Hello,
I have had to get a new puter. this is both good and bad. good, better processor, more mem, etc..
BUT,
it has vista.
now...I remember a whole slew of problems with vista and graphic programs. BUT has any of it been resolved?
I do not really want vista. I want my XP and I have the disc in hand I'll use it I mean it.
-is- it better to run the progs through XP?

I have had Vista for a while and I constantly have problems. Lately, Poser 7 won't even open for me. I've lost my hobby . . .

I have heard when you have a new computer that it is suppose to be a better expereince. I updated mine and not much worked - Poser did not work at all originally.

Do a search in the files here in the forums, and you will find postings that helped me. You need to switch some preferences. I think the problem was with OpenGL. . . I am not tecnigcal enough to fully understand this, but moving that to the other option worked to improve it for me.

Good Luck. You can make it work. I feel your pain.

My next computer will be a Mac - I am so turned off by Microsoft that I will never buy another PC.

Tim

Well fortunately I'm on the other side of the fence, I have Vista and have nothing but praise for it!!
It is a strange new beast and does need training to your ways, but once you've done that it's great!!
If you have issues just pm me and I'll see if I can walk you through them, it would help to know which version of Vista you're running!!

I got vista when it was first released on my desktop and used it for over 6 months and everything worked perfectly. This was when most of the issues in vista still existed, now they have release service pack 1 and most aplications are even supposed to work with it. However after getting my laptop some 5 months ago (moved to a new country without my dekstop) i have had a lot of problems with vista and 3d aplications.
Most games run fine but whenever i try to use poser and/or vue i keep getting crashes. Ive tried most fixes around but it still doesnt work well with poser at all.
Since im tired of having to spend 3 times the amount of time im supposed to on each image im going to throw vista out and get xp x64 and ubuntu on my second laptop.
I figured if i want fancy windows i might as well use ubuntu, and from what i have heard xp 64 seems to run both vue, poser and other 3d aplications perfectly.
So i guess it varies from computer to computer (drivers etc).
Just my 2 rather long cents....

well, I was able to load poser, I was able to render at a very high res and a rather large 2000x2000 and it didnt seem to have an issue.
what about adobe cs2? what about things like gimp?
I have vista home premium. came with the tower.

**DarkElegance: ** I use Vista Ultimate 64 with Poser 6 and 7, Vue6Infinite, Photoshop CS3, Hexagon2.
I had my system hand built in the local PC store from scratch, no problems that I associate with Vista!

I had Vista put on the computer I have had built for me. I can run Poser Pro, Carrara, Vue etc. just fine. Most of my issues with Vista are stupid things they did with it, which don't really affect any graphics stuff. I do know that my graphics driver crashes a LOT, and it's brand new (since my pc is like a month old) and says I have the most recent update. That is a major annoyance with me :-)

-Sarah

Hi, Vista 64 Ultimate here and Poser 7 and even 6 run fine, The only problems since day one have been related to the nVidia drivers using openGl mode  which in Poser only affect the preview screen or render anyway. For a while before sr3 openGl was also working in preview mode without hassles, but since sr3, SreeD is way better being very stable.  With enough ram Poser preview and renders are faster than XP Pro on my machines anyway. Another horrible culprit can be the anti-virus you use. Windows new Live version actually runs fine as does TrendMicro. At one point I tried CA because it runs on Vista, was on Microsoft's certified Vista list and is the choice of Fortune 500 companies. While that company claimed no perceptual slowdown of the system with use, I found it to be just the opposite, It's safety features were more cumbersome than Vista's AC. and even surfing on a fast connection was slower than a regular modem due it's constant preview checking.   Hope this helps.
Regards...

Haven't had but one problem with vista and SR3 solved that plus if you haven't tried the voice recognition software on vista free just turn it on! your  missing one of its greatest features. I wrote a magazine article and never typed a word!!

I run Vista Ultimate 64bit with all 3D applications that i own (like Poser 7/6 ..4 ... - whatever version, they are all running- Vue 6 Infinite - Carrara 6 - Bryce 6 - ZBrush 3 - Hexagon 2 - OpenCanvas - Manga Studio - PaintShopProX2 - tested Cinema4D - tested Maxwell Renderer - tested Quidam - and more ...) , using test versions of 3D programs or whatever, lots of games, music programs, video programs and, and, and ... it's working great, i've got a lot more options and possibilities in Vista then i get with WinXP, with the build in stuff.
And  if someone says, they can add all and more options to WinXP like Vista has build in, you are installing a lot of potential problem causing programs and Problem is, the more foreign programs you install on your Operating System, the more crap is installed, that can mess up your OS, if it's not programmed in a clean manner, which you can't know by just installing and using it. Plus, those things could slow down your OS in certain areas, too.

I'm always installing all the available Microsoft Vista updates coming in automatically and Vista gets better and better. If you are using the newest hardware, i would recommend using Vista 64bit, since it knows a lot more about new hardware and can handle it right from the start, where XP starts to struggle slowly but surely, because of it's old base core programming and fading support in the near future.

All of the computers in our household are now Windows XP free - and they run great, even after 2 times rebuilding them from scratch, Vista worked right away as it was before the hardware change, only asking for the new mainboard chipset drivers, because each mainboard uses different chips to control the system and interfaces.
I don't miss WinXP now - i worked with it from the time, it came to the market the first time - replacing my Windows 98.

Everyone using PCs and Windows OS for a long time - do you remember the same flaming and shouting against the "new" Windows XP replacing Windows 98 and ME like now Vista trying to replace WinXP ?!  Windows XP had the same starting problems like Vista had - the bad driver and program support ! But that's changed now for Vista - there is a good driver for everything now and it's working flawless - at least for me it does.

