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Subject: Wanting to make your own poser clothes ?


SGT2005 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 12:06 PM · edited Tue, 12 November 2024 at 7:38 PM

Let me first tell you there are alot of free modeling applications out there in the artist world.
Try all of them out. I can't tell you which one works best because it is one of those, how well do you work with the application. Some programs are easier to grasp then others. Once you find one that you can adapt to and have good results then contact some of the modelers within the community
some tutorials might be out there. Phil C. Is a good point of contact when trying to develope the nack for making clothes. Remeber it's important to not lose hope, building clothes or buildings from scratch takes experiance and patients. Lots of patients :) But with the right tutorials and help from fellow modelers you will be on your way to success and develope your own clothing line.

Just some helpful ideas from the sgt.

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 12:26 PM

Should people add 'making clothes' suggestions tips and tricks to this topic?

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SGT2005 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 12:59 PM

I would encourage it. Great Idea Conniekat.

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 1:29 PM · edited Thu, 30 August 2007 at 1:47 PM

Couple of the books that have a wealth of info on the subject:

Practical Poser 6 (or 7) this one is great for beginning and intermediate:
Practical Poser 6

Secrets of Figure creation for Poser 5 (I hear 7 is coming out any day now) - great for imtermediate to advanced. Lot of advanced rigging info:
Secrets of Figure Creation

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KarenJ ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 1:48 PM

Connie I edited your links to HTML code cos the URLs were so long I was scrolling for miles ;o)


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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 3:19 PM

Great idea (I should have thought of that myself)
Thanks a bunch:)

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 3:27 PM

Basic Process, please keep in mind this is an overview, and that each of the steps can be done in more then one way)

  1. Take the OBJ file of the figure for which you want to model the clothes and import it in yor favorite application. (Usually scaled up 100, 200 or 500 times from Poser units).

  2. Plan out the piece of clothing (some people make a paper or a digital sketch, some work off of a photo ideas, some just wing it)

  3. Model the piece in your favorite Modelling application. Mostly using subdivision modelling, or a combination of subdivision and spline modelling. Most people do it by modeling the piece around the figure exported in step 1.

  4. UV map the model.

  5. Create textures.

  6. Group for Poser 'rigging' and export into an OBJ file (scaled down to a poser scale)

  7. Import into Poser, and rig to fit the intended figure.

  8. Import any additional morphs, and save as a figure.

Most of the time, there is some back and forth bvetween the steps, and some trial and error. There's a number of programs and utilities theese can be done in. 
If one is working on it 2-4 hours a day, it probably takes about a week to create a medium complexity piece of clothing, with 2-3 morphs.

If anyone else wants to jump in and expand on the basic steps, please do it!!!

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FlyByNight ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 4:36 PM

Are there any tutorials out there for making simple headpieces? I mean like the kind the women wore in LOTR? I have several modeling programs and would like to start with something I think I might be able to do. Besides, I never seem to have enough headpieces and/or simple arm bands.

FlyByNight


Boofy ( ) posted Fri, 31 August 2007 at 1:22 AM

sounds interesting, thanks for the info.


Fyrene ( ) posted Fri, 31 August 2007 at 1:57 AM

Any chance you can list some free modeling programs. Would be nice if its kept as a sticky. Wanting to do some simple prop stuff. A list of some free modeling programs would be really helpful :)

Thanks
Fy :)

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Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 31 August 2007 at 6:40 AM

Thanks to dvlenk6  for the following information:

Quote - I have a list, since it's asked so many times.
They are all freebies; because i would recommend you give it try before spending money on it. Might not be your cup of tea.
http://www.blender.org/ - A fully featured model/render/postwork application with many features and a large number of available plug-ins and script add-ons. Can do everything, just about, and has some really solid free advanced renderers too.
http://www.wings3d.com - Wings3D, A polygon subdivision modeller.
http://www.anim8or.com/ - Anim8or, a modelling and animation tool.
http://www.metaseq.net/english/index.html - Metasequioa LE, Poly sub-d modeller.
http://homepage3.nifty.com/escargot/ - MarbleClay, A hierarchical poly sub-d modeller
http://www.caligari.com/Products/trueSpace/tS3/resources/default.html - TrueSpace 3.2, An older (but still solid) free version of the popular 3d modelling tool.
http://www.cbmodelpro.com - CBModel Pro, A non-linear mesh sculpting tool.

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Boofy ( ) posted Fri, 31 August 2007 at 7:11 AM

I have used Wings3d, it is free, (click on the banner in the Wings3d forum and go to the downloads section. I originally got hooked when I saw Dann-o's models. (link below)

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?username=Dann-o

The forum is rather friendly and have so far answered all my inane questions. I am still learning but improving all the time ( I think) feel free to give me an IM if you like. Jen


Conniekat8 ( ) posted Fri, 31 August 2007 at 11:45 AM

Unfortunately, I haven't found any headpiece specific tutorials. If I see something' I'll post it.

