Congratulations Jen! 

I hope people realize,  rejection can be a good thing. It builds character and will put hair on your chest.

Patorak me! I wanna see that! Pleaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeee.

Thanks.

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I've never been one to buy the usual stuff -- I took V3 out once, put it back, took M3 out maybe twice, put it back -- and V4 and M4 both are long gathering dust in my archive. So I'm probably not the best to gauge such things. Nevertheless, as biased as it might sound, I agree that a potential merchant should go for uniqueness, something sadly lacking in all of the markets these days. Now, yes, there are notable exceptions: AntFarm at DAZ is about the only PA I'll buy from there now because his stuff is so wonderfully warped and yet useful. I found a merchant here (Teknology3D? I think that's right) who has a full range of things for the Gumdrop series, and I couldnt snap those up fast enough.

Thing is, I'm not unique in that respect. There are several users whose Poser life doesnt revolve around the Showgirl and her various iterations. And the merchant who notices us quickly finds a very loyal following, because when there's not that much to begin with, you stick with the ones who, knowingly or not, cater to your needs. Hell, even Lady Littlefox herself has long said she doesnt model to please the market: she models to please herself -- and it shows. Her products arent just toons: they're whimsical and enchanting and appeal to a very select -- but again, very loyal -- market segment that has stayed with her for years. She could model the phone book, and I'm sure many people would buy it, just because it has her name on it.

So if the PTB at the Rosity MP are telling you that they're oversaturated with V4 stuff, the solution seems pretty simple: make something else. M4 might have a lot of support now, but trust me: in a few weeks, that will change -- and that's a void that someone will have to fill. Sure, it might not be the big sales numbers, but stay with it, and you'll find the sales numbers consistent. And these days, that's the best any of us can hope for.

Sean you're right.  Personally, I would like to see a thousand different Poser figures than one figure with a thousand outfits.

Personally, I am glad to see that RMP as a whole has become much pickier about what they allow into the marketplace over the past couple years.  As a community of Poser artists, we as a whole are growing and changing and as a result we demand better and better products.  Look up the what's new page sometime and skip back to some of the furthest back pages.  In general there was nowhere near the quality in products that far back as there is today.  Now look at this from the view of being a potential vendor.  Your products need to meet or exceed the quality that is being put out NOW.  You need to present your product in a way that FULLY shows the products best features and capabilites, as after all it is either accepted or rejected on those promos alone in the initial stages.

You also need to be prepared to deal with rejection.  This is hard to understand for most folks.  You post an image in the gallery here and you will be greeted with post after post of "gorgeous!"  "What a wonderful image!" "Superb! A+++"  I'm sorry, but that is not a critique, it is at best a-- kissing.  After hearing such comments time after time it deludes one into this sense that they are wonderful and can do no wrong.  And then they create a product, submit it, and then can't understand why it is rejected and feel bitter about it.

Rejection is not a bad thing.  As an artist you will pour your heart and soul into a creation, so understandably it feels very personal.  You need to learn that rejection of your work is not nearly as personal as it seems.  Rejection is something that you should use in a positive way to learn and grow as an artist.  For me personally, I have a group of great friends (huggles for all my TAC wenches) who are artists as well that I look to for criticism that know I expect nothing less than complete honesty.  I expect them to "make it hurt" when I ask them to look something over.  Seeing what is wrong with something I have done is the only way for me to learn how to make it better.  There is always room to learn and grow, and understanding this is the only way to become good at what you do, whether you want to become a vendor or just produce good art.

As a community of Poser artists, we as a whole are growing and changing and as a result we demand better and better products

Prices should really reflect this as well.  I mean $20.00 - $30.00 bucks gimme a break.

You think you should pay less for better quality?  I'm sorry if I can't quite follow that logic.

I mean the vendors should charge more!

Scroll up to Capt America,  that's the high end version which I'll probably charge $300.00

Ahh yes.  In many regards I have to agree, I definately think the Poser market is quite behind in pricing.  Unfortunately such a large portion of the market base are hobbyists, that would whine over paying $20-$30 for a high quality model.

Capt. America up there looks great btw :D  My mind just boggles when it comes to modelling anything more detailed than a beach ball lol.

You're right and I say let 'em take up another hobby.   Vendors have bills to pay.

Thanks,  glad you like him.  The reason for the $300.00 price tag is most of the buyers at turbosquid are studios.

My God, I don't even believe this thread.

