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Subject: Remapping the Duke (akd Dork) to Michael 3!


dphoadley ( ) posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 10:18 AM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 6:47 AM

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Introducing my next project.  DPH

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JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 4:56 PM

Good luck!  UV mapping makes my brain want to melt.  You're a saint, man! LOL  Or at least, to quote Ruyard Kipling, "You're a braver man than I."

I cannot save the world. Only my little piece of it. If we all act together, we can save the world.--Nelson Mandela
An  inconsistent hobgoblin is the fool of little minds
Taking "Just do it" to a whole new level!   


Valerian70 ( ) posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 5:00 PM

Now I know why you ahve that cap on in your AV - it's so we can;t see how much hair you pulled out remapping Posette :o)

 

 


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 5:35 PM

Looking forward to the results! You're more patient than I am. Hat's off to you Sir! (You can leave yours on if you're really hiding all the pulled out hair) Hehehe.....


ThrommArcadia ( ) posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 5:57 PM

DP, my friend, you are a mad man!!

I look forward to your results.  Keep us posted.


mathman ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 1:19 AM

You are amazing, David !! ..... you must be very patient and meticulous. Congratulations and thanks for everything you contribute towards the Poser community.


drifterlee ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 4:02 AM

I can't wait!!!! Now I am on a fixing and tinkering binge myself. Just fixed the lovely free Tuyuko. WIll post a render tomorrow.


Channing ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 7:53 AM

I am highly anticipating this conversion. Thanks again for all of your hard work.


infinity10 ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 8:27 AM

bump up

Interesting.  I expect this will involve a neutered Dork hip version vs the neutered M3 version.  Which means those male bits will have to be added on later.

Eternal Hobbyist

 


Indoda ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 10:19 AM

Good luck with your new project - you must be an expert in UV mapping by now.

The important thing is not to stop questioning.
- Albert Einstein

Indoda


drifterlee ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 1:49 PM

Dave, I am surprised you have not grabbed the free Apollo Maximus. He has so many morphs you can make him into anything. Also the free Mayadoll is cute with some of Yamato's free characters and the new Tuyuko. When I think of the money I have spent when there are so many nice freebies out there, I am ashamed (sort of, LOL!)


drifterlee ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 1:50 PM

PS. Why don't your post a tut on UV mapping. I am clueless.


dphoadley ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 2:25 PM

dphoadley@drifterlee

I have Appollo, I just don't care to use him, prefering to enhance the tried and true Duke instead.  I've also tried MayaDoll, but gave upin disgust.  Her bust is just too unnatural, and I don't like the way her shins attache to her legs BEHIND the kanee, instead of beneath them.  No, Posette and Duke are the teh BEST.  Long live the Queen and her Consort!

**dphoadley@**infinity10

"I expect this will involve a neutered Dork hip version vs the neutered M3 version.  Which means those male bits will have to be added on later."

Castration is agains my religion.

DPH

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fls13 ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 4:37 PM

:O) I've got to admire your spunk. I'm still a big fan of the P5s, but the P4s have value and remember being pretty happy with some custom morphing I did on them waaaay back in the day.


drifterlee ( ) posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 7:03 PM

Good luck on the Dork, then! Eagerly waiting your progress!


dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 15 April 2007 at 3:07 PM

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The Duke progresses!  May his reign be glorious!

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drifterlee ( ) posted Sun, 15 April 2007 at 4:30 PM

Then you have to remap the orignal Poser kids to take those cute Matt and Maddie and the Millenium kids textures! No rest for the wicked, LOL!


dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 15 April 2007 at 5:33 PM

The only part of teh process I dread is the feet.  The hands are awfull, but the feet are a real horror.  They've never been mapped, and so I first have to seperate them into two planar surfaces, but then search out all the bits of facets that didn't seperate properly.  It's a real PITA, and not the kind that  I eat with Humus.

DPH

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dphoadley ( ) posted Wed, 18 April 2007 at 11:56 PM

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**Progress Report**:

Slow but steady.  I should finish the torso in the next few days.

DPH

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dphoadley ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 12:44 AM

For anyone interested in the remapping itself, I give a few pointes here.

