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Subject: Poser "Ancient Mythology" Tarot Deck - Interested?


Ironbear ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:15 AM

Whichever it is, lets us make it a full deck. Way too many people playing without one in some parts. ;]

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dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:20 AM

i agree why dont we just do some quick renders of some borders for a start post em here and then we all vote to wich ones should be used that way nobody`s nose gets put out of joint what do you think


Ironbear ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:24 AM

Hrmmm... excellent job on the web page, DM. Very sharp, and fast too. ;]

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nikitacreed ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:28 AM

Oooh....I missed alot. Serves me right for sleeping. LOL! I like Dolly's idea about us being slapped with something that goes against our talents...with me that would be....EVERYTHING. LOL! Actually....my weakest point is scenery and backgrounds. Yep...I suck at them...so I usually skip them. I still take "The World" though...if Dee wants me to do a minor arcana too...that's fine.:o) BTW: How long do we have to turn out this image? Is there a time limit?


dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:39 AM

ive just had a look and i love the celtic, and the shakespear ones i would love to do the six of orbs one


Chas ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 7:16 AM

Hmm. (Another one of those). Do we want to put a cup, sword, wand and pentacle in the free stuff so that the ones used in the suits are consistent? Also, with the mythological theme of the cards, will there be any room for anachronisms? I would think that at least the royals (because they represent various "Gods") could have the occasional time-misplaced item at their disposal, provided those items add to the symbology of the card. Not something as outlandish as an electronic item or such, of course. Part of my thinking is that if a character is sitting on a stool, the person rendering it may not be able to find an antique or particularily Grecian stool, but something that can pass. Lastly, with the Queen of Cups, the interpretations I'm familiar with denote more of a peaceful, cool, placid and sometimes even icy figure. The dreamy aspect is there, of course, but it is neither positive nor negative. For example, she could at once be envisioning wonderful things while in repose, and/or she could be dreaming her life away and closed to reality. This sort of fits with what you have, but "coquettish" is a little different from what I'm accustomed to (I always thought she was supposed to be a little cold, i.e. the icy state of water). Let me know if anyone disagrees there, before I start.


dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 7:17 AM

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Right do you think this is ok for say the pagon or what ever . its only a quicky but it might look alright with the designs in them tell us what you think


tankred ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 8:12 AM

LOVE THE IDEA! I am Pagan BTW and I am VERY familiar with the Tarot as I use I alot. What I was wondering was is there nudity involved or is that up to the artist? The Rider-Waite is a standardized deck and it take imagery from all mythologies. I have several decks, but my favourite is The Dragon Traot. Nothing but dragons! Love it. Anyway, I would also like to get a "standard" border done.Dolly's is great but I would have thought for a little more pizzaz (as he thinks furoiusly). Unfortunately, there are so many different decks of Tarot it is difficult to pin down just one "style". I will think of something. BTW, where are we going to post all of these pictures? In the galleries? I think that is where the playing cards are. Love those too! I will go to Dee's site and see what is taken already. Tankred.


dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 8:13 AM

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what about this for the egyption theme just another quickey they are only suggestions mind tell me what you think


Lorraine ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 8:45 AM

Oh goody, while I sleep everyone dreams up the tarot idea...I want to play too!...I have done some tarot images and I would like to do some more stuff...you know rather than get too detailed in the mythology thing, maybe the idea could focus around a series much like the playing card ideas....that is focusing on just figures.. such as was done in the Aquarian deck; ...as far as the basic configuration of the cards for those who don't know there are 21 majors, 4 suits or minors ace through 10, 4 sets of 4 court cards.(court sets vary as to the 4 cards...king queen princess/page knight)....since there are basically three general systems, Rider-Waite, Thoth or Golden Dawn, French (Waite or Papus)...why not allow all of the variations to come into play that would increase the number of cards people could choose from.... I will do Hermit to start...this will be fun


