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Subject: How long does it take?


Burpee ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2009 at 11:01 AM · edited Thu, 09 January 2025 at 2:32 PM

Hello, I had posted an image the other day and got a notice last night that the thumb contained nudity and they needed another thumb.  In my opinion it does not contain any nudity but I can see how someone might be offended so I sent off a thumb of just the face.  It's been over 12 hours and the image is still under review.

What's going on?  Thanks.


Rutra ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2009 at 11:20 AM

When I had a similar case, months ago, the process was very fast. The image was unblocked in minutes. But I guess it probably depends on how busy the moderators/reviewers are with other things at the moment, or what time it is in the timezone where the moderators are.


Burpee ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2009 at 11:45 AM

Thanks Rutra, you have viewed my art before and know that I don't do pornography or naked people.  I would never have put up an image of bare skin.  This character has scales all over her and hides any breast skin.  I would have marked it as containing nudity if I thought it did. 

Of course next time I'll do it just to be cautious.


bobbystahr ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2009 at 12:10 PM

 As a head's up these concerns should be brought up via an e mail to admin@renderosity.com. and not posted to a forum.

I would recommend a thorough re read of the TOS to prevent future problems with fore knowledge.

 

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I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


Burpee ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2009 at 12:20 PM · edited Thu, 15 January 2009 at 12:26 PM

Thank you and sorry.  I will do so immediately.  You may delete this thread if you feel it should be. 

Edit- seems to be fixed now.  Last time I checked it was not but now it is.


ArtPearl ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2009 at 12:40 PM · edited Thu, 15 January 2009 at 12:42 PM

Bobby,
Why shouldnt she bring it up in the forum? she didnt include the "offending" image, just asked for other people's experience in similar matters. As she said, she didnt think there was a problem with her image, or she wouldnt have posted it without warning. From the same reason she wouldnt have asked admin first. The border between what is acceptable and what isnt in terms of nudity in posted images isnt that clear cut so honest mistakes can be made.
I think she's done well to post it here not only to clarify things for yourself but it will also 'warn' others.
Thank you Burpee.
Btw, adding a nudity warning when it isnt needed isnt a solution either, there was a thread on Pser forum where someone's image was taken of becuse he flaged it and according to the mods it wasnt.
His 'crime' was that it is misleading the viewers... how funny is that?

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
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Burpee ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2009 at 1:01 PM

To be honest, I am afraid to tag something with a nudity tag, unless it is blatant nudity,  for fear people will think I'm tagging it in hopes of more views.  I understand that everyone views nudity differently and some people can be offended by images treading a fine line.  I lost an internet friend who was offended that I moderated a forum, for awhile, that allowed complete nudity in the galleries.  One has to be careful when they post and I should have been more diligent.


Rutra ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2009 at 1:59 PM

I have seen many images in Renderosity without nudity but that still are much more offensive than many images with nudity. IMHO, being offensive is not about nudity, it's about attitude. But it's hard to make a rule about attitude, and it's easy to make one about nudity. Unfortunetaly, this completely misses the real point, IMHO.


chrispoole ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 7:47 AM

I entered a competition here a while back and it was reviewed, they had clothes on and it was the first image I did with any showing flesh LoL.
Personally, i'm greatly concerned about Vue becoming the next Poser (things thrown together for a quick fix) only with better scenery and lighting, this would IMHO be a travesty and the Vue community deserve much much more.

Chris


Burpee ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 3:56 PM

Chris, I probably fall into that catergory since I like to work with people and animals closeup.  I started with Bryce and DazStudio and went to Vue and D/S.  I own Poser6 but I never learned to use it.  I'd like to though, as when you import from Poser, the bump is automatically changed to whatever you have the conversion set to....think it's around .08 or such.  When I create in D/S and import to Vue, I have to change the transparency maps and fix the bump on all my textures.   Maybe I missed a setting somewhere but the amount of time it takes to fix everything has kept me from creating anything of late.  I'm not a landscape kine of person.  I love landscapes and viewing others efforts but they are not what move me to create.


Angelsinger ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 5:39 PM · edited Fri, 16 January 2009 at 5:40 PM

Quote -  As a head's up these concerns should be brought up via an e mail to admin@renderosity.com. and not posted to a forum...

I'm glad Burpee brought it up. I now know that a character that "has scales all over" which "hides any breast skin" is a no-no in the thumbs.

'Cause personally, I thought it was actual nudity in the thumbs that would cause an image to be yanked; not scaly, no-breast-skin thumbs. Or a thumb featuring a different texture that doesn't show the skin upon breasts.

So this member is now even more well informed, thanks to burpee. (Because I have read the TOS and wouldn't have interpreted them to mean that such a thumb was considered a violation).


Rutra ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 6:01 PM · edited Fri, 16 January 2009 at 6:02 PM

So, small breasts covered with scales is nudity...

But big breasts covered with a tiny cloth, is not? See here: 
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1815516

And some more big breasts "painted" with a second skin, is not? See here:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1815467

Both these images show the "covered" breasts in the thumbnail and are not flagged nudity.

Where's the difference? In the color of the paint?

You have to admit, that's really funny... :-)


Burpee ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 6:02 PM · edited Fri, 16 January 2009 at 6:07 PM

Hello Angelsinger!  I was thinking that perhaps someone complained about the image and that caused the moderators to freeze it.    I wasn't upset over the restriction but rather the length of time it took to fix the problem.  I so seldom post an image that is questionable that I forget about the thumb restrictions.  If I hadn't forgotten I would have made the thumb with the face only but not flagged it as nudity just to be cautious.  I'd forget my head if it wasn't already attached, lol.

Edit- Hey Rutra, cross posted, lol.


ArtPearl ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 6:41 PM

Burpee, I cant see anyone being offended by your image. Rutra is right, they follow the letter of their TOS rules but not their spirit...
In case you think the moderators are always quick to respond to complaints from viewers - I complained about an offensive image (not nudity) yesterday and there was no action yet, neither to remove it nor to tell me they dont think it's offensive.  (An additional e-mail to admin yielded the answer 'you'll be told when we meat to discuss it')So what's the point? meanwhile it continues to offend... Whatever they think should happen, in your case or mine, it should happen swiftly.
Btw, instead of waiting for the image to be restored, couldnt you just delete (or ignore) that one, and resubmit it as a new image with the appropriate thumb-nail?

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
http://artpearl.redbubble.com/


chrispoole ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 6:56 PM

Hey Burpee,

I didn't mean those that use Poser, D/S etc. for figures in Vue, otherwise I'd be a hippocrate and I certainly didn't mean you, your gallery is varied and the figures have a reason to be their and it's excellent as well.
I just mean those that throw together a few items, render and produce Ken and Barby on the beach and the finished render is dire and everybody says it's awesome.
We're all guilty of that from time to time, but at least we try and better ourselves and not always nudity.

Cheers
Chris


Burpee ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 7:16 PM

Thanks so much Chris, that is very generous.  I do understand what you mean completely.


Bea ( ) posted Fri, 16 January 2009 at 7:19 PM

Surely it would be easier if the mod jsut flagged the image with a generic thumbnail and that would allow the artisit to jsut upload a new thumbnail (wouldn't it?)


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