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Subject: Using BlackEyes on Victoria 4 - tutorial


Netherworks ( ) posted Wed, 09 January 2008 at 6:48 PM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 12:50 AM

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Using BlackEyes on Victoria 4

Frankly, I don't really care for the way the eyes are designed for V4.  I personally don't like how they come "out of the box" (the eye whites seem to glow a strange color) and I just think there are just too many material zones.  However, this isn't a discussion on whether or not V4 has good or bad eyes ... it's a tutorial for using Blackhearted's BlackEyes on Victoria 4.

This product is available at Renderosity here: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=18033

I've always liked this product and it's not expensive.

Poser Tutorial:

  1. Load Victoria 4 into the scene and using the hierarchy editor hide both the right and left eyes.

  2. In your BlackEyes prop directory, load the Right Vicky3 eye replacement (Vicky3_R).

  3. For the "Black Eyes R" Parameters change the following settings:

Scale 118%
xTran -0.115
yTran 5.784
zTran 0.207

  1. In the "Black Eyes R" Properties, click on "Set Parent" and select Victoria's rEye - you've now smart-propped the eye and it will move with the morphform dials.

  2. You can now save the "Black Eyes R" prop back into the Props folder.  Use a new name such as V4_Right.  When is asks to save as a Smart Prop, you click "yes".

  3. In your BlackEyes prop directory, load the Left Vicky eye replacement (Vicky3_L).

  4. For the "Black Eyes L" Parameters change the following settings:

Scale 118%
xTran 0.115
yTran 5.784
zTran 0.207

  1. In the "Black Eyes L" Properties, click on "Set Parent" and select Victoria's lEye - you've now smart-propped the eye and it will move with the morphform dials.

  2. You can now save the "Black Eyes L" prop back into the Props folder.  Use a new name such as V4_Left.  When is asks to save as a Smart Prop, you click "yes".

  3. You're all done and now have some new eyes to play with.  You may wish to touch up the lighting of the eyes in the material room.

I'm hoping that Blackhearted is still working on a BlackEyes 3.0 and I look forward to it!

Happy Rendering!

I've included a render of the BlackEyes converted and I've made no material room adjustments.  I leave that for those with better skill :)  The skin textures are basic V4.1 and for this exercise I removed all the nodework - it's just too much, especially the glowing blinn lighting.

I know Blackhearted has a lot of fans here and wanted to share :)

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MyCat ( ) posted Wed, 09 January 2008 at 9:03 PM

I too like Blackhearted's eyes (I recently bought BH characters because of the eyes) and dislike V4's eyes. Thank you very much for the tutorial. (I'm also glad that Scare Bear made it back into the store and hence to my runtime.)


Dave-So ( ) posted Wed, 09 January 2008 at 10:06 PM

this is great...thanks :)
I use Blackeyes on all my characters. usually just tweak them until they get to the right location, but never parented them...will give it a try.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854



Tashar59 ( ) posted Wed, 09 January 2008 at 11:28 PM

Thank you for this.


Marque ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 6:39 AM

Aha!! Thank you!


Marque ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 8:12 AM

The YTran seems way off are you sure about this? Not doubting the master on this but it sends the eye off to nowhere land if I use 5.784.


Netherworks ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 2:17 PM

Dave-So,

Yeah, parenting them allows them to use those eye side-side dials and so forth :)

Marque,

At the default I'm showing the Vicky 3 eye prop to come in with a yTran of 5.686, so that should only be a difference of -0.098.

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ThrommArcadia ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 2:26 PM

@ Marque and Netherworks:

What is your Poser Display Units set too?  I might be mistaking, but would this effect the Tran measurements?


Netherworks ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 2:31 PM

Ah, wise you are Thromm.  I have mine set to "Feet" which I think is the default in English Poser 7.  Never messed with the setting.

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Dim_Reaper ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 3:12 PM

Blackeyes is a great product, and I couldn't agree more with you on disliking V4's eyes, yet I've not thought of using them together liek this.  Great idea, and great walkthrough.  Thank you!

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Netherworks ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 3:22 PM

You're all welcome :)

I also have real eyes by cake1 and Awful Eyes so I may work on tutorials for those :)

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Klutz ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 3:22 PM

Very nifty idea.

Thanks a lot for that Tut too

Klutz :0)

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flibbits ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 4:06 PM

How about a pic of the finished product including the eye replacement?



Netherworks ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 4:07 PM

Quote - How about a pic of the finished product including the eye replacement?

Er... First post?

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Marque ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 6:34 PM

Hey that was it! I didn't have it set to anything and when I set it to feet it worked. Thank you for the tutorial, I love the blackeyes and this is too cool to be able to use it.
Thanks again,
Marque


Marque ( ) posted Thu, 10 January 2008 at 8:54 PM

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This is too cool thanks!


Netherworks ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 12:21 AM

Awesome!  Glad you got it worked out :)

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operaguy ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2008 at 1:51 AM · edited Fri, 11 January 2008 at 1:51 AM

Thanks for taking time to work up this tutorial.

I always used BlackEyes when I was trying to get somewhere with EJ, V3 and Miki. But when V4 came out, I figured out her system and I consider it tremendous. 

I think I'll try BlackEyes on V4 and post a side by side with the V4 version.

::::: Opera :::::


IsaoShi ( ) posted Thu, 14 August 2008 at 11:04 AM

Ooh! Another lil' gem stashed away in the forum... thank you! Those eyes look fantastic compared to V4's.

By the way, methinks the link on your Bio page needs updating - it still points to www.thenetherworks.com.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


Bri65 ( ) posted Sat, 22 November 2008 at 1:19 AM

Thank you so much for this!


hborre ( ) posted Sat, 22 November 2008 at 8:13 AM

Thanks.  Bookmark.


Silke ( ) posted Sun, 23 November 2008 at 4:44 PM

Hmmm I got those too. Haven't used them in God knows how long. I should try and do this with M4 :)

Silke


Nod ( ) posted Mon, 15 June 2009 at 5:09 PM

This works for M4 as well with slight adjustment. :)


LaurieA ( ) posted Mon, 15 June 2009 at 5:17 PM

Thanks!! I have this product and I'd like to use it on V4 if I can. You're great!

Laurie



tvining ( ) posted Mon, 26 October 2009 at 6:35 PM

Does anybody have the numbers for M4?


Vestmann ( ) posted Mon, 26 October 2009 at 7:30 PM

Thank you very much for this!




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zap326 ( ) posted Wed, 23 December 2009 at 7:49 PM

Whoo! - December 2009 and this very helpful tute is still satisfying. - Thanks! 👍


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