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CrossDresser

Interesting pricing scheme...

I'll stick with Wardrobe Wizard but that's for the head's up.

I already did a full review of it, and did a lot of testing of it. and posted my findings over at Philc's site at: www.philc.net/forum/viewtopic.php
CrossDresser is really good. Wardobe Wizard is slightly better,IMO, because you can do more with it, and it supports more figures.  Details at links above^

Quote - I'll stick with Wardrobe Wizard but that's for the head's up.

Me to. WW has a dumptruck of Free Figure support.
I think it's only about $5.00 for Unsupported figures isn't it?

I.M.H.O., PhilC is hands down one of the best anywhere when it comes to Customer Support.

It looks like you pay $7.95 per month to use it and then $9.97 per Figure. I do not see any Figure Listed that I use .

Cheers
DR

Hey, Dennis, how long are you on shore for this time?  Good to see you around!

I have WW too, have never perfected any items on it sadly. Even the most converted of all outfits the MFD giggles. But, trying this CrossDresser is perfect for someone like me, mainly because I am lazy/lack-of-time to read, too much on how-to's & fidget, twiddle and forever a novice.
So far the items I have converted, which was actually an old V2 outfit by BVH, in chain's and had jewels to V4, came out wonderful. I like the fact that I didn't have to load a figure into Poser then switch again to another model for conversation. Was just a simple load and click directly from the software thingy. As for the pricing, 'I think' if I understood it correctly, you don't need to pay both types of license just one. So $9.97 for V4. I'm happy at least, got a few extra outfits now for V4 weee..

For simple conversions CrossDresser seems to do a good job. down side and this is on site I believe.. it really messe up existing body handles. I converted a dress I've been testing that had body handles and the converted dress had some but not really usable for the dress.

One question: Mac support? (couldn't find anything on the page offhand...) /P

Have you tried converting male clothing to V4? There are some nice outfits out there that I would like to try on her. Also does it do shoes and boots?
Thanks,
Marque

According to the website - known issues, does not convert any clothing that covers the head, hands or feet.

Haven't tested my results so far. The program itself is simple, it could use a little more stability...

It throws everything hand and finger-wise into the forearm group. It does the same kind of thing with the foot and toes to the shin group.

The software works very well. The only problem I have is that it needs to go online and verify your license for it to work, so if the software maker goes bye bye so does your software.

This programme converted the outfit I chose Ok to V3 - Aiko's ElfDance Charmed Dress, but it doesn't convert any morphs, so isn't really that functional.

On the upside, it pushed me to try WW again & success LOL. Converted the dress & pants of the Charmed set to V3 - see above piccie.

If this new programme had some morph capabilities, it would be worth it, because it is very easy to use, but without it, for me anyway, it is not very useful.

Quote - One question: Mac support? (couldn't find anything on the page offhand...) /P

On some point I found a short paragraph on system requirements and it did list
all Microsoft systems, nothing else.
So I guess, no Mac support.

Download is just a .exe, that looks like PC only as well.

Suffers from the same problem as many third party Poser products; poor interface. First appearances do count!

mariner - no, you can access all figures for the subscription, but not distribute your conversions.  you can  buy conversions to a  single figure, and then you can redistribute.  so you don't have to pay for new figures unless you want to clothe them.  you can always convert from the whole list.

i don't see how it handles morphs.  that's what got me to purchase WW.  i've never found a tool more automatic for fitting morphed figures, and i mostly use figures with capsces morphs.  i mean, can you imagine clothes converted to apollo, but only  default apollo?  i realize there's some way to transfer ADS to clothes, but....

i've had mixed results with WW, which is to be expected.  clothes with lots of pieces and layers, like Clipsidera and Uzilite base, just didn't work for me.  if this has some algorithm that deals with those better than WW, i could see using them together.

