc, but I have a feeling AS may have used the Luce plug in in post work

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 5:27 PM

"Slow Ascent" was a post-work, using the Luce 2D plugin, in photoshop. But, I did make a volumetric ray with that plugin, that can be used inside of Bryce on a 2d face, lemme go look for that gain, and I'll post it up...

The problem that you have with the cone is easily fixed, keep resizing the cone longer (but keep the same diameter), until the entire base of the cone pokes through the ground.

Be right back...;o)

 

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 5:53 PM

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Make your cone do this.

The cone on the right is exactly the same, I just lowered it until the upper edge of the base of the cone just barely pokes through the ground, which will eliminate the problem you are having.

Of course, having the cone do this, you usally need to re-position the angle and placement to get the light ray to be kinda where you want it again, but this is a neccessary evil.

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 6:38 PM

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Oh I had a play with this, see image.

Of course by the time I found the image AS had already replied.

I just used linear falloff to remove the round disc of light that would otherwise fall on the sand.

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amlan70 ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 9:24 PM

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Thanks **Agentsmith**. I am trying your techniques . wd get back soon . ; ) . But **Fran** I am trying out with linear on , with a spotlight on the ground . BUt I cant get the circle on the ground off !! Also how did you get the strands of light so distinct ?? See this is my setting and my result ... I used the lit rays material on the light , made a linear fall off and also altered the transparency of the material a bit . Please let me know ...........


amlan70 ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 9:25 PM

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and heres what I got . ....


AgentSmith ( ) posted Wed, 17 May 2006 at 9:48 PM

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Here's that image that can be used on a 2d face or just in an image editor as post-work. I think this is the one I created for use in "Slow Ascent".

1024 x 1400

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 18 May 2006 at 5:32 AM

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Okay, sorry I didn't reply before, amlan70, but I have to sleep sometimes.

Now, here's the settings for the light with the rays on it: - see above.

Notice that the intensity is only 4!

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 18 May 2006 at 5:33 AM

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These are the settings for the second spot light - as you can see this uses a caustic, which is what gives those light patterns on the seabed.

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 18 May 2006 at 5:34 AM

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And here you can see the scene without the effect of the second spotlight:

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 18 May 2006 at 5:36 AM · edited Thu, 18 May 2006 at 5:38 AM

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The spotlight with the rays on it uses a procedural, and it's elongated - see image for a side view showing both spots in wireframe:

Ignore the blue oblong - it's a water plane but it's hidden in this, all it did was to give a surface - you might see it's effects in the first image I posted - the reflections of the underwater "hills" above them.  But just ignore it for this...

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 18 May 2006 at 6:55 AM · edited Thu, 18 May 2006 at 6:56 AM

Of course the sky settings make a difference too.  I can post those too if you like.  Or just the sky preset I used - might be simpler.  If I can figure out where to get an empty sky file....

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sat, 20 May 2006 at 6:51 PM

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Okay, here are the sky settings, 1st Atmosphere:

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sat, 20 May 2006 at 6:52 PM · edited Sat, 20 May 2006 at 6:53 PM

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2nd clouds (but I don't think I did much here):

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sat, 20 May 2006 at 6:54 PM

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And finally Sun&Moon:

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amlan70 ( ) posted Mon, 22 May 2006 at 10:09 PM

Ya thanks so much Agentsmith & Fran. I am applying all these techniques. Wd show you the results soon.Accept my sincere Gratitude for helping me out !! : )


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 25 May 2006 at 6:17 AM

amlan70,

I look forward to seeing what you come up with. 

There is more than one way to do this, the way I have used here is with the light going through atmospherics - one other way is to let the light fall through a volumetric slab of water, without bothering about the sky, fog, haze etc.

(P.S. I think the caustic is the one from freebies here on R'osity - in case you can't find one)

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Rayraz ( ) posted Fri, 26 May 2006 at 3:59 PM

ah cool stuff there franny!

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Wed, 31 May 2006 at 4:42 PM

Peers at Rayraz distainfully well, he can't be talking of me - there ain't no 'y's in MY name.

changes subject

It's a pretty simple scene, I just wish I could make a decent picture from that.  But I'm all out of ideas... underwater it's always cool..... I wonder if you could portray a "Hot Ocean"?  (Musingly)

I did a red underwater scene a while back.... that didn't go anywhere much either.  It was interesting though.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

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http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Wed, 31 May 2006 at 5:14 PM

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Here's what I have for the red sea:  As you see I'm kind of stuck with it...

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

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http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 01 June 2006 at 9:06 AM

Quote - Peers at Rayraz distainfully well, he can't be talking of me - there ain't no 'y's in MY name.

changes subject

It's a pretty simple scene, I just wish I could make a decent picture from that.  But I'm all out of ideas... underwater it's always cool..... I wonder if you could portray a "Hot Ocean"?  (Musingly)

I did a red underwater scene a while back.... that didn't go anywhere much either.  It was interesting though.

