Tristan for A3???    What are we going to get next?   Presumably, Thor for V4 is already in the pipeline, along with Casanova for A3 and Rocky for the G2 Women.  I thought Sydney was a pretty silly name for the P7 lady;   I think that that was "inspired" by a particular TV series (but it's still daft).

I must say that I've nothing against the "Tristan" set, beyond its idiotic name.  I have acres of Aikos whom I barely use nowadays, so I am not tempted by this new one.   Apart from the name, though,  "Tristan" looks great.

Well and roundly spake Sir Tristram, as he smote about him both on the right hand and on the left:

"Thou shalt not abscond mine name for thy foul purposes, maugre thine head!  For I wilt hie thee off to Copyright Court!"

And thence came out all they of the Castle, astonied at the battle that followed therewith; to behold upon them what terrible deeds and mighty shouldst transpire in the nounce.

"So that - that - and THAT to thee!  Thou base fellow!" cried Sir Tristram.  I allow not thy great folly against my mien!  I forbid such abuse!  For thou are but a churl, and no true knight!"

And thus did Sir Tristram, noble of knighhood: encompass and defend his name and his honour, that it be not put to nought and to black use with nay permission to knaves.

(With apologies to Sir Thomas Malory)

:giggles at xeno: Oh, that hit the spot... thanks, mate! :)

JonTheCelt

Whats wrong with the name Tristan? Actually you take one letter off that name and you have my oldest daughters name, and I seriously dont think it would be idiotic.

Quote - :giggles at xeno: Oh, that hit the spot... thanks, mate! :)

JonTheCelt

Great bit of parody, Xeno, and thought-provoking.  

A pretty pass we've come to indeed ...  the notion of defending the 
honor of the family name, which formerly helped to control wayward 
youngsters, is long gone.  

Now the only names we defend are the names of digital characters.

As long as I can get Isolde for V3..;)

and Pakled, whenever I finish my free character pack you'll be able to get  "Ram'slutte for V3"

That's it, if I ever make a character morph, I'm not naming it!
Maybe I'l just giv'em serial numbers! ;)

Nope, numbers won't help unless you get into 8 or 9 digits.  
Most of the "memorable" numbers like 1234 or 999 are
already trademarked!

Yah my daughters name is Sydne and I rather like it too...

On the other hand I think names like Bert and Homer are kinda goofy;  Im also not a big fan of bell  bottoms or platform shoes.

I am guessing that Pakled's reference to Isolde has cleared certain people's heads by several thousand feet (especially that of jumpstartme2).   Tristan is male, Isolde female.   It's a very famous love story.   I'd say that "Tristan for A3"  makes as much sense as "Romeo for A3", but I suspect that that would be lost on certain of the contributors above, too.   "Juliet" for Apollo, anyone?  

I wonder if jumpstartme2's daughter is called "Trista"?   The Portuguese word "triste", which isn't pronounced all that differently, means "miserable".   Odd choice.

And jjroland, if you will insist on naming your daughters after cities in Australia, may I recommend Adelaide?   It did, at least, start out as a girl's name (wife of William IV) and there's even a song by Beethoven with the same name, although I suspect he had a different Adelaide in mind.

Actually, it didn't go over my head..I just happen to see nothing wrong about the name and the gender its connected to. Also, depending on where one is in the world, Tristan might possibly be a females name.

Trista has 9 variant forms: Tristan, Tristana, Tristen, Tristin, Tristina, Tristyn, Trysta, Trystan and Trystin.

Maybe we can talk the creator into slapping an extra 'a' on that name so we can sleep :laugh:

Name genders are changing, I have a niece called Charlie ;-)

Also, personally I like Sydney as a girls name, but the name has more connotations as a city rather than a boys name for me, living just south of said city LOL

hmm..sydne  is a cool name. A city in australia?  no  Morgano thats "Sydney" . I like the name trista
too. I picked Sara  no "h"  more uncommon in a name.

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Me too

As far as gender/name stuff goes, just before my sister was born, they thought they were having a boy, so had the name Charles picked out...when they discoved she was a she..they just added and switched some letters, and now she is Charlsie ;)

Well, ten years ago, my eighty-two year old Aunt Sidney passed away. So Sidney (Sydney) as a girl is not a recent occurence.

Personally, I'm holding out for Lothario for S3.  :biggrin:

Trstan though could be a male name and why not jodi as a boys name that has been used before.

I like that too Jumpy, "Charlsie". Not a common name and Unique.

Right, if I put up a character it's going to be named "AntoniaTiger's $_CHARACTER", and I don't care if I do DEF $_CHARACTER to match somebody else's product. Sheesh, guys, don't you have any pride in your own name?