One good hint :   if you leave the PC and hardware running as it's suppose to (stop overclocking your hardware to the edge of existence), stop installing insane software, which fiddles around in the depth of the Operating System and your hardware, because little changes could work on the one side, but cause extreme problems on something else and you don't even know, what's causing it ... Since i leave my OS and hardware running in it's regular state, i haven't had any problem anymore (i'm working with computers since 1982 - and building my own PCs since 1992 ... and i finally got sick of all the problems of overclocking and tweaking software or whatever - and now it pays off).

And now the shouters and flamers against WinXP are fighting for WinXP like maniacs now and AGAINST Vista ... it's the same story again, just a few years and a new OS later ...

Again, if you run older hardware and not enough Ram (like 2 GB is the base for Vista, better more, but the prices for Ram right now are very low ...) then run Windows XP, but if you want to use now and future hardware the right way, get a higher Vista version. For 3D programs or graphic and 3d intense programs i would recommend Vista 64bit (because it can use more than the 2,5 GB Ram barrier from 32bit OS per application) and lots of Ram (4 GB and more).

I've got Vista Home Premium, and all is working well.

Sort of.

It didn't like the latest Nvidia driver 175.19. Poser got along with it, but Vista itself crashes after a boot up.

So I rolled back to 175.16. Both Poser and Vista like that one... finally :)

-- Jeff

I am totally agree with Arraxxon.My experience with computers since 1985 looks like his experience
Now i have Vista 64bits installed on a new system and i am happy with it using many 2d-3d programs

I am totally agree with Arraxxon.My experience with computers since 1985 looks like his experience
Now i have Vista 64bits installed on a new system and i am happy with it using many 2d-3d programs

While i like a lot of the things in vista, using hardware more effectivly isnt one of the things it do very well.
At least not if a majority of the benchmarks are to be believed. Now they did fix a lot of issues in Service Pack 1, but a well optimised xp still run most aplications better then a well optimised vista. Now when it comes to x64 its very hard to compare vista with xp since vista have both and XP only have 32 bit, the x64 XP is actually based on windows server 2003.
When using 3d aplications i would say that x64 is a MUST, not being able to allocate more then 2gb ram to any single process is very limiting.
So for optimal speed and performance i would go with XP x64, for usuability and overall "good feel" i would go with Vista x64.
Not going to bring up linux since it cant really run any decent aplications for CG in the first place.
But if things work well and there is no need for more speed then id go with vista any day over XP, since it much less of a hassle to configure and secure properly, and it looks way better :)

*Not going to bring up linux since it cant really run any decent aplications for CG in the first place.

not exactly true anymore. you can get Maya for Linux, and I myself am running Hexagon 2.5, Carrara 5, trueSpace, poser 6 and UVmapper on Ubuntu 8.04 (Using Wine which is easy to do). oh and there was a Lightwave rendernode system for linux awhile back... *

*oh.. and you've seen Cars, the Incredibles and Wall-E? yup.. Pixar's  Renderman is also on Linux.. *

well I am digging out my adobe CD to install...O.o...poser seems to be doing ok....
So far so good.:)

Yeah i know that it is possible to run some aplications under linux, but Wine cant really be trusted, as soon as a new version is released the things that might have worked the last 10 updates might just stop working again, and for a NORMAL user its not really "easy to do" imo.
I agree that it is an alternative but you have to be prepared to spend several hours to get things to work and also might not be able to get all the plugins/features you would otherwise get within minutes under windows.
Personally i just started using linux so im no expert, but i would say i know a lot more about computers then the average guy (i work with tech support).
So far my experience is that linux is a much better OS then windows, but you need to be motivated enough to work your way thru the problems that will, eventually, arise if you plan on using the same aplications as in windows.
But yes, its a very valid alternative, and in some specific cases, a better one, i agree :)

I can run Linux as a Virtual PC in Vista or WinXP, too, so a lot of the "Linux stuff" is working there, too ...
But Emulator attachements aren't really an alternative for me ...
I like to use an application in a OS it's made for - examples like Pixar with Renderman aren't really surprising, using Linux OS - they for sure use it most likely on Linux because it's more safe in Networks, because not overrun by millions and millions of users all over the world ... but since i'm a private user, i don't need to keep my non-existing multi-million dollar tricks and work a secret ...

At the end it's all up to the individual user, what they have running. Advices are nice, but for sure are a lot subjective driven and won't work as overall solutions - i gave only my opinion and what i have experienced so far.
There is probably no perfect solution to find in the PC market with it's many, many hardware components  and software combinations.

erm Wine is Not an Emulator ;)

" Myth 1: "Wine is slow because it is an emulator"

When users think of emulators, they think of programs like Dosbox or zsnes. These applications run as virtual machines and are slow, having to emulate each processor instruction. Wine does not do any CPU emulation - hence the name "Wine Is Not an Emulator."

Some people argue that since Wine introduces an extra layer above the system a Windows application will run slowly. While technically true, Wine is no different from any other software library in this regard; even newer versions of Windows must load extra resources to support older applications.

Importantly, the combination of Wine and Unix can sometimes be faster than Windows itself. This is especially true when the system has good drivers and the application isn't exposing any Performance Related Bugs*."

http://wiki.winehq.org/Debunking_Wine_Myths

as to your notes on pixar's renderman...I don't have a clue what you mean? it seems you think A: they built on linux for security? (they built Renderman on Linux back in 89 when windows networking was still shaky and they ran it on the old O2 workstations ) and B: it costs millions (same as 3D Studio Max actually).

Do i get the feeling that vista is no longer the main subject of this thread? :P
Either way, poser work fine under vista, most of the time :)