I sometimes make nicknames on the fly 😉

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Wed, 07 June 2006 at 5:28 PM

Quote - I sometimes make nicknames on the fly 😉

Bad Rayraz.   Bad bad bad Rayraz! (slowly takes large wet haddock out of haddock holster)

ggg

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Rayraz ( ) posted Fri, 09 June 2006 at 9:47 AM

What's a haddock? is it a weird scottish thing? like haggis? :-P

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sun, 11 June 2006 at 8:29 PM · edited Sun, 11 June 2006 at 8:29 PM

It's the kind of thing you normally get at the chippy... covered with crisp golden batter.  Comes with chips.

Often called "adduck 'n chips, wiv mooshy peas.... twice"

Yours on the other hand (flails the haddock vaguely but threateningly around in the air - twice narrowly missing slicing through Rayraz's throat) is more the damp and grey skinned variety, somewhat scaley with sticky slime dripping from it.

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Rayraz ( ) posted Mon, 12 June 2006 at 8:48 AM

I'm sorry but im not impressed 😉

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Fri, 16 June 2006 at 5:56 AM · edited Fri, 16 June 2006 at 5:57 AM

You know I think you're starting to go - ever so slightly - off topic there... I don't see anything related to water in any way.

I'm sure this was to do with water when we started... (pious expression)

(doggy paddles away as fast as possible - knowing full well he can't follow, not with those big billowing skirts of his)

(never mind that big heavy metal thing in his right hand that's just gonna drag him under in jig time)

You know, you really need to get into the swim of things old boy.

(snork)

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Rayraz ( ) posted Fri, 16 June 2006 at 1:37 PM

Swimming just happens to be my best sport :-P

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 6:30 PM

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Dat's okay - I got me some propulsion!

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Rayraz ( ) posted Wed, 21 June 2006 at 1:04 AM

It took u 4 days to come up with it though, so I have a hell of a head start 😉 By now I'm back on land already. but that's ok, u could try and see if ur propeller works as well displacing air as it does displacing water :-P

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Fri, 23 June 2006 at 6:35 PM

Actually it only took me as long as it took to plonk it in and render, but I'm about 4 days behind on my emails... so... I'll have to try it out on land later - it might replace the chainsaw though, those blades look lethal enough - so you'll have to watch out... But if you're on land... I guess that's the end for this thread, seeing as this is an underwater thread.

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FutureFantasyDesign ( ) posted Fri, 23 June 2006 at 8:06 PM

*Newbie carefully pokes her head in the thread......

*sighs and ThanX the Gods that talented people like Fran (*respectfully stated) and
Agent Smith, post such easy and informative tuts on the fly.....

**Hi Thread! I stopped to read about the lighting and am I ever glad I did! I was about to ask in another new thread how this effect was achieved! I will be playing in Bryce for hours getting this one down! Did someone mention sleep? I remember that from a few months back.....don't think I had Bryce or any of these darn programs back then!?
*scratches head

Will stop by with my own results later.
If it isn't too impertinent Agent Smith or Fran, I saved the cone of light and wondered
if one of you would kindly tell me how to use it? To me it looks like a mask, but I wait for one of you before  trying anything with it. 
Many ThanX!
Ariana
**

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FutureFantasyDesign ( ) posted Sat, 24 June 2006 at 1:17 PM

Fran could you explain to me how large the cone of light is that you are using? I can't saeem to pin down this effect. ThanX!
Ariana

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Water, the ultimate weapon...

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Mon, 26 June 2006 at 10:39 AM

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The cone of light, right - hang on I'll go look... Well in terms of size it's a major ingredient of the scene.

Here's the cone which in this scene pretty much envelopes the majority of the other things in the scene.

I'll post some more stuff in other messages.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Mon, 26 June 2006 at 12:28 PM

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Here's the scene with the cone in it:  The full version is in my gallery.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Mon, 26 June 2006 at 12:33 PM · edited Mon, 26 June 2006 at 12:35 PM

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It also makes a difference what material you put onto the cone, here I used a light gel (from Bryce I think, in other words it came with it.) but I tweaked it a bit, as to colour mainly, don't think I changed anything else, anyway this image shows the gel's settings.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Mon, 26 June 2006 at 12:57 PM · edited Mon, 26 June 2006 at 1:01 PM

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And there's a very big spotlight in there: see?   on that I used a caustic - go through "light gel" in the light lab (E on the list when the light is selected) and locate where you've saved your light gels - some are available in the Renderosity free stuff.

Oh and the cone itself is just a cone from the list of Bryce primatives, er.. see next message.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Mon, 26 June 2006 at 1:02 PM · edited Mon, 26 June 2006 at 1:05 PM

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Sorry, can't post more than 1 image per message.  Here's where you find the Bryce cone:

If you need any more info - let me know.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


FutureFantasyDesign ( ) posted Tue, 27 June 2006 at 3:59 AM

ThanX so much Fran! I will have to play with this after we get thru the fires in our area....I an in Northern Nevada and we have several very large fires in our area. Possible evacuations are going to be called for. I will be off line for about at least 3-4 days. Wish us luck...it is very scary.
Ariana

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Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sun, 02 July 2006 at 5:36 AM

Ah, I'm behind in my ebots - again.  I hope you manage/d okay, some members have posted photos of fires in their areas - scary indeed.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


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