I've been using both with great results.  It's a tool that does some things better than WW.  WW does plenty of things better than XD.  It's another tool, and it does work fairly well. ^__^ V,,

XD has just gotten started and there's room for improvement. Compared to all the other clothing convertors (except WW) it's head and sholders above the crowd.

I've found you MUST be online when using this, at least in trial mode. Otherwise it won't let you select clothing to modify. Also it seems to be set up to use the normal Poser file system. I have multiple runtimes and when I selected items from anything other than the main runtime I kept getting ".obj not found" errors. It would not let me point it at the correct folder; I had to install Vicky's MFD into Poser's own runtime before I could convert it.

Quote - I've found you MUST be online when using this, at least in trial mode. Otherwise it won't let you select clothing to modify. Also it seems to be set up to use the normal Poser file system. I have multiple runtimes and when I selected items from anything other than the main runtime I kept getting ".obj not found" errors. It would not let me point it at the correct folder; I had to install Vicky's MFD into Poser's own runtime before I could convert it.

I used an external runtime, but made it just for this.

Hm, I never thought of that. Must try it out.

You can never have enough useful utilities. You can never know when you need a back up or one might get something a certain way you like over the other. Great to see Apollo support coming which is great.

I really think it is important o support these thing. Without people making things there is nothing to use so I would say just say "whoohoo!" :)

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I really think it is important o support these thing. Without people making things there is nothing to use so I would say just say "whoohoo!" :)

I totally agree.  It's nice to have options available because as seen here, not everyone can get results with the same program.

I've downloaded this and will give it a try :)

EDIT: Insomniaworks also has conversion programs.  I Beta tested these and they work very well.

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=insomniaworks

It's been awhile since I've used it, but I think it kept the morphs.  You would have to PM InsomniaWorks to check for sure though.[

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You need to add your external runtimes.  I have upteen of them and it worked fine for all that I added.   Go to Options/Settings/browse the runtime you wish to add.

I agree, it's nice to have choices - while I love Phil's WW, this one is very very easy to use.

:)

Anton wrote:

Quote - You can never have enough useful utilities.

I agree. ^^
I am a Mega Huge Wardrobe Wizard fan. I use Poser on the Mac.

But people who use Daz|Studio do not have Wardrobe Wizard since it runs inside Poser. For those people, CrossDresser will open up simple conversion possiblties they couldn't get with Clothing Converter or Tailor.

Unfortunately, Mac users of Daz|Studio still don't have an option for clothing conversion. For them, I recommend switching to Poser for the Mac and getting Wardrobe Wizard.

I'm running a test right now in CD on a work machine to see how it works. It's an interesting approach.

p.s. I really like F202 Dollie and Anime Doll are included, but wish Hiro3 were in there too. Hiro has some kicking outfits, and so does M3. They should try borrowing each other's clothes, imho ;)

bB

I agree. I love the free trial approach. I just wish there was at least one other male adult figure to test on. 

I'm looking forward to support for Apollo being added. I would think that the greatest market for any conversion utility would first be virtually unsupported figures such as F202 Dollie, but right after that I would think the male figures would be the next  biggest market group.

Yeah, we need David & Hiro & The Freak, for starters.  Really nice there's a free trial too. But at about $10 a license, this thing ain't gonna come cheap.

Okay I just polished off a few High Res conversions.  I converted BatLab's Miko outfit for V3 to M3, Royloo's Laura kimono to M3, and the jacket and collar from Lady Little Fox's Aiko Infamous to M3.

I haven't had the chance to test to the cr2s to see how they pose or look on M3 yet, but I have opened the new objs in Uvmapper and STOMP.  The conversion itself looks very smooth, much smoother than any converter thus far. This is a huge plus... I cannot understate just how big a plus this is.  oO

Having said that though, it is aways hard to convert from female to male because of the chest. The items that I converted still have a female looking chest even though it is reshaped to M3. This is not bad though. I can polish off the conversions in Blacksmith. The objs will need their look masculinized anyway.

