Quote - will see the error of their policy and make their free stuff forum "non exclusive" like Poser Pros and Daz Freepository does.

And Content Paradise. You accidently missed that one. :)

Quote - > Quote - will see the error of their policy and make their free stuff forum "non exclusive" like Poser Pros and Daz Freepository does.

 

And Content Paradise. You accidently missed that one. :)

And Sixus1... you missed that one as well ;)

One little thing in the 6 years that I have watched, dims that glimmer even more. LOL. Though I do remember a change with the children clothing tos between male and female, I think that was revamped right after the original rule. That was what 2/3 years ago?

This rule is so ridiculous that it may be changed. What I find even more ridiculous was the consideration of such a rule in the first place. It only hurts the community not help it.

Next thing you know, they will want everyone RF id tagged and have to scan yourself to log on. Sad, some will praise that idea too and even thank them for it. LOL

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Next thing you know, they will want everyone RF id tagged and have to scan yourself to log on. Sad, some will praise that idea too and even thank them for it. LOL

I may chip my dog, and even my cat, but not me!  LOL!

Well then  im in trouble with a name like BAR-CODE  :lol:

Quote - Bottom line is YOU (R'sity) are trying to control what is or is not allowed to be seen and downloaded by people! If a link is bad, people will let you know REALLY FAST!!! What you are doing is restricting access for people so that everything MUST have the seal of approval of the website! That is BULL! I don't need your approval to give my stuff away. I don't need your website to give it away either!

I'm sorry you're aggrivated here :(

You know, as much as I hate hints of big brotherdom and restrictions, rosity owns the site, and they have the right, and obligation to monitor or limit what and how gets downloaded off their site, or how things get accessed through their site. Even if free for most of us, it's their site.

I really don't see how putting your freebies through rendo's freebies section hinders you at all. If anything, makes it esier to find them. In my case, I tend to go to the freebie section to finds something, and don't think to dig through forums for links. Actually, I tend to dislike links to direct downloads from the forum, as I often like to see some info about what I'm downloading before I download it.

your missing a few points.

not everyone comes to rendo. there are many freebies that don't get posted here unless someone posts them in the forums.

Japanese sites. all of Kazboro's hairs. free software. etc

put it this way. Microsoft offer free programs that ppl here can use. you want them to put their stuff through renderosity testing?

also Poser Python Scripts that have been written by kind ppl here to help others out. want them tested before they can be posted? (they are freestuff..)

Dang silly idea. 

Whats next - charging to upload freebies ?

Freestuff and freestuff makers should be encouraged and not hindered - as these are often the merchants of the future.

Quote - I really don't see how putting your freebies through rendo's freebies section hinders you at all.

And what about all of the other great freebie downloads around the Poser community? Renderosity is seeking to make it so that the only freebies allowed to be offered here, or linked to here are those that are in the free stuff area here at Renderosity.

Under this new policy you can't post a link to any site that has freebies. The only freebies that Renderosity is now allowing to be linked from their site, and only in the Free Stuff Forum,  are those that are in the free stuff section here.

This means that we can no longer post links to freebies in order to help each other out when looking for stuff. It also means not being able to post "found" links like I tend to do when I am looking for something and stumble on various other interesting sites with nice free stuff offers.

As I've said before, I can see having a forum where we post our free stuff offers and any free stuff links, regardless of where those items are hosted.  However, to make it only exclusive to Renderosity Free Stuff items is obscene.

As mrsparky said, freebie providers should be encouraged because they are likely to be merchants in time. All this is doing is hindering and discouraging them :(

EDIT:

I just wanted to address one thing that I recall reading above somewhere. I think it was Jumpstartme2 that mentioned about the Product Showcase  Forum as an example of a specialized forum when defending the reason behind the new Free Stuff Forum and freebie linking policy.

I browse that forum from time to time and the posts in there are NOT limited exclusively to Renderosity Merchants. I see ads posted there for products sold at other stores. However, the Free Stuff Forum is exclusive to Renderosity freebies.

Given the way Renderosity is trying to isolate themselves from every other site, I guess we  can expect that that will soon change too and that the Product Showcase Forum too will become Renderosity exclusive?