Dreamspinner ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 9:59 AM

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What about this for the Back of the Decks? *S* Verdie


dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 10:04 AM

very nice it would look lovely


Dreamspinner ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 10:04 AM

I could make it a tad fancier, if you like it. Dolly I LOVE that FIRST Border that you made, might like to try that out myself for some! Verdie of Dreamspinner


Dreamspinner ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 10:08 AM

Hey Liz has that Dragon Deck and it's GREAT!!! She also has and Egyptian Deck, but we are rather disappointed in it. Verdie of Dreamspinner


dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 10:11 AM

i dont even know what the cards are im waiting for dee to see what we are doing as its her idea


Poppi ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 10:42 AM

I would like to join in, as well. I am not sure who has taken what card from what deck, however. BTW...I love that first background, Dolly. Guess I'm gonna have to dust off Bryce for this challenge.


dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 10:49 AM

thanks poppie if you want it email me and il send it you ricky.dolly@ntlworld.com


Poppi ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 11:28 AM

Thanks...I did.


Poppi ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 11:44 AM

Okay...so that didn't work. I like the first two, actually. My email is Poppibird 1@cs.com Thank you.


dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 11:44 AM

Right im still waiting and i want to know what the cards are and what one we are going to do please someone fill me in on the cards


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 12:15 PM

WOW!!! ROFL I just woke up (told you I was tired!!!) and sorry the messages backed up so much. Let me go through and make up a list of volunteers. I'll see if I can shake out a plan. Dolly I like that first border very much ... has a real mystical feel to it! The "twin deck" concept is sort of cool ... that way people can use the deck that they prefer. How about the R/W deck for the standard deck, and the Golden Dawn for the Hermetic? (Crowley might be a bit too racy ... hehehe). I'll update the Web pages to reflect the particulars and the descriptions involved for each deck, along with the appropriate numbers. Ironbear ... hmmmm ... my only other guess on "Rejuvenation" is that it might relate to the Wheel of Fortune? Or, better yet, can you send me a list of the Major Arcana from that deck of yours and I'll see if I can figure it out? 8-) Chas - go with the queen concept you are familiar with. I'll address the rest in a bit!!!! Dee



lynde ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 12:37 PM

Can i do the Page of Pentacles? if not I guess I would like the 10 of pentacles instead if it's available..:)

hugs to all lynde


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 1:08 PM

Just to confirm the list of participants so far, before I start making some assignments ... So far, I count in the following: AprilYSH, Chas, myself, Dolly, Dreamspinner, Ghostofmacbeth, Ironbear, Lalverson, Lorraine, Lynde, Morris, Nikitacreed, Picnic, Poppi, Szeven, Tankred, TheWolfWithin, and Wizard. That's 18 folks so far who will each get a Major and Minor Arcana card (stay tuned for the assignments). That means there are only a few Major Arcanas left after the assignments, so newer folks may need to go with one or two of the Minor arcana. If I've left anyone out of the list, speak now or forever hold your peace 8-) Dee



DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 1:55 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=54248&Start=1&Sectionid=0&Form.Search=dreamspinner

Verdie ... In going through your gallery, I found an image that you posted that I think REALLY fits the mood of a tarot deck. The Crystal Ball image, given the mystical colors and feel of the image, seems absolutely perfect for the card backs (in my opinion!) ... I've posted the link here so that folks can take a peek. How about if we use a similar color scheme for the card borders? As for final size, seems many tarot decks go with 2-3/4" by 4-3/4", which works out to 413 x 713 pixels when printed out at 150 DPI. Let's go with that 8-) Denise



dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 1:58 PM

i agree that would look exellent as the backof the cards so what do you suggest for the border as we all have to have the same oh and have you chose the cards for each individual


Traveler ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 2:00 PM

You could use 5 different border designs, one for each of the suits, and one for the Major arcana. :) I am interested in the project, and would be happy to model the 4 basic props (Swords, Wands/Staves, Pentacles/Coins, and Cups) for the project. -Trav