 

  1. It’s always easier to remap an object, than it is to make an initial map of an unmapped object.
  2. When mapping, look for patterns, and try to fit them against whatever template you’re using.  With the Duke (aka Dork), I’ve proceeded thus: 1. Since his UV is already divided longitudinally, I first tried to match the front texture as much as possible with the texture of M3.  What I mainly watched out for, was to line up Duke’s navel and nipples with those of M3’s.  All else could, and will, be worked out as soon as I got these three points to correspond and correlate to each other.
  3. I then divided the back texture into four quarters, i.e. Left and Right Shoulders, and Left and Right Buttocks.  These I then jockey into the correct position vis-à-vis the front texture.  The shoulders I have to flip vertically so, after being melded/stitched to the front texture, it will fold correctly around behind the arms and back.
  4. The head I’ll do in a similar fashion, first I’ll jockey the face until the eyes and nose match up (if the lips don’t match, their vertices can be moved manually into place later, but the eyes and nose are the MOST important features to line up properly.  Get these right, then everything else follows).  The back of the head (Scalp), I then divide longitudinally into two halves: Left and Right; and these I then line up on either side of the head, stitch together and move the vertices into place, as required. 
  5. When mapping a symmetrical object, it’s easier if you do one side first, and then save as a template.  This template can then be opened in a paint program (one that allows layering).  The map side can then be selected and copied and pasted onto a NEW layer, and then flipped horizontally.  This should then be jockeyed so that it covers the UNMAPPED half of the template, in such a way that the two halves both match and mirror each other.  Save as a New Template, and then use this to aid in remapping the unmapped halves of the object.  The second half always is easier (and quicker) once you have guide as to where to put the vertices.

 

This, in a nutshell, is what I’m doing with The Duke (dork), and have done previously with PosetteV3; the rest is just detail (and sometimes extremely tedious detail at that).  DPH                  

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JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 1:00 AM

I am impressed by the combination of your knowledge, patience, and insights! Sir, you rock!

You may not be a rabbi (I don't know) but in this, you seem as wise as a rabbi!  I do not have to be Hebrew to know wise, knowledgable people when I come across them.  Everyone knows, that we need as many wise people on this world as we can get! (No insult is meant in comparing you to a rabbi in something relatively trivial to most people in the world.)

I am not easily impressed, but you impressed me.

I just wanted to say something about this project.  I couldn't without talking about you, sir.  Thank you for your giving spirit and dedication to the things you enjoy!  ^__^ V,,

Shalom!

I cannot save the world. Only my little piece of it. If we all act together, we can save the world.--Nelson Mandela
An  inconsistent hobgoblin is the fool of little minds
Taking "Just do it" to a whole new level!   


pitklad ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 8:19 AM

JOELGLAINE if you are interested on remmaping take a look on that thread also! 😉
**
**Remapping Ghastley's Asian Eve

And check the UV mapper forum also


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momodot ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 8:45 AM

Just an idea... can you cut off the feet, make some temporary groups as markers and try spherical maping or something that opens up the mesh more and then reattach and de-group them to do the final mapping?

Can you make a template zoomed in on the foot only and map a foot only object to it then retatch the foot and scale it down to the standard map?

Just random ideas from a know nothing :)



dphoadley ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 8:58 AM

dphoadley@momodot

I'm not sure.  My conservative nature baulks somewhat at so radical approach, for fear that it MIGHT ruin all that I have done(yes, I know, save as a NEW file first).   My remapping of Posette was once set back three hours (work lost), because my anti-virus decided to do an in-depth scan just at the moment that I was saving my work.  The pait blistered on my walls from my heartfelt curses in three languages: English, Hebrew, & Arabic.

Lukily I had a previous day's version saved in a seperate folder, but to redo three hours of work generally takes three more hours.  Usually what I do is hide all other material groups, and then do a Planar-split to the feet, and then spend the next week and a half stitching them back together, but on a flat plane instead.  This is slow, tedious, and irksome; but effective. DPH

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pitklad ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 9:15 AM

momodot the method you said is exactly the one I use for hands and feet!!! :biggrin:

I make them fit all the screen, use this template and then resize back on the regular position/size


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Francemi ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 3:54 PM

Like everyone else I admire your patience David. ;o)

And like for Posette-V3, I am very interested in getting Dork-M3. I like Wardrobe Wizard to convert clothes but there is nothing like the original and I have so many clothes for these 2!