Kalypso said:

Quote - I fail to see the sense in all this, it doesn't facilitate things, just hinders them :(

Pardon my sarcasm, but since when has this site facilitated anything other than funneling large amounts of cash into the pockets of the Choate's and a few select others? Of course, a little alturism once in a while would be nice. :p

Yeah...yeah...i know...I'm a baaaaaaaaaad boy! >:]

On the positive side, I can kinda, sorta, almost, maybe, understand the need to protect members from bad things by forbidding direct linking and I can kinda, sorta, almost, maybe agree with it...kinda...sorta...almost...maybe...

*This means that we can no longer post links to freebies in order to help each other out when looking for stuff. *
Well we can always ask and if someone can help us they could post the reply in another forum and post the link to that other forum's thread in the forum here since a forum is not a freebie site. ;o)

I wish there was a forum and free stuff site out there with no ties to selling  whatsoever - it seems this buck pulls too many strings around here and it's just ultimately frustrating. 

@ jjroland

http://www.planit3d.com/source/index.php

planit3d  has no store associations.

I created a number of hair-shaping morphs for one of Kozaburo's freebee hair. They look great and I was going to post a note about it here. You know, where you'll find them since rendo' will not host the files. Now, people will just have to guess where they are. Good luck! ; )

hmmmmmmmmm..read the whole thing... and am bookmarking for the mod decision..
netta

This is a bad time for renderosity to be alienating members with strange rules, some of the other larger poser sites are already losing interest so renderosity should try to avoid discouraging people from coming here.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!

I really hate to add fire to this argument, but what, exactly, are the free items tested for?
On page 2 of the Poser Free Stuff section, there are 2 items with broken thumbnail images: "jabiru bird" and "AM_BodyMorph". There are 4 items on page 7 with the same broken thumbnail images:V4 Warrior outfit, Devil Props, Sage Texture For V3, and Sage Morphs For V3.
These aren't the usual "No thumbnail was supplied" message, but the "missing image" icon. Plus, I thought thumbnail images were required.
 
On page 4 is a "Doctor Strange M1". Now I know this issue is beyond beating a dead horse, but if the "testers" are going to "test" for copyright infringements, how is a Doctor Strange character allowed? Or does no one read Marvel Comics? And if none of the "testers" read Marvel Comics, how will they know if another user uploads another Marvel character?
 
And I'm offended by the nude thumbnail on page 10 for Miki2.0 Natural Stand Pose:Site Link.The character's naked butt and naked side-breast is too in-my-face.
(The "Japanese" items also have broken thumbnail images, but this seems to be a common issue.)

JHoagland .............your right...
there are also many items to things that are not even offered at the linked site anymore.
look at poserdreams bed..... it's not on the site as there freebies are limited... and the thumbnail here is missing also... many of the older downloads are like this the links are no good. 
netta

"And the web Trafiic will be MINE!! They will have to use the Marketplace now!
Muwahahaha!!"

Now this is where the new no link is real unhelpful to the readers of this forum: I read a request for an item and another person responded that said item was in existence, paraphrased, PM sent with link. No offense to the respnder, doing what new TOS states. Others may have been interested in said item but now SOL.

Quote - Apparently all freebies offered on this site by it's members have to be posted in the freebie section now. So instead of uploading the freebie to your server and just posting it here in the Poser forum as has been the case, you now have to formally submit the item to the free stuff section here so that the staff can test the product.

ROTFL... they won't even test their marketplace stuff (except to see if the zipped files go where they need to go), but they gotta test the freebies? That's friggin' rich... thx for the laughter, guys :) /P

LOL. I hope they asked for 2 free stuff links in payment.

The FreeStuff Black Market is now open.

Hey that's MY white horse thank you.   :)
Then who's the woman on the tracks? She must be the freebie :) 

The caption for that is....

"You are not permitted to put this woman on these tracks until she has been tested and posted to Freestuff!!!!"

:b_funny:

Yes, I was very tempted to put something like that.
I left it up to viewer interpatation...you know I wouldn't diss the king of all freebies!