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 2:04 PM

Wooooooo hoooooooo!!!!! Way to go, Trav! 8-) You better do at least one card too! 8-) Dolly --- still working on the list. It's not easy doing the pickings here (I'm still going through the galleries to get a feel for people's style). What really MIGHT help, though, is if folks haven't picked a card from the Minor Arcana yet (the A through K cards), at least give a preference whether you'd like Egyptian (Wands), Grecian (Cups), Roman (Swords) or Celtic/Pagan (Pentacles). Thanks much! 8-) Dee



dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 2:05 PM

well seeing as im a brit i should go for the pagan if thats ok


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 2:12 PM

Dolly ... assuming it's cool with Verdie that we go with the Crystal Ball (or something similar), you know what might work for the card backs? Instead of making the crytal ball circular, we can make it more elliptical, and scale it so that it fills a little bit more of the center of the card. The character or scene can then be superimposed within that crystal ball area (might be kind of cool .... comments?) Now, perhaps then you can add a slight border around the solid purple area (blacks, golds, silvers, etc) - either a generic one, or one for each culture (Egyptian, Roman, Greek and Pagan?) Sound cool? Denise



DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 2:15 PM

correction ... card borders, not card backs. The idea above was for the backgrounds of the cards themselves, I LOVE this Crystal Ball thing (or something similar!) for the card backs. 8-) Denise



dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 2:21 PM

sounds ok to me ask verdie then get a pic so we can all have the start


Traveler ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 2:47 PM

Attached Link: http://www.facade.com/tarot/

For anyone that isn't familiar with the Tarot, or just want to look at some cards, the above site has cool online readings, with a bunch of different decks available. All for free. Dee: Of course I will do a card or two :) -Trav


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 2:54 PM

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Here's a kludged card background concept, based on Verdie's Crystal Ball image. Verdie and Dolly, I'll leave the final designs up to you, these are just some ideas to get you started. Final card size will be 413 x 713 ... perhaps make the backs and fronts double size (826 x 1426) and then we can scale them down for the final card postings. 8-) Dee



DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 3:45 PM

Folks, this wasn't easy. Please bear in mind that the selections I've made here mean NOTHING personal ... I assigned some of the tougher ones based on images that I've seen posted in the gallery and where I think the artist might fit best overall. If you don't like your assignment, there are still a few Major cards free, or you can select one of the Minor arcana instead. OK, here we go ... The Fool - Picnic (you do nice male characters!) The Magician - Wizzard (for obvious reasons ..hehehe) The High Priestess - that's mine The Empress - lynde The Emperor - Poppi (your Egyptian series was the deciding factor here) The Hierophant - Dreamspinner (your images have that true mystical quality) The Lovers - Ironbear, if we can't figure out where your selection falls, you did request this at one point. I'll keep it reserved for you until we figure this out. The Chariot - tankred (I couldn't find any gallery images for you ???) Strength -GhostOfMacbeth The Hermit - Lorraine The Wheel of Fortune (is this Ironbear's rejuvenation?) Justice - Szeven The Hanged Man - not assigned yet Death - TheWolfWithin Temperance - Lalverson The Devil - Chas The Tower - Dolly The Star - Traveler The Moon - AprilYSH (a challenge for you, but you have some gorgeous watery images, I thought it would fit!) The Sun - Morris Judgement - not assigned yet The World - nikitacreed Go design your ideas Denise



Traveler ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 4:20 PM

How about "Ars Fortunae" For to the project name? It roughly means the Art of Fortune in Latin.