France, Proud Owner of

KCTC Freebies  


dphoadley ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 4:21 PM

Thank you Francemi.  I guarantee you, when I get the Duke done, you'll be the FIRST to recieve a copy of the file.  EVERYONE will recieve a copy that wishes it.
NOW, go render me some pictures of PosetteV3! ;=D
Yours truly,
David P. Hoadley

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Francemi ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 4:26 PM

*NOW, go render me some pictures of PosetteV3!
*Well, not for a little while. We finally have nice weather out here so I started taking out all my Summer clothes and I have to clean the windows and... you get the idea! Still, Posette-V3 seems to be very happy in my runtimes! ;o)

France, Proud Owner of

KCTC Freebies  


dphoadley ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 4:34 PM

Ah well, Spring is in the air!   Hurrah, hurrah!  The almond has blossomed, and the vines grow heavy with grape.
DPH

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drifterlee ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2007 at 4:49 PM

Dave, I have learned to turn off all screensavers, virus programs etc. when working on something like that. Just don't forget to turn them back on when you are done.


dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 10:15 AM

Content Advisory! This message contains nudity

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**Progress Report**: Progress slow and discouraging.  Morale is low, especially after the vitriolic reception of PosetteV3 by certain parties.  Will endeavor to continue. DPH

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jancory ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 10:54 AM

please don't let a few negative reactions deter you from this magnificent endeavor.  lookin' good!


lost in the wilderness

Poser 13, Poser11,  Win7Pro 64, now with 24GB ram

ooh! i guess i can add my new render(only) machine!  Win11, I7, RTX 3060 12GB

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Francemi ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 11:10 AM

No, keep it up Dave! Poor Posette-V3 will be very sad if she doesn't have a boyfriend!!! ;o)

France, Proud Owner of

KCTC Freebies  


JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 11:28 AM

There are apparently a LOAD of pin-headed jerks around here who HATE freebies!  So--IMVHO-- Piss on 'em all!

There are to many haters without friends, or manners, or enough braincells to get a pair together to rub against each other!  I got V3posette  and I love her!
 
Dude-- you are doing a great, great job!  I , for one, respect you IMMENSELY  and admire the hard work and dedication neccesary to do this project!  People who have NEVER done a freebie don't have a clue.  I have (now) and DO have a clue.

Like the ol Latins used to say, "Illigetimati non coborundum."  My spelling might be way off, but 'Don't let bastards wear you down' is still a universal feeling, today. ^__^ V,,

Keep up the good fight!

I cannot save the world. Only my little piece of it. If we all act together, we can save the world.--Nelson Mandela
An  inconsistent hobgoblin is the fool of little minds
Taking "Just do it" to a whole new level!   


BastBlack ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 12:33 PM

Don't be discouraged Just curious, are you using UVmapper to redo the UVs, or an unfold UV program? Do you want a custom morph for Dork? bB


ghelmer ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 1:10 PM

Awesome work going on there Mr Hoadley!!!  Now if you could just remap the Dork to look like "THE Duke" that would be mighty nice Pilgrim!!!  LOLZ!!!  Really though, I'm totally impressed with your efforts with PosetteV3 and now the Dork!!!  UV mapping is tedious and I've never had the patience for it, so I gotta give ya credit in that department!!!

Gerard

The GR00VY GH0ULIE!

You are pure, you are snow
We are the useless sluts that they mould
Rock n roll is our epiphany
Culture, alienation, boredom and despair


dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 1:22 PM

**@**BastBlack: UVMapperPro.

@ghelmer & JOELGLAINE: Sorry, but while I did include certain morphs with my PosetteV3 that I shouldn't have, it depresses me that after all my efforts on this project, certain parties couldn't give me the credit that at least my intentions had been good (albeit mistaken).
DPH
PS: It's also the day.  Today is memorial day in Israel, when we morn our loved ones who've fallen in battle.