That be you bud.

Quote - Frankly, since the MP testing queue is so long and now we have the QC review to determine if the product is even "worthy" of being sold here, a lot of merchants and freebie providers are going to go elsewhere.

Actually, I'm all for testing marketplace stuff. You're selling that stuff in exchange for [i]money[/i]. So does the RMP finally do more than simply check to see if it unzips right, or is it that there's so much stuff that the queue has gotten that long? /P

Quote - That be you bud.

Aww. Shucks. :)

Quote - Now this is where the new no link is real unhelpful to the readers of this forum: I read a request for an item and another person responded that said item was in existence, paraphrased, PM sent with link. No offense to the respnder, doing what new TOS states. Others may have been interested in said item but now SOL.

That would have been me :)  If you want the link to the site feel free to PM me and I'll shoot it to you.

Acadia, better prepare yourself, you'll be inundated with PMs soon! You were always so helpful in finding stuff. Now that you can't help us publicly, watch out!!! loll

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Actually, I'm all for testing marketplace stuff. You're selling that stuff in exchange for [i]money[/i]. So does the RMP finally do more than simply check to see if it unzips right, or is it that there's so much stuff that the queue has gotten that long? /P

I don't have a problem with testing in the MP as long as it's applied equitably.  I'm just saying that, if we can't post links to off-site freebies because they've not been tested and approved by the admins here, and adding the QC "worthiness" requirement in the MP, I think you're going to see a lot of people going to other sites to post their freebies and, perhaps, even selling.  I know that once the time frame for exclusivity has passed for my products here, I'm putting them up on my site for a cheaper price since I won't have to share the profits.

Quote - Acadia, better prepare yourself, you'll be inundated with PMs soon! You were always so helpful in finding stuff. Now that you can't help us publicly, watch out!!! loll

I think I might start a thread at Sixus1 or someplace and when someone is looking for something and I find a link for that item, I'll post it at that site with a response to the post here of:

"psss Check Sixus1 "    lol

www.sixus1media.com/portal/index.php

^ Link to Sixus1media forums

Quote - > Quote - Now this is where the new no link is real unhelpful to the readers of this forum: I read a request for an item and another person responded that said item was in existence, paraphrased, PM sent with link. No offense to the respnder, doing what new TOS states. Others may have been interested in said item but now SOL.

 

That would have been me :)  If you want the link to the site feel free to PM me and I'll shoot it to you.

Yes, I knew that was you but didn't want to say it was you for the aforementioned reason of being bombarded, potentially, with request PMs. Sometimes leading to a posted link leads to a gem that one wasn't aware they could use. Has happened.

I for one am very happy to see Sixus back.

A site that is available to all!

DAD said:

Quote - Bottom line is YOU (R'sity) are trying to control what is or is not allowed to be seen and downloaded by people!

Like that's something new!

pjz99 said:

Quote - I cannot grasp why you would accept the task, much less with the evident happiness you're showing about it.

She's been assimilated...drank the koolaid...had the Rendobotomy!

JOELGAINE said:

Quote - It does look like iron-gloved totalitarianism from the outside.

Welcome to Choatesville...identity papers please!

nruddock said:

Quote - Will links to or details of where to find off site products (i.e. things for sale) still be allowed anywhere outside the Products Showcase forum ?

Don't bet that idea hasn't been kicked around. Wait until September... >:]

xanto said:

Quote - This is a bad time for renderosity to be alienating members with strange rules...

Since when did they start caring about alienating members? They've been doing it for years...most of the time they do it to cull the herd. Gets what they consider to be the malcontents to go elsewhere. Stifle what you can say, what you can create, what you can post, what you can share...pretty soon all that's left are the sheep and the sycophants (no offense intended).

Attached Link: http://mystic-nights.com/

I honestly do not understand the supposed reasons behind this rule (apart from enforcing the marketplace and slowly drying the freestuff section).

Do they FEAR we would sue them because we have followed an external link and found a warez or a virus instead of the wanted freebie?

But EVERY site in this galaxy has a little disclaimer saying: "be aware: if you download something not hosted on this server, we are not responsible for it". And it has always been enough for all.