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 4:27 PM

Sounds good to me!!!!!! 8-) I forgot to mention -- Verdie and Dolly, when you have the card backs and backgrounds worked up, can you post them here? BTW - Traveler has GRACIOUSLY offered to host some pages and files for this project at Morph World - I don't really have an area to set up downloads and stuff. Eventually, we'll move the associated project info from my site over to there to keep it all in the same place. Thanks Trav!!!!! 8-) Dee



DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 4:52 PM

I've received a couple of requests in this thread and through email to provide a layered version of the card background image (Photoshop format would probably be best). Traveler will host this file at Morph World so that folks can download it. I guess that means the border, number area, and page name area would have to be on their own layers for sure ... the rest is up for debate ;-) Verdie and Dolly, when you finish the backgrounds/borders can you email them to me or Traveler as well? Thanks! Denise



Traveler ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 4:53 PM

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How is this for a project "Logo"


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:02 PM

VERY cool!!! LOVE the font and the colors 8-) Dee



dolly ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:30 PM

I like it looks good


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:46 PM

Uh ... what do we do when a thread starts to get really long and we want to start up another one to continue? I can imagine the size of this page already ;-) Dee



Traveler ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 5:55 PM

Attached Link: http://morphs.bbay.com/ars/index.html

Ok, The basic pages are up. The props should be ready tonight or tomorrow morning. I will post another message when they are ready :) -Trav


DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 6:10 PM

Fabulous! I've updated the link on my original page to point to the new site. 8-) Dee



Xena ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 6:37 PM

Ok, finally finished reading this thread s. I own the Egyptian deck that Dee posted way back when and I'm a pagan too so I have a pretty good working knowledge of the Tarot. Anyway, I'd LOVE to join in and if it still isn't taken I'd really like to do the Wheel of Fortune. This card sybolises so much for me. Woohoo, this is such a wonderful idea :) Xena


Dreamspinner ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 6:42 PM

Okay now that I'm TOTALLY LOST.... I thought you wanted my Crystal Ball pic for the BACK of the Cards. Being of a highly Celtic family background myself I rather like the idea of the Pagan Deck, but also have no idea to be honest what I'm talking about when it comes to Tarot as Liz and Ana read them and I do not. LOL Gonna have to look up the one assigned to me. YIKES!! Might have to get Dolly to help me put mine together as I'm not proficient enough in psp or Paintshop Pro to do all of the required cut and pasting in this. Love your idea with my Crystal Ball pic but I REALLY LIKE Dolly's Border!! Verdie of Dreamspinner, the temporarily lost one.


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 6:51 PM

Thans, glad I peeked .. gotta figure out what the strength thing looks like .. thanks



DCArt ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 6:52 PM

Xena - Glad you're in! Looks like the Wheel of Fortune is for you! Verdie -- Yes, we'll use the original crystal ball (or something similar if you'd rather do something special ) for the backs of the cards. But I thought it would also be cool to modify it slightly so that we could also use it for the front of the card as well. That way there would be a similar look and feel on back and front. That image is absolutely perfect! (The Hierophant, by the way, is associated with divine wisdom, teaching, alliances, intutition, etc ... I have always envisioned him/her as someone who has that perfected "inner knowing of Truth, whatever Truth may be ;-) But if my interpretation is wrong I'm sure someone will pipe up. 8-) If necessary, Traveler or I can work up the layered image based on the stuff that you and Dolly put together. No problem. 8-) Denise



Dreamspinner ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 6:56 PM

Yes, Eric that is BEAUTIFUL and guess I know who likes BLUE, but it's very elegant looking, almost a flaming diamond look . Thank you for being such a great help!!! Verdie of Dreamspinner


Dreamspinner ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 7:00 PM

Oh, I see what you mean now and how totally COOL!! LOL Told ya I was LOST. LOL What about my Keeper of Wisdom Poser Figure, as I have several different versions of her? Is she supposed to be like doing anything on the card face? Verdie of Dreamspinner


Xena ( ) posted Sat, 19 May 2001 at 7:02 PM

Well then s on that not....anyone know where I can find a good spoked wheel prop? Obj or 3ds. I'm off to check 3D Cafe now.


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