One thing that I noticed in our own rendo tutorial section are videos from speed modelling sessions. Those are always good to watch to get a general idea bout various "How to's" in modelling.
Andrei's speed modelling sessions

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SGT2005 ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2007 at 4:48 AM

Thank you all for your imput. I hope this helps a lot of folks out just learning poser or got that itch to learn about making clothes.  Possible in time have our very own Renderosity Poser modeling team. Why?  I figure since the site was based off the original idea of a poser friendly site why not get some to contribute back to a community that has given so much.(Just a Thought). And those that do contribute do a wonderful job. Ofcourse I can't be biased because Renderosity Rocks and
We have the best artists around. Keep the thread going. Anyone got any Ideas on a modeled figure they like to see as a Renderoristy only figure ? Male or female? This is your forum lets talk about it.

From Sgt.

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FlyByNight ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2007 at 1:55 PM

I'd like to add my thanks, too, both for the input and for SGT2005 for starting this thread.

FlyByNight


patorak ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2007 at 10:58 PM

Hi FlyByNight

Check out this link    http://www.lwg3d.org/v3/tutorials.php?id=127      This one too    http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/makingem/Tips/Metal/Butterfly.htm  

Cheers
Pat



FlyByNight ( ) posted Mon, 03 September 2007 at 2:48 PM

Ooooo. thank you!!!

FlyByNight


patorak ( ) posted Mon, 03 September 2007 at 4:13 PM

You're welcome!    If there's anything else I can help with site mail me.



Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 5:02 PM · edited Sat, 03 November 2007 at 3:22 PM

To add to this thread, here's a list of places that I tend to visit looking for tutorials (in addition to what's available on rendo). Lot of these are for subdivision modelling, but there's a ton of other great info that can be found on theese sites.

Don't forget to look at rendo tut's first  :)

http://www.3dtotal.com/
http://www.subdivisionmodeling.com/forums/index.php
http://forums.polyloop.net/
http://www.silo3d.com/forum/
http://www.3dbuzz.com/
http://forums.cgsociety.org/
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/index.php

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SGT2005 ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 5:24 PM

Hmmm  just thought about a character and he is male.  Ronald from Renderosity .  Ok  maybe not
but you ge the idea .  A Renderosity own figure. 

head pieces...hmmm  now here is a thought if you got one of the free modeling programs, saved a poser female figure as obj and imported just the head into the modeling program. this would give you the demensions needed on the head piece, atleast the part around the head. then just build off that untill you got a head piece that looks great. I used the same idea when making a mask for a poser figure. deleted all polylines except the face part of the head. Stretched the eye areas enough so you could see the original poser character behind the mask. Just little tips for everyone.

sgt2005

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FlyByNight ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 5:40 PM

Actually I have Hex2, SGT2005, so maybe I will be brave enough to actually install and open the program and try your suggestion. New programs scare me to death. LOL!

FlyByNight


SGT2005 ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 5:43 PM

Well ive been there before too....rofl.........Sneak up on the little bugger. I work with Amapi and it wasn't as easy as I thought. took some practice. But I got it down to a science now...now if the rest of me worked  down to a science id be all good.

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FlyByNight ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 6:02 PM

LOL, I think I can do the sneaking up on the little bugger part. But it will have to wait until the weekend, my days off, so I can concentrate on what I'm doing. Thanks, SGT!

I have no illusions that it will be easy and I have a lot of patience for the most part. I just want to make my own headpieces and jewelry for my girls. I have several packs but it's not enough and, hey, a girl needs lots of jewelry!

FlyByNight


Boofy ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 11:47 PM

Conniekat8 I don't want to embarras you but unless I go to the 'quote' tab I cannot read your links as the blue on blue dissapears. However, thanks for the info. Hugs. Jenny


Conniekat8 ( ) posted Wed, 05 September 2007 at 12:05 PM

Quote - Conniekat8 I don't want to embarras you but unless I go to the 'quote' tab I cannot read your links as the blue on blue dissapears. However, thanks for the info. Hugs. Jenny

 

Oh, bummer, I didn't notice it right away. Looks like the links picked up color from html tags :(  I can't fix it now, it's past edit time. Maybe if one of the mods gets a chance, perhaps they can fix it :)

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Boofy ( ) posted Wed, 05 September 2007 at 10:20 PM

No problem, if you go to the 'quote' screen it is readable. Jen


Tashar59 ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 3:44 PM · edited Fri, 07 September 2007 at 3:45 PM

Attached Link: T59 Cloth workshop

Here is my shamless promotion. Someone has got to do it. ![](http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/art/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)LOL. Hex tutorials, but mine are block modeling so can be used for other modeling apps in general. ![](http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/art/emoticons/tongue1.gif)Check the whole forum out for others.