Like-- where do you get the notion that just because you're a customer, you're entitled to dictate what the store decides to carry?  No matter how much you spend, you're only ONE customer out of tens of thousands. 

That's like me walking into the local supermarket and DEMANDING that they carry a specific brand of hot sauce just because I like it.

And where do you get the notion that a store is obligated to carry something it doesn't  believe will sell?

How can people be so totally ignorant of economic reality?

Aw,  Blondie go easy on 'em...(whispers)I think this may be their first rejection.

That first rejection always goes the hardest, doesn't it?

I could paper my walls with the rejection letters I've gotten from publishers. DAZ rejects lots, and I've had things rejected here. No big thing, really. Happens to everybody eventually.

Place your bets on what.

:: sigh ::  I remember my first rejection. He was in the band, and I thought....

Well, never mind.

:)

   So I guess it is my turn now..let me see..how shall I start?
 I will start by saying how I feel about what I have seen here so far.
There are 4 types of posters here. The first are the honest ones. The second are The Spammers who abuse this forum just to write anything silly to place their Spam. The Third are plugins from Renderosity themselves and Fourth are those Like one of you said the sockpuppets,  but for Renderosity not from me. I have also realized by all of this that there is a Clic or shall I say a Clan or maybe a Society ! That does not welcome the fact that some strangers come in.
 Now let me answer most of you as short as possible cause I have other things to do in life than spend my day on forums.
   Most of you have "Missed the Boat completely". My Question was "How are we all treated here at Renderosity as Client, Sponsor, and Vendor?" And I have given you a short personal example of How a Vendor was treated and how I myself as Sponsor and Client had been treated. First let us start again from the beginning.
   I sponsor a Vendor by buying everyone of her products here and not only from her. This vendor finished a product that she had shown to some of us and asked us if it was worthy and we all said yes ! Now, she presents it here and is turned down and when we inquired about when it will come out she replies to us that RO had turned it down saying ONLY that they were fludded with V4 chars and didn't think her product would sell well here. THAT is the ONLY sentence she had recieved from them yet afterwards other V4 Chars kept appearing up at MP. Since I have bought everyone of her products and I would of bought Timba here as well, I felt I had the right to see what was going on and inquire about it and I was also answered with a "1" small sentence saying that they do not discuss these things with THIRD parties. Simply brushed off as I said like a speck of dandruff. At least that is how I felt at the moment. In other words "None of your Business".
   Well now lets see..how shall I continue..SO? Me as a client it is none of my business?Yet many of you say "Well it is their Bandwith,They put up Galleries for us, They post lots of free stuff and all of that takes a lot of space on the Web and they have bills to pay,
etc.etc.etc......But I am one of the people that helps pay for all that...and it is NONE OF MY BUSINESS? When I am here helping the Vendors and encouraging them and helping out in paying the bills here. Now how shall I handle that..Well let's Skip RO and I will do my
purchaces elsewhere or buy directly from the vendor. Which I think I gonna do from now on. Since a Client has not his say on what he wants to buy...I don't know about you but if I had a business and clients would be asking me for certain things I certainly would inform
them that I would try to aquire their needs. And if a vendor came to me with a product that I would concider maybe will not sell I would rather say something a bit more like "Well I don't like this or that about it, if you can improve this or that or IF I thought it was only MY OWN
opinion I would then at least say to the Vendor Ok we will try it out for some time.
  I have seen this place grow and was quiet all this time never saying anything but when I see something turning sour with something I enjoyed so much I will do something about it. TOO many good vendors were lost here and also many clients because of the nonesence of some
of RO's politics when at the beginning I remember very well..everyone was welcome. But now it has turned into a bunch of Snobs and do not want more people in their little selective society.     THE ANSWERS to my own question here are resumed very clearly.

1. Was this Vendor treated Fairly ? My answer is NO she was not !! she had not been given a sufficiant and HONEST reason why her product  was turned down.
2. Was I as a Sponsor treated Fairly ? My answer is NO since they did not allow the vendor whom I sponsor sell her product here
3. Was I as a Client treated Fairly ? My Answer again is NO I was treated as a piece of dirt as if not needed even though I concider that I had invested so much in helping paying your bills and those of the vendors. And that not only in your STORE as you call it now! or
   Art Communtity !!         please don't make laugh

