Has anyone else out there had it with Vue's import or lack thereof of Poser prop hair? It seems like with my Poser imports I only get hair about 25% of the time. This also goes for any parented prop, though hair seems to be the worst. I've had problems with it since Vue 4, and I thought maybe they had finally fixed it with Vue 6, but apparently not.

Does anyone know any workarounds or fixes besides the old, export to OBJ file and relink all the textures? I really love Vue, but I've had it with the Poser "import."

so far I've never had that problem, thankfully!

have you tried the trick with using Python script to export & copy ALL the scene objects to a new folder, load it form there? :)

File--> Run Python Script--> navigate to your Poser proram directory, Runtime-->, Python-->, Poser Scripts-->, Utility-->, CollectSceneInventory.py, then select "Copy all to Folder"

I've not had a problem with importing poser props or hair of any kind, in Vue 5, and Vue 6. You using the latest patch? (All my Vue renders use poser figures, and the only trouble I've had is with Dynamic hair and props.)

There's only one hair I can't import into 6Inf and that's Hmann's Ultimate hair, oh! and any strand based hair, all the rest work like a charm!

As for all the other props, try running your "uncompress" script inside Poser, sometimes obz don't come into Vue for some reason but once uncompressed back to an obj they do!

I never had problems importing anything from Poser. I always use the latest patches.

Quote - so far I've never had that problem, thankfully!

have you tried the trick with using Python script to export & copy ALL the scene objects to a new folder, load it form there? :)

File--> Run Python Script--> navigate to your Poser proram directory, Runtime-->, Python-->, Poser Scripts-->, Utility-->, CollectSceneInventory.py, then select "Copy all to Folder"

I'll give this a try. The scene I'm having problems with now is Mitsu hair which I have parented to V4. Works fine in Poser, but when I import it to Vue the hair is gone. Oddly enough, she has another prop parented to her that translates over fine. I also had a problem recently with Paris hair. Neither of them are strand based, so they shouldn't be a problem and AFAIK, they aren't OBZ files. I also had problems recently when I parented a bunch of props to a shelf in Poser then imported that to Vue. More than half the props vanished. With that one I ended up exporting to OBJ and relinking the materials.

And, yes, I have updated my Vue and Poser to the latest versions. Poser 7.0.2.132 and Vue Esprit 6.10 -04 running Mac OS 10.4

Since none of you seem to have this problem, I sat down and tried a few things to see if I could narrow it down. The collecting script didnt' help, unfortunately, but it's nice to know that there is that feature.

To start out with, I took a basic Aiko and put the Mitsu hair on her in Poser 7 and saved that file. I also tried it with the Paris hair. I imported both into Vue and neither hair came in. Then I got to thinking that maybe Vue wasn't liking my runtime, so I installed the Paris Hair into the default Poser 7 runtime, made a new Poser file and tried importing that. It worked fine. I opened up the original PZ3 in a text editor to see if the file paths were wrong but they looked correct.

So next, I switched my Vue to point to Poser 6. Then I opened Poser 6, which is linked to my runtimes in my Poser 7 folder (the same ones that were causing the problem in the first place). I placed Aiko in the scene with the hair in question, saved that file and imported it. Lo and behold it imports fine.

Then on a whim, I tried two more things. With Vue 6 still linked to Poser 6, I tried importing the original Poser 7 file. No luck. Then I took my original Poser 7 file, opened it in a text editor and changed the version number to 6 (this would sometimes work in Vue 5), but no dice there either.

So, apparently Vue 6 doesn't like Poser 7 external runtimes, but likes them well enough with Poser 6. I remember reading somewhere on E-on's site that they had problems with the Poser 7 SDK and multiple runtimes. I was hoping they had resolved these in the Vue 6 updates since then, but apparently not. (Sigh). Looks like it's back to using Poser 6 for my Vue projects...

I'm not sure if it's important or not, but I do have every single Poser prop under one single runtime folder.