:giggle: Life ain't easy for a boy named Sue ...

lol @ Byrdie

I always thought the solution there was simple. If he'd spelled it  "S-i-o-u-x" and explained it as a nickname, it likely would've caused less hassle.

Then again, Johnny Cash would have had nothing to sing about. Oh well ...

Quote - Yah my daughters name is Sydne and I rather like it too...

On the other hand I think names like Bert and Homer are kinda goofy;  Im also not a big fan of bell  bottoms or platform shoes.

Yeah that's it pick on the bell bottom pants and platform shoes I'm totally offended now!!!

*""Then again, Johnny Cash would have had nothing to sing about.""
*And that my friends would have been the real tragedy.

Whatever happened to names like Jane & Mary?  I think that antique names like that went out along with the Studebaker.  Nowadays, everyone is naming their daughters Paris -- after a city in France.

For us guys -- perhaps we should begin to re-adopt Roman monikers for ourselves.  I'll take Quintus Marcus Gracchus Simplicius.  It has a certain ring to it.  I'll also take the title of quaestor.

My wife's name -- of course -- would need to be Quieta.

I personally didn't pick my daughters name.   I had wanted something like Emily actually - but after 24 hours of labor with no pain killers when the time to name the baby came - I was out of it and told my mother to choose the name.  I don't believe my mom was thinking about the city; not sure.  My sons are Michael and Justin - so I stayed normal most of the way.

Either way  - everyone calls the girl "Bug" anyway - so to her - the real name is probably preferable

BTW - Paris was the name of a guy.  He caused a lot of trouble.

Perhaps there is something in a name, after all.....................

For the record, Xeno, my two daughters' names are Katrina May and Nicola Sophie... adorable brats they are too! So you see, some of us out here in Poserland do still hang on to traditional naming... erm.. traditions. lol

JonTheCelt

thanks xeno!! i now have an image of three "prisoner cell block H" ( old Aussie prison-drama, with wobbly walls, and usually the woman with the biggest "pillows" was in charge)  type Muses trying to win the heart of Miss Hilton, stuck in my head!!!

i may not sleep tonight!!!

*hmm..sydne  is a cool name. A city in australia?  no  Morgano thats "Sydney" . I like the name trista
too. I picked Sara  no "h"  more uncommon in a name.

I mentioned "Sydney" and jjroland countered with her remark about "Sydne".   It was jjroland who equated "Sydne" with "Sydney", not me.   Once she had done so, I made a light-hearted reference to Oz.    For the record, I like the name Adelaide and I like Beethoven's song, too.

Also, depending on where one is in the world, Tristan might possibly be a female's name.
*Well, perhaps you could enlighten us on the current thinking on this subject where you are, in the People's Republic of Bozo?

Less polemically, "Sydne" is preferable to "Bug" (which seems pretty unfair, if that's Sydne in the picture).   The problem with a name like "Sydne" is that no-one is sure how it is pronounced.   Well, not no-one, since I am sure Sydne and her folks know, but she is going to have to explain the pronunciation zillions of times in her decades ahead.

There's a Celtic name which is written as Sean in Irish and Sion in Welsh (I think that the correct spelling has accents in both cases, but my keyboard/browser/codepage/whatever doesn't run to that).   That's the boy's name.   I don't know what the female version is in Irish (Siobhan?);  the Welsh is Sian (accent missing, again, pronounced "Shahn", more or less, with a long "A", second "H" not sounded).   Sean/Sion is often written "Shaun" by English-speakers and often, in the US, given to girls.   I long ago knew a boy who had been christened "Sean" by his parents, but he and, presumably, they didn't know how it was meant to be pronounced, so the poor lad went through his formative years thinking that he was called "Seen".   

Sian is a lovely name, in common with many of the female names from Wales, but has the same problem as "Sydne".   There have probably been enough vaguely prominent holders of the name at large in Britain for people to know how to pronounce it, but I bet Sians have to put up with "Sy-Anne" when they visit other English-speaking countries, never mind non-English-speaking ones.

Polemically, again:  suggestions for new female character-names:  Gilgamesh, Rameses, Napoleon, Derek, Eric, Harald, Harold, Ivan, Taliesin, Attila.   Don't worry that these may seem strange, because Jumpstartme2 definitely has a sister, or a cousin, or an aunt with one or more of these names and will race to your defence.

What's in a name ? A rose by any other .... Yes, cute Aiko character but to my ears Tristan is just oriented towards being a boys name. Kinda like naming a girl Dwight. Now I can't stop thinking of Tristan and Isolde as a lesbian couple. Hehe , Morgano, I bagsie "Attila" (which was also the name of my sons beloved female hamster) as the name for the sword wielding amazon V4 character I may release someday... Followed by a sex-kitten Aiko elf character called 'Eric'

Quote - ... in the People's Republic of Bozo?