and what do I see here..
   A Clan that tries to avoid and ignore the real question and turn everything into their favour and change the subject completely and spaming this forum. What is it with you people? What have you become? are you so afraid to be looked down upon from your little group if you dare tell the truth?
 ...Well I am not the afraid type..I will tell you what I think is the real reason "" was turned down. But before I do I will say this as not to hurt the vendor. is lovely, she is cute, has a lot of possibilities can be turned from Cute upto a warrior and I will buy her.
other stores have her already anyway. It would maybe not be a best seller but certainly would sell. That is at least the opinion of seven of us
(But the real reason I think RO  turned it down is because is a Black Character) and Black Characters are difficult to work with since you really do need some good experiance with your lights etc and get a good render to bring out the best of the char's features. So indeed
she would sell less but don't come to us and say that she she would not. Or is it that some are afraid of good competition and are protecting their preferances?
 There never was the question about the vendor feeling bad because her product was turned down.
Hell she can take it she has seen more than probably most of you in her life. but rather the WAY she was turned down with only one miserable sentance not even giving a reasonable advice about the product or what they would like to see more of.
   And I will finish off this thing by saying or asking   "do I sence a bit of racism here?"..and have fun with the little $'s you got from me
also a little advice..stop feeding your bull...I was flying over the Rockies whilst most of you were playing with Dinky Toys.
   And don't you DARE ever ever Threaten me.
                     You may continue this forum as you wish. I have seen enough. Since Clients or as you say "Third" parties have no say.
 Ciao.

Wow.  I sense some extremely misplaced anger here.

First, I don't see anywhere in this thread where anyone has threatened you.

Second, check the marketplace.  If RMP had a problem with black characters, why do I find plenty here?

Third, if she were to ask, they would most likely give her a more specific reason.

*"There are 4 types of posters here. The first are the honest ones. The second are The Spammers who abuse this forum just to write anything silly to place their Spam. The Third are plugins from Renderosity themselves and Fourth are those Like one of you said the sockpuppets"

"A Clan that tries to avoid and ignore the real question "

*You are not only insulting most of the people in this thread with these comments, but also displaying your lack of knowledge of the people in this thread. I owe no loyalty to Renderosity, I was merely stating from my viewpoint why Renderosity is not obliged to take the products of any merchant. I run my own site, and we turn down about 75% of the products offered to us, because we do not feel they fit our market. This does not mean those products are bad, or won't sell on some other site, it just means we are excersizing OUR right to run OUR site, just as Renderosity has the right to run THEIR site and make descisions they feel are right for them.

If you have a problem with Renderosity, please don't paint people make a comment in the forum all with one brush, and please refrain from insulting me in future.

I have been following this thread and as a ex vendor here. I know the process from a few years back was the tester tested the product, if they found mistakes the tester let you know what they found and you fixed.

I had several rejections on a few items when I first started out, either seams in textures did not align or some polys weren't facing forward. I fixed these when I could, and if I could not figure out how to fix I came here and asked how do I fix it.

As I said I am an ex vendor here. The reason why I am no longer a vendor here, is not subject. Let's just say I disagreed with some policies here at the time and gave up selling all together till recently where I vendor on another site.

The point I am trying to make is the testers have make sure that the product just does not work but meets a certain standard of quality. There could be many reasons why a product did not meet the testers standard.  I do allot of testing of products from my real world job and I know that it is not quantity but quality people look at.

Poser is not an industry that will make you rich unless you have an idea that no one else had and a good product.

[quote

Now...the rejection issue.  If you are going to work in the 3d field or art in general get used to it.  Specially if you start bidding work.

Exactly I just started a new Logo Design project for a new Client
I created two Concepts based  his business( a burger joint here in New york )
one of o the two Concept designs  I really favored and hoped he would like  it a much as i DID.

this morning I got his feed back and  ,you guessed, it he HATED the logo concept that i though was the best.

but he liked most of the aspects of my second choice and offered some vital info about his target demographic for me to develop from there
and  he Paypal'd me the FULL Payment for the job even though I only required a 50 percent deposit at this point

Making $$$Money$$$ With your creativity Requires HUMILITY.
and the ability to put your opinions and desires aside
this is the reality.

I'm not even going to bother responding further to this pointless and insulting rant from someone who is clearly so angry about something so miniscule in the grand scheme of things. There are so many errors of fact and misunderstandings that there is prospect of changing the OP's mind. As for accusations of racism, well, I don't feel that requires an answer at all.

And I'm not a rendo employee/official/staff member or merchant.

"So I guess it is my turn now..let me see..how shall I start?"