I can easily see myself converting clothes while I'm working. Conversion happens in the background. This is a huge time saver.

And here's the really wild part.  I don't think the newly created objs have their original morphs anymore. However, adding morphs to clothing is a snap with Wardrobe Wizard.

So..... This could be my new clothing conversion process (yes I am over-the-top nitpicky):

1. Do a high res conversion in CrossDresser.
2. Take new objs in Uvmapper, weld vertices, smooth normals by material. (for Blacksmith)
3. Take obj into STOMP, reorder obj by materials. (for faster poser renders)
       A) If it is a conversion from Female to Male, take obj into Blacksmith and masculinize.
4. Open Poser, open Wardrobe Wizard. Convert clothing from Default figure to Morphed figure.

Wala! The best of all worlds! ^^
I will test this method tonight.

bB

Don't have Blacksmith, what else can do the masculinizing? I have C5 and Hex -- though I've never been able to make headway with that one.

You can do it in Hexagon, no problem. If there are nipple shapes in the top, or cleavage, that will need to be smoothed down for a more manly look.

I just finished converting the Infamious Bustle to M3.  This one had an error though, the vertices went spikey on the bottom right side.  I've already converted this to M3 in Blacksmith, but still I like to compare my work to what Wardrobe Wizard and CrossDresser can do.

bB

Speaking of tools, one would have to assume you could use XD and then inject morphs using one of the neterworks packages (if they have one for your target figure). I have not used XD yet, but I read where the morphs get lost or don't make it across. This would be could be a solution if I understand the processes at hand.

I was also wondering about using The Tailor to put the morphs back. Seems like someone said something about injecting the morphs back in with Morph Manager and the dials spun to no effect...? That's why I'm looking forward to the conclusion of BastBlack's experiment.

Morph Manager won't work here because CrossDresser regroups the mesh.

Quote - Morph Manager won't work here because CrossDresser regroups the mesh.

There is an option to not regroup the clothing. If you do that then morph manager works just fine.

I'm getting much better results with Crossdresser than I ever got with Wardrobe Wizard. WW almost always crumpled the mesh and never look as good as the original. CrossDresser preserves things like buckles, rings, and other surface details.

I converted M3's Sade outfit to Aiko 3 and it work very well. The biggest tip I have is to not regroup the mesh if at all possible. The regrouping causes problems with Aiko's hip group and pants. The hip group includes part of the upper inner thigh and causes ugly stretching when you use side-side on her legs. Not regrouping will minimize this.

Did not see that checkbox. Will go try it again. Er, soon as I get Morph Manager.  Been trying all day but can't download it, all I see is a page of gibberish whenever I click on the link.

That is such a great fit, and it looks wonderful on him....

The internal junkie in me is already hard at work justifying why I'm going to end up forking out more money for my addiction... 

Hmmn... WW is $60, I can get support licenses for 6 figures for 60 bucks... surely I can narrow down the menagerie to 6 figures... Oh, who will make the cut?

As you can see the bottom of the jacket has disappeared & the top of the pants.

Attached Link: Animation of this dress 4MB Quicktime

Wardrobe Wizard fan here....

Jessie red dress converted onto a somewhat morphed V4.  WW Only.

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What is Evilinnocence?

It is a who, not a what LOL - http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=EvilInnocence

Just did another trial & sucessfully modified the A3 charmed set including morphs - tranfered with morph manager. Wasn't successful with the shoe - or rather I should say I wasn't - it seemed to do the mesh ok, but as the feet default states are different, could not work out how to fix.

Quote - It looks like you pay $7.95 per month to use it and then $9.97 per Figure.

Yeah! That ain't happening to my wallet.

Quote - > Quote - It looks like you pay $7.95 per month to use it and then $9.97 per Figure.

Yeah! That ain't happening to my wallet.

