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Subject: my ideas for next months challenge.


brholte ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2008 at 5:37 PM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 10:46 PM

 I never thought it would be so tough to choose a theme for the Bryce challenge. After thinking long and hard on a theme that would not only yield some great images, but test our creativity while keeping true to Bryce only images, I decided to go with Architecture and cityscapes/skylines. This could be a skyline/cityscape, or maybe the inside of a building or church. Maybe even a complex piece of machinery.It looks as though I set the rules as far as post work, and importing objects, so here is what I have always preferred…..

I would prefer that all architecture is created by the artist within Bryce using any building tools that come with Bryce whether it be primitives, terrains, trees, 2d surface, etc. etc.

I realize that this theme would generate a need to use a huge amount of objects which would undoubtedly slow down your renders, etc.. so although I would rather not see photographs of buildings applied to 2d surfaces to be used for entire buildings, as long as your main focus is modeled entirely with Bryce, the technique you use for the rest of the image is up to you.

As far as imports go….. Again, as long as the main focus of your image (architecture) is modeled with only Bryce, feel free to use anything else for your image.

Post work should be used tastefully. The over all theme here is architecture and cityscapes, so feel free to use post work for color enhancements, DOF, or creating textures

I hope this is not confusing. Feel free to reply and give me suggestions on how to tweak the rules, but as of now, this is what I have come up with.

Thanks again for giving me this opportunity!

brholte


Thandaluz ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2008 at 6:23 PM

Although I promised to me same not to participate more of challenges, I liked your placement. 
To do EVERYTHING with BRYCE, without any import... it would be excellent. 
Perhaps the non purists don't like, but it would be a challenge for our imagination.

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bobbystahr ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2008 at 8:23 PM

Bryster will be well pleased...LOL...I think this is a good one.. ...

 

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and try to write it down
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Tinkling light sound
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Ang25 ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2008 at 8:34 PM

Nice challenge idea.


rj001 ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 3:38 AM

yup, i'll be in with this one, make it offical so i can start modelling straight away.

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

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RodsArt ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 4:00 AM

rj: you already have more models in your subconcious mainframe than all of us put together. LOL

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rj001 ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 4:29 AM

Thanks, but for challenges i love to build afresh, will we have a long time on this? may have to set up a seperate sticky for WIPS.

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

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RodsArt ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 4:44 AM · edited Fri, 09 May 2008 at 4:49 AM

OK, How does this sound so far?....... 


Theme:   " BRYCE - Architecture"

Architecture and cityscapes/skylines. This could be a skyline/cityscape, or maybe the inside of a building or church. Maybe even a complex piece of machinery.

Basic Composition:

...all architecture is created by the artist within Bryce using any building tools that come with Bryce whether it be primitives, terrains, trees, 2d surface, etc. etc.

...although I would rather not see photographs of buildings applied to 2d surfaces to be used for entire buildings, as long as your main focus is modeled entirely with Bryce, the technique you use for the rest of the image is up to you.

Imports:

As far as imports go….. Again, as long as the main focus of your image (architecture) is modeled with only Bryce, feel free to use anything else for your image.

Postwork:

Post work should be used tastefully. The over all theme here is architecture and cityscapes, so feel free to use post work for color enhancements, DOF, or creating textures. 


 Let me know if this covers everything, then we can either tweak it or Let'r Rip (post it).

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RodsArt ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 4:46 AM

The Sticky WIPs sounds fine by me.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 7:13 AM
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Bobby hit the nail on the head. I'm very pleased with this idea and I wholeheartedly approve.

Now as long as the deadline is in May 2012, I should have something ready by then.

Good luck with this one, people!

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dhama ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 8:27 AM

I'll have one finished by tea time...... although I won't upload it for a few weeks.

Nice idea brholte, I like your way of thinking.


johnyf ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 10:44 AM

Can you use a paint programme to produce height map terrains?


RodsArt ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 3:31 PM

johnyf:

I would have to say Yes, it's a natural function of bryce to use 2D imagery for height maps.