I'd recommend by STFU and learning a few things from some of your fellow members, but I see it's too late for that.

Quote - Most of the time I'm getting so bored with all the same textures offered on every piece off clothing you can find over here, but......made by a favorit Vendor.

If you are thinking about the one I"m thinking of, I kind of like it. I don't think that the vendor's favorite textures work aesthetically on all the clothing, but it is kind of nice to be able to mix and match between the sets.

Quote - Merchant resource kits are the one thing I'd love to see Renderosity and Daz ban (along with anything made from them).  Every texture sold here and at Daz should be required to be created from photos the merchants took themselves.  THAT would help to ensure quality and a uniqueness to each texture set that would make it worth being placed for sale.

With the low cost of good digital cameras today, there's no excuse not to raise the standards.

Couldn't disagree with you more.
First off, if I were a merchant making clothing textures, I would hate to have to take photos of sample after sample of cloth. This would assuredly drive the price of textures up, and lead to a lack of realistic clothing textures. Similarly, having a resource to go for for things like buttons is a big help. What's next, banning ziptones?

Second, as a hobbyist, I find merchant resources very useful. I use a lot of makeup resources, because I use the same character again and again. One figure I use has a great skin texture, but very limited (and traditional) makeup, and I've made my own textures using a variety of makeup and tattoo merchant resources.

Quote -
I'd recommend by STFU and learning a few things from some of your fellow members, but I see it's too late for that.

Being no English native speaker, I had to search the meaning of STFU... but it was time well spent.  :lol:  I agree in full!  :thumbupboth:

Giorgio

As someone once said.

"There are 3 types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can't."

cheers,
dr geep <--------------------------------- just spent his last $0.02  ...
;=]

Quote - >> "So I guess it is my turn now..let me see..how shall I start?"

I'd recommend by STFU and learning a few things from some of your fellow members, but I see it's too late for that.

Thirded - three posts and in two of them I can actually sense the oxygen being wasted

Quote - Well now lets see..how shall I continue..SO? Me as a client it is none of my business?Yet many of you say "Well it is their Bandwith,They put up Galleries for us, They post lots of free stuff and all of that takes a lot of space on the Web and they have bills to pay,
etc.etc.etc......But I am one of the people that helps pay for all that...and it is NONE OF MY BUSINESS?

Let's see if I can explain this in clear terms that even you can understand.  It is indeed none of your business because you don't own the store.  It doesn't matter how much you spend here.  It doesn't matter how much you "sponsor" a vendor by buying his/her stuff.  The fact remains that you don't own the store, and therefore the private dealings between the store and one of its vendors is none of your business.

The dealings between my local supermarket and its suppliers are none of my business, and I'm not "entitled" to know anything about it just because I buy stuff at the supermarket.
 

"Now let me answer most of you as short as possible cause I have other things to do in life than spend my day on forums. "

Could have fooled me.

Now, she presents it here and is turned down and when we inquired about when it will come out she replies to us that RO had turned it down saying ONLY that they were fludded with V4 chars and didn't think her product would sell well here.

Well hell...That's it in a nutshell!  Deal with it and move on.  Try creating something original.

BTW Don't poop in the punch bowl and expect to make friends at the party.

@bobstuyck:

You do have a vote just like every customer or vendor. As a customer just don't ever buy anything from Rendo again, that's a vote. As a vendor you can go somewhere else to sell products, that's a vote. I do think you are right, in some respects, there is alot of favoritism here. But this is a privately owned and run site, it's their perogative. I know if I had my own site I would not let people, customers or not, tell me what I have in my store. If you think about it you might find you would not either.

cheers.

Mike.

Interesting read, though I tend to skip those that are hard to read for lack of use of proper spacing and such... I will add my philosophy about working in any field (but only came to me when I started in the Graphics Business...)

"It is not personal, it is business."

When I did training Seminars, that was the opening line... it applies to every aspect of business.

The story about the client liking the filler design (Filler Design = any design other than the one you, as the artist, really liked or invested some emotion in...)  I have found that is always the case. They never like the one you are the most impressed by or have the most invested in. But, remember, it is not personal, it is only Business.

Well, my first post here :-)

Seems the question is: R'osity "Marketplace" or R'osity "Store"?

If "marketplace", the business is between the customer and the merchant, the marketplace owner only let the infrastructure. He lays down the general rules. He will not control every single pea for quality, it's the job between the mearchant and the customer.

