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Subject: Weird doings in Poser 7


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:04 AM · edited Sat, 23 November 2024 at 1:12 PM

I am sooooooo extremely frustrated with P7, I am ready to box it up, run out the door, across the sand, and drop kick it to the fishes.  Let them play with it!

I have had intermittant problems with it from day one.  It shuts down for no particular reason, etc, etc, etc.  All the SR's have been applied. 

My latest problem is in getting ready to package several items for sale.

1:  I imported the object, went to the material room, applied the image-map and settings, saved it to the library.  All the material selections appear in Poser''s Material Library...I can select them , apply the different textures...no problem.  When I go to Explore and choose the path to the Material Library...I can see my folder, no problem.  However, opening that folder presents me with nothing...it is empty!  No textures, no images, nada, zip, nothing...just plain old white space.

2.  i imported the obj files to a folder in Geometries...  this time I can see the content in my folder in explore.... but am getting zip in Poser.  My file is empty in Poser.   So I tried doing one item as a Prop.   It appears as a prop in the Poser's Prop Library.  Allows me to add it to a scene.....but when looking in explore....the folder is once again empty.

Obviously I am missing something... I have followed every tut I could find to a tee...but nothing seems to work correctly.  Does anyone have a clue as to what could be wrong or to what I am NOT doing correctly?

Help, please..... or the fishes can have fun figuring out what to do with the package.

By the way, did I mention I am on Vista....would that have anything to do with it?

Thanks in advance....any assistance will be most appreciated.


coocooFORcocoapuffs ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:23 AM · edited Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:27 AM

Ha! Make it swim with the fishes as my Italian uncle would say. That sounds odd for poser 7, which i have only used on a mac and in XP. Never a problem like that, or any other really that was not caused by human error. Now Poser 6 was a hole nother story. Well, hope someone here can help!
coocoo

oh, by the way have u reset the preferences and failing that, perhaps a reinstall? and then watch this video for a laugh if you have to reinstall Vista too...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyTnTdijog



PhilC ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:29 AM

Where are your textures stored initially? Applying them to a figure or prop using the Material room will not move the files, nor make a copy of them within the Poser Runtime. Are the texture files still in the original folder?


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:42 AM

Lol...thanks for the laught Coocoo!

Phil, I put the textures in the texture folder I created for that purpose....but now you have me wondering if I am pullling them from there.   I checked...yes, I am.  I deleted what I had done previously, redid the material for one item.....but when checking in explore the folder I set up in Materials is still empty.


coocooFORcocoapuffs ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:49 AM

u might also benefit from that free program 3DPO (poser runtime viewer utility) if missing files is a problem.  good luck!



Adom ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:56 AM

Maybe you have more then one runtime and just checking the wrong one (Poser do save its files somewere:)


PhilC ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:59 AM

What is the name of the file you expected to find there? (name+extension)

If you use the search option in Explorer to search your entire hard drive does it find the file?


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:14 AM

A search finds the jpg file in the textures folder I created in Textures....but finds no other instance.


Adom ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:18 AM · edited Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:24 AM

I understood that you coudn't find those mc6s files which were created by poser and if so then you should search for *.mt5 (where * stands for the name you typed in poser)


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:28 AM · edited Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:32 AM

The mc6 file does not appear in a search.  As I said before the folder I created in the Materials Library, so I could transfer the info to the Pose Library. is empty.  I searched all of P7...and it does not appear anywhere.

I can howver go to Materials in P7...and it shows my object with the textures applied.  I can click on each texture and change  the appearance...and render....but nothing shows in the Material file in explore.

If it helps, the path  on my pc is:  Program Files/efrontier/Poser7/Runtime/Libraries/Materials/SandDancr/SS-ModLounge


PhilC ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:28 AM

When you save a material Poser create a *.mt5 file. A material collection is saved as a *.mc6 file. The texture files are not copied to the Material folder they remain where ever you stored them, in this instance the Texture folder. The mt5 and mc6 files contain references to those textures.


Adom ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:34 AM

I read my post again and small mistake came up. First I mentioned about mc6 but later on I wrote a correct extention mt5. But now:
As PhilC says Poser doesn't do anything to your textures it only writes references to them with extentions mt5 (mc6) and what you see in Poser Library is that reference. So I assume you cannot find those references, am I right?


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:39 AM

Yes, you are right....they can't be found anywhere.


artposer ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:43 AM

Okay this is easy!!  Go to your Material room and in the render window click on your object see where the file is selected or stored? Right click on that folder and copy it and make a shortcut to it on your desktop. follow it that way. For some reason Poser does not show the runtime folders and in some cases the textures or object files so you have to go in another way.. thats how I do it when I am making textures for my charchters or editing an object file.. Hope this helps


Adom ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:44 AM

If in your poser preferences "use file compression" option is checked then those extensions are going to be different:

mt5 = mz5 (I think so)
mc6 = mcz


PhilC ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:48 AM

Do you have file compression turned on in your Poser preferences?

If so are you searching for *.mt5 or *.mz5 ? *.mc6 or *.mcz ?


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:52 AM

File compression is not turned on... should it be?   I was searching for mc6.  I have to run out for a bit...but will check back in when I return,


Adom ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 11:55 AM

You can leave it off but you should run a search for *.MT5.
And I AM 100% SURE you will find them.


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 2:34 PM

No, a search for blueleopard.mt5 turns up nothing.   I get nothing regardeless of what extension I use.  The only thing that shows up at all are the jpg's in the texture folder


Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 2:42 PM · edited Tue, 21 October 2008 at 2:45 PM

The problem is you're on Vista and those files are hidden. I ran into the same thing until I started storing an external runtime on my desktop and worked from there.   Doing that, everything was visible. Annoying but that's Vista's way of protecting you from ...you. 

There should be a way to unhide system/hidden files but I don't recall it. If you make a scene collection and save it to a runtime on your desktop though, it's likely that everything will show up and should  - should - be in the proper places.


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 2:48 PM

I know how to unhide...so will try that and if that fails, will try it on the desktop.  Will get back and let ya'll know if that works.

I do have a few friends on Vista...and they don't have this problem...so not sure it is a Vista problem...but we shall see.


Adom ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 3:03 PM

I'm on vista as well and everything seems to be fine. BTW you can try find your thumbnail that was created by poser:
You said: blueleopard.mt5 then try blueleopard.png.
If nothing comes up then give it to the fishes.


SandDancr ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 3:28 PM

Ahhhh, the poor fishes are going to be deprived...... it works by putting it on the Desktop...just not inside Poser 7.

I checked and all my files were already unhidden...so for some reason P7 won't put them where you want in P7...but by trying Teyon's idea of using a desktop Runtime...I magically have files!

Thank you all for helping to discover the problem...I appreciate it more than you can imagine.  In fact, I'll give you all a free copy of the product, just for being so helpful, if you like.  Just pm me with your email.

Thanks again!


Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 4:47 PM

Glad to be of help. :)


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