Okay, if I post a clearly illegal link  ("download free warez here!"), such a disclaimer could be objected, even in a court, and Rendo owners could forbid and delete this links. 

But a freebie? Seems a bit paranoic to me.

P.S. Acadia, now you should seriously think about installing a dedicated payment phone number to answer to link requests from us all. But, please, no more than a couple dollar per minute, ok? Thanks!

Giorgio

Well ...lets all wait now for the Official repley from the boss...
It was weekend and now they can give us a clear answer to the main question
Can we still link to offsite freebee's like we always did.

And then we can use the freebee forum for questions on things posted here at FB section...

Its like this  ...when you join a Soccer club ... you cant push members to talk ONLY about soccer when they are on the club can you ....

so lets wait and see what the awnser is...

Chris

Joel wrote:

Quote - www.sixus1media.com/portal/index.php

^ Link to Sixus1media forums

Hi Joel Are you allowed to post that link? Unless Sixus has been checked out and approved already!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

What will be next, will they ban talk about using poser or 3d rendering in general next? :m_bouncy:

rendo
this is just plain stupid

for years this site has supplied a lot of people with a lot of things..both free and for purchase.  Free inspires purchase items later.

I hope you will listen to your members this time.  There is no need for this.  brycetech.com's DRIVEN has thousands of freebee links in the game...do you plan to check all of those?  I dont think anyone has since DAZ bought it.

BT

We are still discussing this here at the office. I think there has been some confusion on whats what regarding this issue so please hang tight before jumping off the deep end:)

But I do want to say, somebody like say "DAD", I don't understand why you wouldn't take the few seconds to upload your item to the Freestuff area so it can be highlighted?  The majority of people wanting to get some freestuff items are certainly not coming to the forums to get it so you are really doing your freestuff item a dis service unless you don't want that many people having it??  To me the way I see the Freestuff area is its like a "Gallery for Freestuff" the upload process is simple and you just take the link you post here and put it in the appropriate field in the upload page??? I really don't get why someone would rather post a link in a forum thread than put it in a highlighted area specifically for freestuff?

Also one other note, places like Daz or Poserpros, they don't have a freestuff area ONLY a forum right?  Our freestuff area should be seen as the way their forums work, we have an AREA designated to freestuff not just a forum so over there is only ONE place to put your freestuff links, the forums. Here the Freestuff area is where you SHOULD put your links and the forum is an additional area where you can highlight it more..

erm and other freebies?

eg Give away of the Day? Microsoft programs? the Japanese artists like Kazboro that post here? do they all now have to go through testing before we can link to them?

Khai,

I'm referring to freestuff items that a provider makes to give away to the community such as the items in the freestuff area not the things you are referring to above.

Stacey ..you are missing a point ... 
Lets say i find a Great freebee over at DAZ.COM ... and i did like to tell my friends here at R'O 
about the great free "dinomuppet batmobile" ... you cant ask DAZ to sent you the freebee for testing and uploading it into your freebee section now cant we ??

What we CAN do is make a message in the FREEBEE !! forum with a link to the URL of the freebee at DAZ.COM
and thats how its always being ..and thats whats being ruled out now ....

Same with Appolo MAX stuff ..anton is giving a MAJOR freebee to the whole Poser community
And we/He should not be alowed to place a link here anymore ...
That cannot be the way you wanna do a freebee forum do you ?
It NEVER was my idea for the forum ......

Chris

the Japanese artists like Kazboro that post here?

Kazboro makes poser Hair - the best you can get. he does not post here.

as to the rest, we are under the impression we cannot post ANY freebies whatever they are.

So you are referring to links to freebies that are NOT yours correct?

Just an FYI that I have to leave the office in a few minutes for an appt.  So if I don't respond you will know I'm not ignoring you:)

As I stated originally, there was some miscommunication and we (admin) haven't made a final ruling on freestuff links posted that are not in our Freestuff area so please hold tight and don't get too worked up yet, lol:)

I translated a dutch saying

You catch more fly's with honey then with vinegar

Rules are like vinegar    

Chris