If "Store": see blondie9999's good example: the supermarket:  No need to repost it.
BUT: If I know that there are goods arround the supermarket will not sell, it's my good right to ask why they don't want to sell it. And if I get a rude/stupid/unsatisfying  answer, it's a possibility to vote with my feet.

R'osity calls itself a "marketplace", R'osity names the merchants as merchants and not as suppliers.
We are customers of the merchants. We don't buy from, but via R'osity and use it's infrastructure.

I only read arguments against Bobs opinion saying in different words:
R'osity was a store, is a store and will be a store forever, regardless of the naming, my way or the Highway!

IMHO R'osity should reassess it's position.
Just my 2 €-Cents
  karlchen

Quote - Well, my first post here :-)

I only read arguments against Bobs opinion saying in different words:
R'osity was a store, is a store and will be a store forever, regardless of the naming, my way or the Highway!.

IMHO R'osity should reassess it's opinion.

Just my 2 €-Cents
  karlchen

I agree, but like the gas and oil companies, they only listen when their pocketbook takes a hit. So if a person like Bob or myself feels strongly about it, don't give them any money. It's the only form of dictation that will have any effect.

cheers,

Mike.

My local grocery store (Meijer) doesn't sell Cafe du Monde Beignet mix.  I love the stuff.  I could make the suggestion every time I go in that I would really like to see them carry it...but, I buy one box, maybe once a month.  It wouldn't make fiscal sense for them to stock it just so I could have my fix once per month.  I've asked why they don't carry it, and their reply is that it doesn't sell.

So, I go down to Rocky's in the eastern market and get it.  A little out of my way, but worth the effort to ME. 

Renderosity's not going to carry everything offered, because not everything will sell here.  If it sells elsewhere, that's great.  The chances of it selling at a smaller venue is probably greater than selling here.

karlchen: What should Renderosity reassess its opinion on?

From what I read in your post, you define "marketplace" as something like E-bay and "store" as something like what's called the Renderosity marketplace.
That's just words and terms. In the way you use the words "marketplace" and "store", Renderoisty IS a store. Has been for years. Actually, the correct term would be "broker".

So what opinion should Renderosity change? I don't have a clue.

svdl - apparently (and this is a theme of many MP based threads, and one I'm completely tired of) is that, because the MP is in it to make money, Renderosity should stop calling itself an "Art Community".  

Froggie-dude, maybe you have a point.

To test your theory, go to any privately held store(like your local computer store), and ask them where they get their parts. You but from them, perhaps you get to know where and how they get the bits?

If so, they should be thrilled to tell you exactly who they get their equipment from, and gasp how much they paid. Because you bought from them. A lot.

And when they stop stocking video card "x" they'll tell you why?

I Don't Think So**.** These people are in business to make money. To do that, they have to be trusted to keep their mouths shut on other's personal issues. Would you enjoy it if you submitted a project you put your heart and soul into, and when they rejected it, them post it here in the Poser Forum for all to see?

That's essentially what you asked them to do. YOU are not the merchant. The merchant saw fit to share her experience, and that's fine. Personally, I'm glad Jen had the presence to remove the vendor's name from these proceedings, so she's not humiliated by your venom. She doesn't need the sort of publicity this thread is producing.  

Jen, if we might call upon you once more, to remove the name of the character from his posts, so the poor vendor in this case cannot be identified? She deserves her dignity.

As for you, Bob... Spare us the bull, and do as Sean has suggested.

Grab a nice steaming cup of STFU, grab a chair, play with you Poser, and find someone else to hassle. If you find a store that will tell you, the customer, why they shot down a product, then come back and let us know, so that we, the Vendors, can avoid it.

BS, that's a good idea, and I haven't thought of that.  OMW.

Might be even better to lock this thread as some solid reasons as to why have been given and it's now going downhill. Plus the fact that it should have remained private between Rendo and the vendor to begin with.

Simple fact is, Rendo, as a broker, can pick and choose what it wants to broker. And they'll go for sure sales over maybe sales every time. It just makes sense.

Quote - My local grocery store (Meijer) doesn't sell Cafe du Monde Beignet mix.  I love the stuff.  I could make the suggestion every time I go in that I would really like to see them carry it...but, I buy one box, maybe once a month.  It wouldn't make fiscal sense for them to stock it just so I could have my fix once per month.  I've asked why they don't carry it, and their reply is that it doesn't sell.