Just to add a data point, I too use a single Poser runtime (huuuuge!) with Poser 7 and haven't encountered this problem.

I've never encountered a hair prop problem with Vue imports. Carrara is a different story; Loading directly from the Runtime is the best policy in that program.

I also only have one runtime with sub folders!

I have my P6 Runtime and the original Downloads one too. And i have often this problem with hair.

The issue here is that they changed the library loading system in P7, and introduced some virtualization; the P7 saved pathway is not logically complete. Nothing prevents you from doing your work in P7, saving, then opening and resaving in P6 to correct that issue. It's a kludge step, but it does work.....

That's one reason I set up my scenes in P6 and not 7 anymore!
To be honest buying P7 was a waste for me as I render excusively in Vue and usually set up in P6 unless I'm doing a pure Vue scene which isn't often!

I'm not using the default runtime for any of my poser 6 stuff. Everything is on a seperate drive,  but under one rather large runtime folder: models, props, etc. (Gotta keep my limited space harddrive on my Macbook Pro as free as possible) but I still haven't run into the problem of hair and props not importing correctly.

I keep them all in seperate runtimes, I donwload stuff to them as well, so, all Mike 3 clothing etc is int he mike3 runtime, along with saved webpages form DAZ etc, so I have reference.

baleensavage,
ok this sounds liek a very weird specific problem, could you tell us your operating system (and if MAC what type), how drives are set up (ie, C drive for OS, and D drive for run time etc), etc? :)

Thanks all for your help. Like I said in my first post, I've had problems all along with Poser hair and I've been using Vue since version 4. But I'll focus on the current incarnation, because that is what I'd like to have work correctly. :D

Im using Poser 7 and Vue 6 Esprit, both updated to the latest versions on an Intel iMac running Mac OS 10.4.11. As far as I have seen, Vue 6 has very few problems importing from Poser 6. It's when I add Poser 7 to the mix that I have the problems again. My suspicion, like someone else mentioned is that this is actually a Poser 7 issue (that program is riddled with bugs). Unfortunately, with the Intel Mac, working exclusively in Poser 6 is a pain because it is not Universal Binary. Add to that the lack of multiple undos (dont know how I ever got bay without that) and the lack of morphing brush...

All my runtimes are contained within the Poser 7 Folder in my Applications folder on my primary hard drive. I have Poser 6 linked up to the same runtimes as Poser 7 all within my Poser 7 folder.

Quote - The issue here is that they changed the library loading system in P7, and introduced some virtualization; the P7 saved pathway is not logically complete. Nothing prevents you from doing your work in P7, saving, then opening and resaving in P6 to correct that issue. It's a kludge step, but it does work.....

I tried this out and it seems to work. Poser 6 gives me an error when it opens the file (about the version number), but it opens. I could probably get rid of that error if I edit the PZ3 to change the version of the file. It may be a pain, but it's no where near as much of a pain as exporting as an OBJ file then relinking all the materials.

One thing i do when the hair doesn't want to import into Vue:

Into P6, i export as an OBJ my posed hair. Import it. From the original hair i save a mat file in the Material room. Selecting my imported hair, i load this mat file, and all the original materials are fine ^^. After deleting or hiding the original hair, i can save my pz3 and import it into Vue.
It's a kind of work but it's the only thing i can do to avoid bald characters all the time ;)

I just came across the same issue using P7 and VueInfinite (both are the most recent versions) on an Intel MacBook Pro.
Saving the P7 in P6 helped to import the hair and two other props that where missing. But I ran into another issue with the second figure. It's the Biguana lizzard which doesn't import properly. It's backfin looks kind of strange and doesn't fit to the back anymore. ARGGG!!!!

For this very reason I did most of my recent images without Vue, but there are certain ones where I desperately need Vue's lanscaping capabilities.
I'm really frustrated that it's always such a pain to get Vue and Poser work together correctly. :(