Jaml,

Please read your site-mail immediatelty.

The Bryster
Forum Coordinator

Why should he? We are all wondering by now. Has he won the UK LOtto?

FYI, it was important that Jaml read his site mail and this should go for everyone. When you visit your forum or in fact anywhere on the Rend, you should keep a weather eye on the site mail member link just in case.

The Bryster
Forum Coordinator

Forgive me for butting in, but if Rendo admins feel that way, you really ought to get the owner's to fix the site. After the last redesign, there was a distinct reduction in the perceptibility of the site mail indicator. It used to be that the "you have site mail" indicator was much more obvious. Now it is moved to the far right and is small.

Notice, also, that on a typical wide-screen laptop (as I use almost always now) there is ZERO content on my screen when I come to a Rendo forum message.

I see:

A welcome message with my name in it, the day, date, time and how many artists on line.
A big pretty logo.
A search device.
An advertisement.
10 major site link menu buttons.
A welcome message to the forums in general
7 forum links
A welcome message to the Poser Forum
A list of moderators.
A link to the poser faq and when it was last updated (2004)
A forum banner image.
A very large message in fine print about this forum.
Six Poser community links.
Six forum internal links.
And finally the actual message I'm reading, of which I can only see the title.

Way off to the right, also in small letters, is a bunch of stuff, among which is the tiny little site mail indicator. Heading to read the post I'm interested in, the first thing I do is PAGE DOWN - scrolling all that stuff away, including the site mail. But in the old layout, I'd NOTICE the site mail, because it was in the midst of the main flow and it was big.

Given normal human perception and behavior, I'd be willing to bet that the new presentation of the site mail indicator is nearly at the bottom of the scale when measured for perceptibility.

At the very least, the indicator must move BACK to the main flow, not be in the side bar where it is now. And second, it should be at least as big as the three (3!!) "Welcome" messages I see PERMANENTLY smashed onto my screen.

Maybe Papa NaySay could help?    

He could pop up and yell at you ...................................................................... or not.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Just a thought.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Simple solution, bring back the Big Purple Flashy Thing.
And make sure it's not near any advertising banner locations.

I prefer to think he won the Lotto.

Yep, it was much better when the notification was on the left side instead of the right.

I have a wide screen with a high resolution and I see the whole site on my screen, including the far right links with the "site mail" notification, without having to scroll.

However when I had a smaller screen with a resolution that wasn't so high, I had to scroll way off the the right to see that mail noticiation. I didn't always do that.

Also, the text is so small that it's easily missed.

Personally I like Geep's idea, have something pop up on the screen. Of course maybe pop up blockers could block that. Maybe they could redirect you to site mail anytime you have some no matter what link you clicked on. Man that would be annoying.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showforum.php?forum_id=12472

Maybe you'd like to post yer ideas there.  Just sayin'

Quote - Ladies and Gents, we have a Suggestion Box forum, ya know.
Maybe you'd like to post yer ideas there.  Just sayin'

Been there, done that -> http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=2932406&ebot_calc_page#message_2932406

Same suggestion was made before the "Suggestion Box" existed -> http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=2848294&ebot_calc_page#message_2848294

Can't seem to find my T-Shirt though

sigh Everyone's a critic. :)

Yeah and this made me laugh too:

StaceyG, trying to help people understand why it can't be done said: "Due to the way the tables work in this new software platform, we can't put it where it used to be. And we can't move it all the way over to the left rigth above where it used to be or it would be lumped in there with the the number of users online, username, etc."

I am not a web interface (HTML+Javascript) programmer, nor am I a "UI designer" (you know, those people who wear black clothes and have an earring in their nose.). I am just a lowly systems architect, who makes systems of computers with millions of parts talk to each other. So the exact difficulties of moving a piece of text into position, with a certain distinct font, may have escaped me. It may be that I, being an engineer who deals with durations of nanoseconds, and events that occur trillions of times an hour, am just not in tune with how the intricacies of a static placement of some text on a web page. It may be that I do not understand "DIV" and "SPAN" and absolute positioning and DHTML and AJAX and the dozen or so toolkits out there that demonstrate how to MOVE ITEMS AROUND ON THE SCREEN IN REAL TIME, in response to events on the server, such as the arrival of a new message.

Nope - I better stick to organizations like NASA and American Express and Disney and Blockbuster and Target. When I "suggest" to them that something should be done about a problem, and what should be done, and how long it will actually take (as opposed to how long THEY think it will take) I don't get much of an argument.

Sooooo.... has JAML read his SITE MAIL yet do you think?

I suspect that when they say they can't put it in the same place as before, they mean that because of the way the page generation is organised the necessary information isn't available (or hasn't been fetched/loaded into the session information) at the point when that part of the page is produced (username appears in the header, so I suspect not fetched).

Quote - Sooooo.... has JAML read his SITE MAIL yet do you think?

He's posted in his gallery 3 times since this thread was started, which kind of confirms the point.

Just seems a bit remedial to have a sticky devoted to demanding a single user read his sitemail, in a forum read by many thousands of people...

Pjz99: YEAH But he got the message......and as a plus, it got you lot taking about it. And this sticky will removed shortly.

Bryster, you're a heretic afterall.
I knew it all along... :lol:

Obligitory Lolcat to close the thread :-

see more crazy cat pics

fab image, noel!  :lol:
geep, minor correction : it's spelt "youse", not "yuze".
19th century new york "english", second person plural.

p.s. I believe it's unwise to single out an user by putting said user's name
in a sticky (or even a regular message) that's disciplinary, as it may tend to
subject said user to humiliation and ridicule.  we don't know what said user's
circumstances might be, e.g. illness, family matters, loss of service et al.

Miss Nancy, minor correction to your minor correction : in NaySpeak it's spelt "yuze" not "youse"

Okeh? ... Ok. ...

Quote - fab image, noel!  :lol:
geep, minor correction : it's spelt "youse", not "yuze".
19th century new york "english", second person plural.

p.s. I believe it's unwise to single out an user by putting said user's name
in a sticky (or even a regular message) that's disciplinary, as it may tend to
subject said user to humiliation and ridicule.  we don't know what said user's
circumstances might be, e.g. illness, family matters, loss of service et al.

20th Century Northern English (Specifically, Merseyside and parts of the NorthEast) and Scottish English. :biggrin:

I, eerm, just read mine.  One dated in December, the other in January-- replied today after finding the thing on the right side---don't move it now--I know where it is!  Jan