So, I go down to Rocky's in the eastern market and get it.  A little out of my way, but worth the effort to ME. 

Renderosity's not going to carry everything offered, because not everything will sell here.  If it sells elsewhere, that's great.  The chances of it selling at a smaller venue is probably greater than selling here.

And that is business, if sales are doing well then they are keeping the majority of their customer base happy. If sales drop then they need to find out why.

Everyone likes to vent on occasion. (me too :lol:) I have noticed alot of it since I've been here Bob seems to have a strong opinion for which he has the right to. Just like everyone else in this thread.

Cheers.

Awright!...Ante up!  Let's see the product in question.

It has been published through one of the stores... I won't say which one, but it can be found, if one takes the few remaining cues from this thread and chases it down.

Personally, I'm thinking that this form of publicity will unduly influence this product, the way it has so many others. Let it stand or fall on its' own merits, and the Merchant in question keep her hair, sanity, and dignity.

Thank You.

'Nuff Said

Quote - Froggie-dude, maybe you have a point.

To test your theory, go to any privately held store(like your local computer store), and ask them where they get their parts. You but from them, perhaps you get to know where and how they get the bits?

If so, they should be thrilled to tell you exactly who they get their equipment from, and gasp how much they paid. Because you bought from them. A lot.

And when they stop stocking video card "x" they'll tell you why?

I Don't Think So**.**

The right example is:

Go to your local computer store where you buy most of your hardware, tell them about a pretty new graphics adapter with a lot of bells and whistles, ask them why they don't sell them and instead of explanations like instable, too hot, bad drivers and so on you will get a "Shut up!"...

I don't think that you will be custumer there any longer.

And I don't believe that any rl store will act in that way, it will loose it's customers in a very very short time.

Regards
  karlchen

I got a question...  How many sockpuppets are going to participate in this thread?

Quote - Merchant resource kits are the one thing I'd love to see Renderosity and Daz ban (along with anything made from them).  Every texture sold here and at Daz should be required to be created from photos the merchants took themselves.  THAT would help to ensure quality and a uniqueness to each texture set that would make it worth being placed for sale.

With the low cost of good digital cameras today, there's no excuse not to raise the standards.

And you would have a lot less products to choose from and a majority of the character skins would really, really, really be BAD!

Not everyone will pay for a subscription to 3d.sk to get studio quality textures suitable for skinning.  Moreover, having a camera doesn't mean you can use it worth a darn.  Taking a picture for the family scrapbook is VERY different than taking studio quality photographs for use in 3D texturing.

Quote - As a community of Poser artists, we as a whole are growing and changing and as a result we demand better and better products

Prices should really reflect this as well.  I mean $20.00 - $30.00 bucks gimme a break.

Volume counts.  However, considering the demand and the customer base, an increase in prices would substantially lower volume.  This isn't a "Professionals Only" type of community.  3D is not a cheap hobby to begin with once you get hooked on it.  It takes a lot of time.  If the costs were any higher, software would suffer as well.  Not as many people would buy Poser or download DS if the models and accessories for them weren't reasonably priced.

It's a delicate balance.  What is needed is an increase in sale's volume, not an increase in sale's price.

Quote - You're right and I say let 'em take up another hobby.   Vendors have bills to pay.

Thanks,  glad you like him.  The reason for the $300.00 price tag is most of the buyers at turbosquid are studios.

I don't know how you're going to get that price.  How did you get around the copyright laws?

Quote - > Quote - Merchant resource kits are the one thing I'd love to see Renderosity and Daz ban (along with anything made from them).  Every texture sold here and at Daz should be required to be created from photos the merchants took themselves.  THAT would help to ensure quality and a uniqueness to each texture set that would make it worth being placed for sale.

With the low cost of good digital cameras today, there's no excuse not to raise the standards.

And you would have a lot less products to choose from and a majority of the character skins would really, really, really be BAD!

Not everyone will pay for a subscription to 3d.sk to get studio quality textures suitable for skinning.  Moreover, having a camera doesn't mean you can use it worth a darn.  Taking a picture for the family scrapbook is VERY different than taking studio quality photographs for use in 3D texturing.

I second that. I purchased a decent Cannon awhile back and still cannot figure out how to get really good photo's out of it :lol:  Photography's a whole new field of expertise. I have a subscription to 3dsk but thought it would be better if I could have my own photo's that are unique. I've changed my mind, I'll stick with photo's taken by someone who knows what they're doing.