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Francemi ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 1:29 PM

Maybe it's not a really good day to be working on Dork then. Maybe what you needed most here today is moral support about the memorial more than about the remapping. In any case, I empathize with you: losing loved ones is always hard and even more so when it's to satisfy the "great men" of this world. ;o(

France, Proud Owner of

KCTC Freebies  


SoCalRoberta ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 1:34 PM

The amount of work you are taking on is staggering! You must have the patience of a saint to do it. I have nothing but admiration and praise for you and your work.


dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 1:39 PM

I haven't lost family, than G-d, but I have lost friends & acquaintances.  And I have personally survived one bomb blast that killed three.
DPH

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dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 2:43 PM

To advoid the sitution that I just went through with PosetteV3 and morphs that I shouldn't have included, I'm asking people to DONATE face shaping and body shaping morphs that I may include in the final Cr2.  As I donate my time and energy to remapping, please donate your morphs that this figure may stand on a par with the Unimesh and even Anton's Apollo.
DPH

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JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 2:46 PM · edited Sun, 22 April 2007 at 2:50 PM

@ David  All any of us can do is act with the purest of thought and try to act with purpose with a free heart.  If any mistakes are done, some people can never understand, because they think they are perfect.

If you made a mistake, you can apologize to the parties offended, fix the problem, admit you made a mistake and move on.  I am not, nor have I ever known any "perfect" people.  I've known people who come close, but not mistake free.

Life is filled with anticipation and of course, disappointment.  No matter what you do, someone will suffer one or even both.  I do not suffer mfrom either at present.  I have appreciation for your hard work.  Do not get discouraged.

EDIT>  WHen you get the zip file done up, let us know, I'll download the new one, and delete the old one!  If only the world's problems were so easy to fix. :laugh:  Pencils have erasers for WHAT reason again?

I cannot save the world. Only my little piece of it. If we all act together, we can save the world.--Nelson Mandela
An  inconsistent hobgoblin is the fool of little minds
Taking "Just do it" to a whole new level!   


dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 2:56 PM

I've sent new Cr2's twice now to Victoria_Lee, because they keep telling me piecemeal what they don't like.  So, the present Cr2 is less 4 character morphs; which, of course, IF you want to, can still be DL'd fropm PF.
DPH

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dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 3:01 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1427444

And Do checkout and rate what Kalypso has done with my figure.  She's a REAL genius at posing & rendering. DPH

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Francemi ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 3:59 PM

This is a great render indeed! And what she says is true for me too: I love the fact that Posette is not as much time consuming when rendering.

France, Proud Owner of

KCTC Freebies  


momodot ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 4:56 PM

dp, that Dork work looks great.



drifterlee ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 5:22 PM

The dork looks good, Dave! I like him hairy. Don't get discouraged. This is a hobby and should be fun!!!! Don't let people get you down. No one is forcing them to use Posette if they don't like her. I have problems with a obnoxious teenage girl whose mother owns the horsefarm where I board my horse. I have really bad knees and it is hard for me to get on my tall horse. This nasty (insert fowl languarge here) laughs at me. A lot of the time I leave the farm feeling really down because of the crap she puts me through. I have known her since she was 5, so she thinks I'm fair game to ridicule. Anyway, don't feel bad over stuff said online. At least we can delete it or turn off the PC.


mathman ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 5:33 PM

David, don't let a few d*ckheads stop you from doing what you are doing. You are very generous with your time and talents.


JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 7:36 PM

D**kheads are running wild on this site lately, it seems.

I cannot save the world. Only my little piece of it. If we all act together, we can save the world.--Nelson Mandela
An  inconsistent hobgoblin is the fool of little minds
Taking "Just do it" to a whole new level!   


Channing ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 8:25 PM

David, Those WIP images look great! You are doing a great service to all of us Poser users. Just consider that for every one who posts a word of encouragement there are hundreds of others who read and agree. Yes, there may be some who criticize, but no matter what, your efforts are greatly appreciated! Channing


dphoadley ( ) posted Sun, 22 April 2007 at 8:47 PM

Good friends are those who are there for you when you need them; I thank you ALL for your kind and generous support.  I think that my binge of pathetic self-pity is over.  I WILL see this project to the finish -Dork will be reborn as the Duke.
Yours truly,
David P. Hoadley

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