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Subject: Question: Nikon D40X or D80??


rockstrider ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2007 at 1:30 PM · edited Tue, 17 December 2024 at 7:17 AM

I'm about to upgrade my camera to SLR. The trouble is I'm not really sure on some of the technical specifications. I have pretty much set my mind on Nikon and have been looking at the D40x and D80 models. Both of these look pretty similar to me. Does anyone know any big differences between them and, or why I should not get one or the other? (or both ?!? lol.) I am wanting to get a camera to grow into, so to speak, rather than grow out of. Any help is much appreciated!


TwoPynts ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2007 at 2:06 PM · edited Wed, 18 July 2007 at 2:07 PM

Attached Link: COMPARISON

If you have the money, I would initially say go for the D80. But upon comparing features, they look pretty much the same and the D40x is a lot less expensive. The only differences I see are the type of autofocus each has (which is the biggie because the D40x can only autofocus iwth AF-S or AF-I lenses), the D80 also has 1/2 EV steps in addition to 1/3, a difference in the continuous shooting features, the D80 has more self timer options, the types of batteries each uses is different, and the D40x is lighter. It looks like it would boil down to which is more comfortable in your hand and is the D80 worth the extra cost to be able to use a wider range of AF lenses. *((I have no experience with either camera - ;'] ))*

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


Onslow ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2007 at 2:11 PM

The biggest technical difference between the two is the D80 has a built in focussing motor the D40 does not. 

In practical terms this means the D80 can be used with a much wider range of lenses than the D40.  Use both Nikon and third party lenses.

The D40 can only be used with a limited range of Nikon AFs lenses that have built in focussing motors.

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We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to sea in a Sieve.

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TwoPynts ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2007 at 2:17 PM

Can the 40x using other non-AF lenses?

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


nongo ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2007 at 2:31 PM

D80!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for sure!!!!   I love mine!!!!!


Onslow ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2007 at 2:35 PM · edited Wed, 18 July 2007 at 2:36 PM

Akemi - where did you get that colour LOL

I think you are trying to say D80 :D

Yes Kort D40 can use other lenses I believe but only with manual focussing

And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to sea in a Sieve.

Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html


gradient ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2007 at 3:29 PM · edited Wed, 18 July 2007 at 3:30 PM

Yes, main points brought out by Richard and Kort above.  The lack of focusing motor is one of the biggest knocks against the D40 series.

Some other areas to note;
The D40 does not have a top status LCD monitor.
The D40 does not have depth of field preview.
If I recall correctly the D40 does not have bracketing capability
The D40 uses a less sophisticated (slower) focus aquisition...and I think it has less focus areas as well.

Physically, the D40 is a much smaller camera and in essence a "stripped" down version of the D80.  You will have to decide for yourself whether the additional features of the D80 are necessary (and worth the extra cost) for your shooting situations.
The comparison link given by Kort should give you a good start to review the technical differences...but don't forget to handle each cam physically before you purchase.

Unless you already have Nikon glass...you may want to consider the other brands as well...

In youth, we learn....with age, we understand.


rockstrider ( ) posted Wed, 18 July 2007 at 3:57 PM

Thank you all for the pointers and taking the time to reply!


ejn ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2007 at 3:33 AM

Just like to say thanks for the info - very interesting.
Also say thanks to Twopynts for the comparison chart.I  have been considering the D200 against my D100 and have now seen the comparison chart at Dpreview.
Thanks again.
Does anyone here have an opinion on the D200 over the D100  


TwoPynts ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2007 at 8:17 AM · edited Thu, 19 July 2007 at 8:22 AM

Attached Link: D200

You may also want to look here ejn: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond200/page31.asp There see to be a number of improvements since the D100, ie. larger LCD, 4MP more, and so on. If your are still happy with the results from you D100, I would say stick with it and see what comes next. But if you really want to upgrade for you 2002 D100, then the baby D2x would be an excellent choice. IMHO. Here are some more links: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200-vs-nikon.htm http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/review/nikon/d200/dslr_EN4.html http://www.dphotojournal.com/nikon-d100-vs-nikon-d200/ http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=19606

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


eddiej ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2007 at 9:00 AM

Hi Twopynts,

Don't you ever do any work :-)

Glad guys like you are always around to show us lesser mortals the way.

Thanks for all the links - yes I have taken the time to read them.Very interesting.

I was annoyed when I bought the D100 as it was deleted within a few weeks,bet I got the last one on the shelf.

Had I waited ( in hindsight ) the D200 would have been my current camera :-(

The reason for considering the D200 is that there is so much dirt on my D100 sensor that it needs to go away and be cleaned.

I was going to do it at the end of last year but we had great weather so I was out and about on landscapes.

Then this year the weather has been awful and I know I should have done it but I figured the bad weather in the UK couldn't last long.

It is now July and still pretty drab.

The reason for the D200 was to have a spare body or rather get the D100 cleaned and use that as a spare body.

But then the wife decided it would be a great idea to have a conservatory built onto the rear of the house,nothing big,just 3 metres x 4 metres - about £10,000.

She never considered how much it was going to cost to lay the floor and put furniture in it - no she is not blonde.

Added to all this I really wanted a lens for wildlife,birds etc btu I guess it needs to be at least 500mm -  like really expensive.

Now I am thinking can I afford all this.

Do other guys run into these problems or do they just get what they want.

Do they have a row with the wife :-)

Should I turn to alcohol :-)

Eddie

ejn


TwoPynts ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2007 at 9:24 AM

Sorry Eddie, I can't give advice other than that which is photography related, I could get sued! ;'] How many accounts do you have my good man? If it helps, I can not affort to add another room to my house, let alone furnish it. I can't afford a DSLR yet, let alone the lenses. I guess I SHOULD work more, or perhaps just turn to alcohol... ;'P

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


eddiej ( ) posted Thu, 19 July 2007 at 9:43 AM

Hi Twopynts,

How many accounts do I have - is that on Rosity or bank accounts.

Her indoors looks after bank accounts.

On Rosity I have two - one under ejn - one under eddiej

The eddiej gallery is glamour so advisory content if anyone looks at it.

ejn

Eddie


gradient ( ) posted Fri, 20 July 2007 at 10:28 AM

@eddiej;

Although the D200 is a very fine camera....it is also getting towards the end of its product cycle.
Rumors are heating up again of a replacement for it.
If you buy now, I'm afraid your timing may be similar to your experience with the D100.

My advice FWIW....take the D100 in for a sensor cleaning and wait a few more months....that should buy you some time between your wife's conservatory and the new DSLR product....everybody will be happy!

In youth, we learn....with age, we understand.


eddiej ( ) posted Fri, 20 July 2007 at 10:49 AM

Hi Gradient,
Yes I was thinking that there must be a "new" D200 or whtever they will call it coming soon.
What price it will be is another matter as Nikon seem to be producing a lot of lower end of the market cameras,totally no disrespect to any of them but the D200 seems to be the only stop gap between the upper end and cameras like the D40 or whatever.
"Everyone will be happy" -  as John Wayne continually said in one film
"That'll be the day" :-)
Good advice though and thanks But as my old dad used to say 
"He'll never have any sence as long as his arse points downwards"

In youth we learn...with age some of us never grow up 


kromekat ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:55 AM

I bought a D80 recently, and I have been totally amazed by it's quality and speed  - a very nice camera indeed! :)

Adam

Adam Benton | www.kromekat.com


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