DemonMage ( ) posted Sun, 09 September 2007 at 8:21 PM

I can play that game to Tashar or Beryld if that is your real name :tt2:

Links to My Clothing Tutorials : Glove and Underwear

Mwha ha ha ha! Enjoy.


Tashar59 ( ) posted Mon, 10 September 2007 at 12:30 AM

"I can play that game to Tashar or Beryld if that is your real name "

OK, I don't know what that means or implies.


Boofy ( ) posted Mon, 10 September 2007 at 1:20 AM

*"I can play that game to Tashar or Beryld if that is your real name "

OK, I don't know what that means or implies.

*Is DemonMage implying that he can put up his link to a tutorial too....? Jen


Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 18 September 2007 at 10:13 PM

I think Link to Phil C's Joint and Rigging Video tutorials would be quite appropriate in this thread :)
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2712767

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DemonMage ( ) posted Wed, 19 September 2007 at 6:57 PM

Yes Boofy that's what I meant . It was all in good fun. My style of humor is sometimes hard for people to understand. This being all text and no facial expressions.

Sorry if I stepped on anyones toes.


Tashar59 ( ) posted Wed, 19 September 2007 at 9:04 PM

Not a problem, lack of sleep and I missed the humour.


Boofy ( ) posted Wed, 19 September 2007 at 11:07 PM

*Yes Boofy that's what I meant . It was all in good fun. My style of humor is sometimes hard for people to understand. This being all text and no facial expressions.

Sorry if I stepped on anyones toes.*

Not a problem Demon Mage, my toes are intact! I threw my 10cents worth in to add a different slant,

LOL, I have people misunderstanding my weird humour face to face let alone in print! :woot:
Jen


Bobbie25 ( ) posted Mon, 24 September 2007 at 7:30 PM

Hello I would like to list some my fave tools for clothing if no one minds
Morph Designer  "MP Daz
Morph Magic        "MP Daz"
Poser Tool Box    "Mp Here"
Netherwork Morph Kits "Makeing morph His site"
Uv Layout  "Uvmapping"
C4d  "Modeling"
Photoshop "Designing"
A Wig for when i pull out all my hair.
Clothing can be fun to make but a pain to make work lol

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Bobbie25 ( ) posted Mon, 24 September 2007 at 7:35 PM

O and a really cool tut on rigging if i mised it posted  im sorry to post it again
http://www.yanelis3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139

I lik this tut and the site looks nice and a few more usefull tools
Morph Manager 
CR2 Editor

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Sat, 29 September 2007 at 3:33 PM

Here's a link to another thread here, where people are listing external programs, tools and utilities that aid in creation of content :)
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3081841&ebot_calc_page#message_3081841

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2007 at 3:22 PM

Attached Link: Clothing tutorial

file_392399.gif

Did someone say "clothing?" *(click the link above the image)*

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019



FlyByNight ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2007 at 11:36 AM

Any chance for a tutorial to make a simple headpiece? Please? Just a plain headband that I could texture or use transmaps to change the look?

And thank you for the clothing tutorial! I've bookmarked it so I can try it out when I have some time to devote to the lesson.

FlyByNight


geep ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2007 at 2:31 PM

Um, to whom are you making your request for a headband tut?

And, if 'tis moi, then ... this would be a headband for who?

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019



vilters ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2007 at 2:57 PM

I did a tutorial a while back.
How to make dynamic clothing with anim8or, a free 3d prog.
I include the link.
The trick is to let anim8or and Poser do the hard work.
All you have to build yourself is one simple figure.
Take it from here, or improve with transmappping or displacement maps to increase details.
Good luck everybody.
Tony B
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Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2007 at 3:25 PM

Fixed those invisi links on page 1 for ya Connie 😉

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DarkEdge ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2007 at 3:29 PM · edited Sat, 03 November 2007 at 3:33 PM

I'm not going to repeat others fabulous suggestions, so I'll add this to the discussion:

1- Learn Poser's way of naming body parts (examples: lShin, rForeArm, lShldr, head, rThigh, rToe, etc)
2- Learn Poser's way of setting up folders and what is contained in those folders.
     Some examples:
     Runtime:Geometries:DarkEdge:Helmet.obj
     (the geometry folder is where most obj's are stored, I say most because some will use the character folders)
     Runtime:Libraries:Character:DarkEdge:DarkAssassin
     (the character folders are where most of your figures CR2's will be, when you double click on a figure in Poser to bring onto the stage...this is usually where they come from).
😄

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FlyByNight ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2007 at 8:41 PM

I was making the request to you, Dr. Geep, since your tutorials are ones I can easily understand and you make them fun as well. The headband can be for either Aiko3, V3 or V4. I'm more or less after the basics on how it's done so I can create them for any figure. Thanks! 

FlyByNight


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