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Subject: Spotting textures


Klebnor ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 2:40 PM · edited Thu, 28 November 2024 at 10:49 AM

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Does anyone know what causes this spotting of textures?

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


sparrownightmare ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 2:48 PM

Did you check to make sure the actual texture map file hasn't become corrupted?


Klebnor ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 3:32 PM

Thanks for the response, sparrownightmare.

That was my first assumption, so I changed textures a couple of times with no change in the spotting effect.  I doesn't seem to be a texture or shader problem.  I also tried changing lights.  I still get this effect.  I wonder if the artifacts are memory related, there's a lot going on in the scene.

Klebnor

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


sparrownightmare ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 3:34 PM

That's possible.  Have you tried switching render engines between software and OpenGL?


bwtr ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 3:55 PM

Is it something that has come from Poser7?

Brian

bwtr


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 4:17 PM

it appears to be an AO./ photon count/interpolation problem.
post screencap of render settings.



Klebnor ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 5:48 PM

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I'm using Carrara, I was not aware alternative render engines were available?

Brian, the background is a Carrara Terrain and Realistic Sky and in the foreground is a Danie Maforno object and V4.2 with a texture and clothing.

Attached is a render.  You can see that the spotting only seems to affect the skin texture.  I have not touched the skin shaders, and have tried applying different skin textures.

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


Klebnor ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 5:49 PM

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Here are my render settings.

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


holyforest ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 7:06 PM

Maybe the problem is issued by ambiant occlusion.
Try to adjust the paramater to 2.5 ft...

 
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Holyforest,
Hundreds of shaders for Carrara


Klebnor ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 7:31 PM

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Well, I found the problem after much experimentation.  I had adjusted the scene magnitude (interface tab with Scene highlighted) to small so that adjustments could be made.  I left it there, and it screws up the rendering.  When I adjusted it back to large, the texture cleared up.

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


sparrownightmare ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 7:33 PM

LMAO.  It's always the simple things eh?  :)


Klebnor ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 7:35 PM

Absolutely!  Lots of head scratching on that one.

I put the full version in my gallery due to size limit on forum.

Klebnor

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


sparrownightmare ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 7:38 PM

I'll take a look.


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 7:39 PM

o.k., kleb, glad to know ya got rid of the artifacts.  there are various adjustments
to those render settings that ringo, litst and the other developers put in there
to enhance realism, but they do add greatly to the render time when set at
maximum quality.



sparrownightmare ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 7:41 PM

Looks good but Miss Nancy is right.  You could greatly enhance the realism using a higher level of textures.  What you can do depends on your system's capabilities but my Phenom X4 system has no problems with max settings unless I use too many poser characters. :)


ren_mem ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 8:10 PM

Quote - o.k., kleb, glad to know ya got rid of the artifacts.  there are various adjustments
to those render settings that ringo, litst and the other developers put in there
to enhance realism, but they do add greatly to the render time when set at
maximum quality.

Not sure about litst, but ringo isn't a dev. or are you referring to a PA product?

No need to think outside the box....
    Just make it invisible.


bwtr ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 8:44 PM

The whole point about Carrara is that you can make your own, personal, "vicky/Michael type person", without importing what is made by others in other apps--that are NOT Poser or D/S made originally anyway either!.

So much of the real joy of 3D modelling being circumvented by using model importation.--with all it's problems.

Brian

bwtr


sparrownightmare ( ) posted Sun, 28 December 2008 at 8:46 PM

That's why I generally prefer to use as much content as I can that I created myself.  I only use Poser figures for characters because I stink at humanoid form modeling. LOL


Klebnor ( ) posted Mon, 29 December 2008 at 8:11 AM

I agree, although its hard to resist dashing off a composed scene when something catches the eye.  I have enough trouble with relatively primitive content, I don't think I'll be trying any human figures for years.  As a relatively recent convert from poser to Carrara, I am still enjoying learning and experimenting with all the available lighting effects.

Playing with render settings is next.

Thanks for all the help and input.

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


holyforest ( ) posted Mon, 29 December 2008 at 6:02 PM

 Excellent agenda for 2009 !

 
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Holyforest,
Hundreds of shaders for Carrara


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Mon, 29 December 2008 at 10:23 PM

Ringo n'était pas un développeur de carrara? ¡mon dieu!



bwtr ( ) posted Mon, 29 December 2008 at 11:06 PM

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Just a bit of fun modeled in MoI for Carrara. HEY!, Nurbs modelling, not Poly?

Brian

bwtr


Klebnor ( ) posted Tue, 30 December 2008 at 3:58 PM

Brian:

Very interesting.   Is the pattern on the dress (cloak?) a procedural shader or a texture?

Klebnor

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


bwtr ( ) posted Tue, 30 December 2008 at 5:53 PM · edited Tue, 30 December 2008 at 5:58 PM

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Klebnor It's just one of the sevaral proceedural shaders that come free with the DCG Enhance C plugin. A fantastic plugin well worth the money---other big apps wish for it!.

Brian
The attached shows the current files I have in the Shader Browser  EnhanceC folder.

bwtr


Klebnor ( ) posted Tue, 30 December 2008 at 6:05 PM

Cool.  If you wanted a more detailed texture, is there an easy way to tile the shader (ie make it appear more than once on the object) without individual zones?

Klebnor

Lotus 123 ~ S-Render ~ OS/2 WARP ~ IBM 8088 / 4.77 Mhz ~ Hercules Ultima graphics, Hitachi 10 MB HDD, 64K RAM, 12 in diagonal CRT Monitor (16 colors / 60 Hz refresh rate), 240 Watt PS, Dual 1.44 MB Floppies, 2 button mouse input device.  Beige horizontal case.  I don't display my unit.


bwtr ( ) posted Tue, 30 December 2008 at 7:19 PM

Yes.
Pretty basic stuff for almost every shader.

Brian

bwtr


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