I don't see any monthly charge for the software. In fact the page says that there is no cost for the program. There was a 1 month license for a figure for 7.95 and a one day liscence for $1, but those options aren't listed anymore.

I'll stick to WW, I don't fancy paying $10 for each figure I do want to use. This will turn out to be an expensive deal in the end.

More options helps everyone.

What doesn't help is saying "no thanks", "I'm not buying", etc etc etc. I never understood what posting that type of stuff was supposed to accomplish.

Something as advanced as a clothing convertor is no small task or feat. And you never know how it will expand or develop. I think everyone likes WW, but I don't think people have to take sides and make a vocal choice.

If not financially supporting both, then why not just give moral support to both? I'm telling ya, without support, at least verbal, for new endevors and those that try, the long term choices are going to get far and few....

*If not financially supporting both, then why not just give moral support to both? I'm telling ya, without support, at least verbal, for new endevors and those that try, the long term choices are going to get far and few....
*I don't see a point in financially supporting both.... I'm not here to financially support others, I myself cannot afford that, so I'm buying what I need. As for moral support that's another issue. I don't see a point in supporting something morally if I cannot agree with the price being asked. In the end if this application will support all the figures I do own, it will cost me at least $150. Sorry to say so, that doesn't excite me at all and I can't morally support that.

Quote - I'm not here to financially support others...I don't see a point in supporting something morally if I cannot agree with the price being asked. ...Sorry to say so, that doesn't excite me at all and I can't morally support that.

If you are not in this thread to financially or morally support this artist, then why post? Are you wanting to send the artist a message or encourage others to think this is bad for them in some way? Explain it to me because I don't get the purpose.

Anton - i can see your point, but as i've said many times in many different places, a merchant or even just advertiser should be glad when people care enough to say why they're not going to buy or don't want a product.  usually finding that out costs five to seven figures.  then it's up to them.  but i find that without feedback, merchants and advertisers guess entirely wrong about what they've done wrong.  here it's been pretty consistent: people don't like the pricing scheme.  now when i looked it was explicitly not what people are saying.  you could either get all figures for a monthly fee or get one figure permanently for a fairly small fee.  and the per figure price is only a little higher than the WW per figure price.  so if no one said anything, if  i were the merchant, i'd assume low sales came from feature set or functionality, not a price scheme that's comparable to the popular WW.   and the base price is free.  i mean, UTC, d|s, etc. all suggest that the pricing scheme wouldn't be a problem. 

but here's where the feedback is really helpful.  unlike all those apps, no one feels the base does enough.  WW base includes a huge number of figures.  UTC first took care of the most popular conversion (and unfortunately, didn't go to any non-unimesh figures after that).  and many use plain old d|s without any plugins.  and that doesn't even get into the pure advertizing issue of people looking at those pricing schemes and thinking they're combined and not separate.  so there's two problems that are _marketing _ fixes and don't require an ounce of new code.  now the merchant can choose not to change anything.   but people have said why.

critical feedback can be helpful in just about anything someone does.  if they choose not to use it to their benefit, then that's their loss.  the poser community is blessed in the sense that 90% of the time if something has a big push and people don't like it, tons of people will say exactly why and in detail.  now that doesn't account for the reasoning people aren't aware they're doing, but it's a start and it's free.  marketing research is pretty expensive.

what do people want?  what do people want when they complain that poser crashes, or  say they can't afford the new version of poser so please don't cut out ppp users?  they want to change the market so they have products they want to pay for.  you shouldn't cut people down for providing information to help them become poorer and merchants richer. :m_wink:

I only posted my WW-supporting image and animation to counter tepid or negative comments about it above, not to opposed the creator of Cross Dresser (great title, by the way).

That Jessie dress now fits V4 perfectly and realistically. However, I had to 'fiddle' quite a bit, including using the MorphBrushTool in P7. The point being....converting clothing is not "magic" and anyone dismissing either of the two products because the results were not automatic and instant is misrepresenting the reality.

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