@Tashar59, sorry, it wasn't meant to be personal, but there were so much negative comments about poser 7, I had to make a positive statement. I was more aiming at those who bought poser7, gave it a try and went back to poser6 and gave up on it. On my old computer I had both poser6 and poser7 installed, but after a few months I didn't use Poser6 anymore, so when I bought a new computer with a dual core processor, I only copied the P6-runtime and didn't install it. This doesn't mean I'm always positive about P7, it's still crashing and I went through all the pain P7 has to offer, including losing a complete runtime (that did really hurt!), but at least I know now why it's crashing (most of the time) and often it's a "I shouldn't have done that" experience. Perhaps a  autosave-feature would be nice in the next upgrade.  A lot of problems were created by software that was created for P6, like pythonscripts and the DAZ-models especially V4 but I don't know if the poser-developmentteam was responsible for that. At the most you can blame them for not communicating with the third-party providers.

I surely hope that Poser-pro is meant to be sidestep to a new line, and not an upgrade of P7, because it just isn't an upgrade for the average poseruser.

Best regards,

Bopperthijs

Did I miss something? I thought it said that Lightwave was going to be supported in Poser Pro. Originally e-frontier said that Lightwave would be supported. Then it was said that Lightwave had been dropped. I haven't read the announcements at e-frontier/smith micro in the last few months. Dare I hope that Lightwave will be included after all?

I don't think that Poser Pro is not to take the place of the hobbiest version of poser it is basically those who use the more traditional Professional apps such as maya, c4d and such to be able to put poser into the work pipe line more easy with intergration of poser content and the ability to network SM or Ef should know that the hobbiest may not have user for such features but there are those who use it professionally that may find these features useful hopefully they will still put out Poser8 for the hobbiest with better Basic features and some of those utilized in the Professional version sort of like Poser Artist and Poser7. there is a lot of low price poser content that i am sure professionals would use if they could fit it in the work flow and if the market is there might as well sell it to them.

It's currently my understanding that Lightwave support is supposed to appear at some future date.  We'll see whether or not that ever actually happens.

LW was one of the apps listed as being supported by Poser Pro upon the original announcement.  However, when the Poser Pro specs were listed several weeks later, Lightwave was conspicuously absent from the list.  This fact started up a heated thread over on Newtek's board -- with the thread initiator complaining about Poser Pro dropping support for LW, while others responded with the point that Poser is all garbage anyway, so why be bothered about Poser Pro's not supporting LW?

We were left with the implication that Lightwave support will be forthcoming sometime down the road.  That might or might not actually happen.  Who knows?

My own biggest disappointment with Poser Pro was the silent dropping of support for Lightwave.  Unlike some others, I'm perfectly willing to part with $500 if the program did what I wanted it to do.  I have to admit that without LW support, it's less attractive.  But I also have to admit that LW support isn't a deal-breaker for me: it's just a downside.  shrug  You don't always get everything that you want.  I certainly never have.  You go forward, regardless of that fact.

BTW - Poser 7 is by far and away the #1 version of Poser currently installed among the user base.  So those who have chosen to stick with an earlier version of Poser (for whatever reasons) are in a minority.  It's a fine thing & perfectly legitimate to make that choice for personal reasons -- but it's not something to get self-consciously self-righteous about.  It's just a choice in 3D software -- and such choices aren't moral issues.

InfoCentral,  I was being sarcastic.  "see, there you go again"? what's up with that. I sure can't see a price for P7 owners or a price for the base. I've read that it has not been determined yet. So where is this pricing you say is posted and "there I go again."

bopperthijs I get ya, I agree that many never gave P7 enough time but to be fair to them, P7 may be more hassle than it's worh on thier machines. I did the same as you with my new machine. I wanted to make sure I have 64 bit to take advantage of the software I have that is 64 and be ready for the software that will be. I found that my Modo purrs on 64 bit system Can't wait for the 64 bit version. I am hoping that this Ppro version works the same way.

See, there you go again getting all hostile and stuff.

LOL. asking you a simple question is being hostile?

Just trying to lighten things up...

Well, next time wait till I have some coffee to wake up. LOL.

Will do...

Quote - We were left with the implication that Lightwave support will be forthcoming sometime down the road.  That might or might not actually happen.  Who knows?

My own biggest disappointment with Poser Pro was the silent dropping of support for Lightwave.  Unlike some others, I'm perfectly willing to part with $500 if the program did what I wanted it to do.  I have to admit that without LW support, it's less attractive.  But I also have to admit that LW support isn't a deal-breaker for me: it's just a downside.  shrug  You don't always get everything that you want.  I certainly never have.  You go forward, regardless of that fact.

Well said.  I still have my Poser 4 and Pro Pack because it is still the last version with the Lightwave importer.  As I remember it Reiss Studios was supposed to create a plug-in for it way back in version 5.  They managed to produce some for other programs and even a few updates for then but never got the Lightwave plug in off the ground.  I am very disappointed as this was going to be a huge selling point for me.  Now it will be a wait and see.  I never bought 7 and perhaps 7 Pro may not be a selling point either.  Probable Poser 8 is where I'll buy in again.

In all fairness though I thing with all the changes in Lightwave and the current rewriting of core code.  The addition of joints to the bone system etc.  It just might be a nightmare to try to write a plug in with so much changes at the core level.

I think it was a great promotion what Poser Pro would be. But once I saw a list with features of Poser7, Poser Pro Basic (and cheaper) and the expensive Professionel one.
Between Poser7 and Pro Basic isn´t really much different. Both do the same, only Pro Basic can´t read Hair Prob files but has two new figures (which certainly nobody like to use, as always). So I don´t need it ( I love my hair-probsg).