My sympathy. On the one hand, we have every right to name our kids anything we like, as long as we keep in mind that the kid has every right -- or should have -- to change the name to something else. We named our son after Christopher Smart's cat and a rock formation in New Mexico. If he'd been a girl, his name would have been Jennifer Chimaya. When he was four, he asked me to change his name to Bill. We stuck with the given name and he's grown into it. Real names are a different matter than names of retail products.

Borrowing "Tristan" for a female poser character is a Bozo-land allusion. It's as silly as naming a Medieval warhorse Excalibur or the god of fire Thor. The maker can argue that he thought the name of Arthur's sword would be an appropriate name for a destrier, but those of us who grew up literate have to wonder if he's covering for his own ignorance. And the evidence certainly points to ignorance.

Obviously, naming the character is supposed to evoke something (or to put it in DAZ-speak, "increase sales"). So, what? There are only two evokable Tristans I know of (and "Tristram" is the original name, still used in Victorian references contemporary to Tennyson. "Tristan" specifically evokes Wagner, who used the odd spelling from a German translation). The other Tristan is a character in Herriot's "Creatures" books, with a brother named Siegfried (thus also a Wagner evocation). I knew a woman named Jennifer (Guinever variant) who married a man named Lance and then named her kid "Tristan." I asked her about the weird coincidence, and it turned out she was thinking of Herriot. The whole thing passed whizzing over her head.

This all reminds me of a great moment of illiteracy in DAZdom, when they marketed a "troubador" holding his traditional "harp." The harp was actually the troubador's traditional lute. When I pointed this out, nobody seemed to care. Why should we, after all? Harp, lute? What's the difference?

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[quote] 

As in Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees?

"On the one hand, we have every right to name our kids anything we like, as long as we keep in mind that the kid has every right -- or should have -- to change the name to something else" Hehe, Zowie Bowie changed his name to Joe. My money is on Brooklyn (Beckham ) changing his name- to just plain Brook maybe ?.... he'll never be able to go NYC until he does . As an ex NewYorker it would be hard for me to keep a straight face if a man told me his name was Brooklyn ; ) There was a UK cleaning product that was marketed in Spain........ the name had to be changed because in Spanish it translated as something quite rude. Unfortunately I can't remember the details but the point is no one checked first. Imo when launching a product it might be better if vendors did a little name check on usage/gender/meanings in a few different languages even if only selling in the Poser Universe. It would just make it all seem a bit more professional. But surely the marketing team here could help ? Also some non-native english speaking vendors could sometime use help when writing their promo blurbs. In light of Rendo wanting the galleries to look more professional ( that was mentioned in the reasons for the thumbnail rule changes I believe ) the marketplace could use help too.

Quote - perhaps we should begin to re-adopt Roman monikers for ourselves. 

Pontius Pilate: I will not have my fwiends widiculed by the common soldiewy. - - Anybody else feel like a little... giggle... when I mention my fwiend... Biggus...
[another guard chuckles]
Pontius Pilate: ... Dickus?
[ more chuckling*]
Pontius Pilate: What about you? Do you find it... wisible... when I say the name... 'Biggus'...
[* chuckle*]
Pontius Pilate: ... Dickus?
[* both guards chuckle*]
Pontius Pilate: He has a wife, you know. You know what she's called? She's called... 'Incontinentia'... Incontinentia Buttocks .....*

Just for clarity here = Sydne is *not * the one in the picture.  That is her brother Justin.  She said that she has never had to correct her name pronounciation - I imagine that most gather what it is from the first letters.

My name on the other hand is Jaci.  My mom says it's pronounced "Jackie" /  my father insists it is pronounced "Ja see".  Now that's a true naming conflict.  No doctors office has ever said "jackie"  when calling my name .  I pretty much just answer when they look in my direction.

This is my favorite female name....from the First Age of Arda....

Idril Celebrindal            also Itarillë (Quenya) Celebrindal

pronounced "EE-drill  kell-AY-brin-dal"
accent on the first syl. of Idril, accent on second syl. of Celebrindal
"Celebrindal" means 'silver-footed'

She was the daughter of Turgon, high king of the inhabitants of Gondolin, the hidden city of the elves during the War of the Simarills. Her grandfather was Fëanor. Idril's fate was to marry a mortal, yet despite this she made the journey into the Uttermost West and dwells in Valinor.

::::: Opera :::::

P.S. I have only one child Evan ("Young Warrior", welsh). Had I a daughter it would have been THAT CLOSE for me to name her Idril. I most likely would not have gone so far as "Itarillë"

Ok lets keep this civil with no name calling or references to bozo's and such

I"m so glad that my parent's named me something normal like "Linda" :)

On the topic of gender name cross overs....John "The Duke" Wayne's real name was "Marion".