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johnyf ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 3:35 PM

Thanks ICM, that's what I thought, but wanted clarity!


brholte ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 4:03 PM

I'm glad everyone approves!!  The sticky WIP thread is an outstanding idea.  just waiting for ICM to say...... GO!!

BTW,,  am I excluded from entering my own challenge??


RodsArt ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2008 at 4:48 PM

No, not at all.

(getten the GO flag ready)

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orbital ( ) posted Sat, 10 May 2008 at 2:01 AM

Excellent theme. I already have an idea!

http://joevinton.blogspot.com/


TheBryster ( ) posted Sat, 10 May 2008 at 7:54 AM
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Can I use the Crystal Palace as my entry?

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Rayraz ( ) posted Sat, 10 May 2008 at 5:43 PM

Bryster, it'd surely be an awesome entry, but why not make something new specifically for this challenge? Why not... the kruller muller museum? Or the Kremlin, or Notre Dame?

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CrazyDawg ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2008 at 8:41 AM

ouch to us that don't have a full understanding of booleaning in bryce or using the terrain editor.

Never mind, goodluck to those who enter this one.

I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them.


 



brholte ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2008 at 6:06 PM

that is why we call it a challange.  your chance to try something new and gain a new understanding about it.  But its up to you to take advantage of the opportunity.


TheBryster ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 6:43 AM
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I think that the thing about booleans is that if you start simple you can quickly work up to complicated.

I seem to remember a quote from a sculpterer. It went something like this:
"The statue is already there in the rock. I just chip off the parts that aren't the statue."

If you find the idea of booleans worrying, just create a cube and make it positive. Then create a cylinder and make it negative. Set the cylinder into the cube - doesn't really matter where - and group! Observe what happens!

The possibilities are endless.

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


rj001 ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 6:49 AM

i fully agree - thats exactly how i work, just see the basic shape, a rectangle, a circle, and start whittling away. - but most of all, have fun. - once you read the basic tutorials on the terrain editor then you'll discover even more possibilities.
and there is so much satisfaction in creating your own models etc, than  just importing something pre-made.

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

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CrazyDawg ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 7:07 AM

Hey guys i know the basics of booleaning like Bryster stated, that i did pick up on quite easy. What i have a problem with is something like joining a few boolean objects together to form one structure/section.

I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them.


 



rj001 ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 7:28 AM

CrazyDawg: do you mean using the 'C' option to collapse the boolean to one single object?

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

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CrazyDawg ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 8:27 AM

no rj, i mean doing a few boolean objects then joining them all together so they look like one structure. i'll have to find something so i can show you what i mean i know what i mean but its hard putting it in words so you all understand me

I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them.


 



rj001 ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 8:29 AM

gather a few screen shots - we'll try to help

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 9:12 AM · edited Mon, 12 May 2008 at 9:13 AM
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CD: It's just a case of breaking down the object you want into smaller chunks. And then grouping them back together.

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Rayraz ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 12:06 PM

Quote - I think that the thing about booleans is that if you start simple you can quickly work up to complicated.

I seem to remember a quote from a sculpterer. It went something like this:
"The statue is already there in the rock. I just chip off the parts that aren't the statue."

If you find the idea of booleans worrying, just create a cube and make it positive. Then create a cylinder and make it negative. Set the cylinder into the cube - doesn't really matter where - and group! Observe what happens!

The possibilities are endless.

haha Bryster thats an old surfers quote! The surfboard is already in the tree, you just gotta find it.

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Ray

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TheBryster ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2008 at 1:23 PM
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Get outa here! :lol:

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


Tanglimara ( ) posted Fri, 16 May 2008 at 9:55 AM

I agree entirely that a Bryce challenge should only allow the use of Bryce. I'll get modelling with those Bryce primitives straight away. Great idea brholte, particularly as I love modelling with Bryce primitives. This challenge will show just what people can achieve not only artistically but technically as well.


lunchworks ( ) posted Mon, 19 May 2008 at 2:20 PM

I'm curious if postwork can be done with Photoshop.  I like to use the masking tool in Bryce and add in final touches (light effects, clouds, etc) in Photoshop.  But al arcitecture will be made through Bryce.  Is that okay?