In Britain (and maybe elsewhere) Vivian -- or Vivien -- is also a male name. Interesting how times & tastes change, eh?

*In Britain (and maybe elsewhere) Vivian -- or Vivien -- is also a male name. Interesting how times & tastes change, eh?
*True.  That is probably because it is originally French:  Vivien (masculine) and Vivienne (feminine).   Because English doesn't have grammatical genders (unaccountably confused with biological sexes, for the last forty years), "Vivian"  was a logical anglicisation of both forms.   "Vivien" as a girl's name is a little pretentious, however, and a lot daft, although I think that that was how the late Mrs. Olivier spelled her forename.   There are others:  Lesley and Lindsey (although female Lindseys have always heavily outnumbered male, in my experience).   Names ending in "-ley", meaning "meadow", and "-sey", meaning (I am guessing) "island", look like classic English geographical names.    How they became female first-names is a mystery to me.   

Female Tristans, though?   Ermmm, no.

Evelyn- though the masculine version is two syllables. It's all academic.... In fifty years, if we aren't all numbers, no one will no that names ever had any meaning.

A friend of mine claims to have worked at a youth center where one enterprising young mother named her twin sons, Lemonjello and Orangejello -- pronounced Le-mon-jel-lo and O-ranj-ello.

So watch out, I can see Pepsi for A3 just around the bend. It was the nickname of an old friend of mine, while in High School. The basketball team bestowed the name upon her. They said she had more to give.

:sneaky:

(I'm dating myself  (or my friend) - that was Pepsi's slogan at the time)

A bit off the topic, but the Pepsi remark brought back a memory. About ten years ago I knew a lady with two Tibetan Spaniels. For several weeks I thought their names were 'Pizza' and 'Pepsi'. It was rather embarrassing to find out how my hearing (or subconsciousness) had failed me. The real names were 'Mitza' and 'Epsi'.

I often see names that make me either laugh or gringe, but most often it is becase they mean something else in my language. In the case of the name that prompted this thread, I recall being surprised that it was a feminine thing. But that's only because of the Knights.

My favourite "odd" name I've come across was a character pack for V3 called "Rubella" - which is the English name for the disease German Measles :laugh:

Coming soon - Sciatica for David and Lumbago for Steph Petite!

The name of Sir Tristram's true lady love -- as everyone knows -- was La Beale Isoud.  People today should name their daughters after her.  That would be great whenever the girl's 1st grade teacher attempted to call the roll.

BTW - I understand that the name Rachel means "wild goat".  The name Deborah means "a bee".

The name Caleb means "a dog".

Female variants on the name "Tristan" are Trista and Tristana.  I've known one or two Trista's in my time.  In fact I even dated one on-and-off a number of years ago.

The name "Tristram" basically means "sad" or "destined to sorrow"........probably not the best of names for your kid.

Yes, and if I remember my Arthurian legends correctly, he got that name because his mother was dying from the difficult childbirth and sorrowed that she'd never see him grow up.  A fairly common event in those days, though with even higher infant mortality rates, it's a wonder he didn't die too.

*My favourite "odd" name I've come across was a character pack for V3 called "Rubella" - which is the English name for the disease German Measles

Coming soon - Sciatica for David and Lumbago for Steph Petite!*

That was a classic.   I think that Malaria and Ebola for V4 will be along soon, too.

I vote for Incontinentia Buttocks it's a classic name for a character...

I remember pickets outside cinemas in Liverpool, when "The Life of Brian" came out.

Quote - I vote for Incontinentia Buttocks it's a classic name for a character...

Well, that "Depends" on the gender of the character :)

LOL snort  LOL

*On the topic of gender name cross overs....John "The Duke" Wayne's real name was "Marion"

*In the American War of Independence (=American Revolutionary War), there was a character called Marion who carried the struggle in the Carolinas (not very successfully, to tell the truth) against the dastardly Redcoats.   Some years back, he was the subject of a film that was a bit cavalier with the facts, from what I heard.   It starred Mel Gibson and was directed by a German, who allegedly delighted in depicting the British as war-criminals.    The real Marion was a brutal slave-owner, who committed atrocities against both slaves and Loyalists and was a long way from being one of the Revolutionaries' talented commanders (I don't think he ever won a battle).
Nevertheless, I think that is where John Wayne's real name originated.

The best Wayne story is from when he was working on a film about JC.   I think he was portraying the centurion at the crucifixion (I'm not religious, so my biblical knowledge is sketchy and some details may be wrong.)    When his line turned up, he drawled:

"Truly was this maan the son of Gaaad."

The director exploded:

"No, no, no, Mr.Wayne!    Say it with awe!"

So Wayne returned to his place and repeated, in the same flat tone:

"Awe, truly was this maan the son of  Gaaad."