RodsArt ( ) posted Mon, 19 May 2008 at 2:52 PM

Here's the scoop on PW

***Postwork:

**Post work should be used tastefully. The over all theme here is architecture and cityscapes, so feel free to use post work for color enhancements, DOF, or creating textures. 

You have a couple options, though it is limited. I would say layering the comp for anything but DOF is out.

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lunchworks ( ) posted Mon, 19 May 2008 at 4:53 PM

I know this is going to sound stupid, but what does DOF mean?


RodsArt ( ) posted Mon, 19 May 2008 at 5:23 PM · edited Mon, 19 May 2008 at 5:24 PM

Depth of Field.

(typically creating a blurry background for the appearence of depth)

......and no question is a dumb question, it's just a question. :)

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HERBshines ( ) posted Wed, 28 May 2008 at 1:52 PM

I sent U the thumbnail as well as the main file both are .Jpg's . I attached them to this reply . please
enter them in the BryceFroum Challenge: Architechture. Cause I can't fine where to Upload an Image except for here.....Thanky U....HERBshines.


RodsArt ( ) posted Wed, 28 May 2008 at 3:01 PM

Herb,

Your Entry has been approved.

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HERBshines ( ) posted Wed, 28 May 2008 at 7:06 PM

I believe this to be an Incredible Challenge.  ALL depending on How much detailing U want to put into this ARt. Like anything else in life U need question, and usually there are more of them than answers. U could make each one alittle jewel,  and very precious.  I'm waiting to post my ART to this Forum for hours, When U guys can answer me, with why and where has the upload mask/templete vanished too form this afternoon, please advise me.  Email to:
hrWanger@aol.com       ..................Thanky U, for  "  Time & Energy  "

I'm Attaching my files again, or trying too.


RodsArt ( ) posted Thu, 29 May 2008 at 7:31 AM

HERBshines:
Not sure if you mean you want to post your image to the gallery, Challenge Entry, or the forum??

Your Challenge Entry has already been approved and is posted along with the other entries on the "Entry Page".

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RodsArt ( ) posted Mon, 09 June 2008 at 5:34 AM

Question for brholte:

Are the contestants allowed to submit multiple entries?

This wasn't covered in the initial conversation....my bad.

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brholte ( ) posted Mon, 09 June 2008 at 5:38 AM

I don't see why not.  I believe its been allowed in previous challenges.  If you want my final word on the question, then I say yes.


rj001 ( ) posted Mon, 09 June 2008 at 5:52 AM

And where exactly am i going to find the time to do another image!!!!

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

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RodsArt ( ) posted Mon, 09 June 2008 at 5:58 AM · edited Mon, 09 June 2008 at 6:00 AM

OK......Officially: Mutliple Entries are Allowed!

LOL

rj: Your work is soooooo extensive it can count for two entries!!

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rj001 ( ) posted Mon, 09 June 2008 at 6:43 AM · edited Mon, 09 June 2008 at 6:44 AM

file_407962.jpg

Okay this is it, My Official OTHER entry - 'Goodies #48 The End'. Mwahahahahahahaha Runs away going *'i'm a teapot'*

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

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dhama ( ) posted Mon, 09 June 2008 at 10:02 AM

So how does one upload another entry, since that part of the entry page no longer exists after entering initially?


RodsArt ( ) posted Mon, 09 June 2008 at 3:36 PM

I'll re-set for multiple-watchamacallits

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ThunderStone ( ) posted Mon, 09 June 2008 at 9:31 PM

ICM, I don't see the entry form to upload the entry to the challenge. Could you please check it again?

Thanks.


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RodsArt ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 7:28 PM

Entry page has been reset for Multiple Entries.

This is probably the last Challenge for Multi-entries judging on member opinion.

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dhama ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2008 at 5:24 AM

Sorry ICM, I was following the other thread and so thought it wasn't going to happen now. As a result, i've already posted it in my gallery so can no longer enter it. :b_sad:


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