Anyone know where I can get a WWI or even WWII destroyer?  Having no luck. 

hmm...probably some out there, maybe max or 3ds. There's a Poser site called winever (I think) cot com. Arcadia uses it, I think...

get 50 of them, and we'll throw in the Virgin Islands free....;)

Not free. BeyondVR has a WW2 destroyer in the Marketplace here, and Vanishing Point
has some WW1 ships, destroyers and light cruisers, in MAX and 3DS format. The few
 free destroyers I've seen are mostly modern, and in many cases, very poor quality. :)

Greywolf

 Hmmmm...BeyondVR's is nice but I was hoping for a 4 Stacker.  Thanks for the leads.

 As stated above, Vanishingpoint has the Campletown and Scharnhorst which are 4 stackers and the Emden a 3 stacker. Either in Max or 3DS format.

I am working on a Poser verion of the Scharnhorst. It will take me about another two weeks to finish. The modelling is finished, I am working on the textures now, and the rigging will be quite a job, there are loads of guns, searchlights, etc, that will all be rigged for movement.

Will paste a work in progress shot later today.

Quote - I am working on a Poser verion of the Scharnhorst. It will take me about another two weeks to finish. The modelling is finished, I am working on the textures now, and the rigging will be quite a job, there are loads of guns, searchlights, etc, that will all be rigged for movement.

Will paste a work in progress shot later today.

Which Scharnhorst? (WWI or WWII).

The WWI Scharnhorst  was a cruiser right not a destroyer? Looking at the above image I see twin mounted guns fore and aft and a wider beam than a destroyer.

Technically, the correct classification for the WWI Scharnhorst was an armoured cruiser, which is one step below a battle cruiser. Armoured cruisers were actually pre-WWI ships, and the Sharnhorst was sunk by the newer battle cruisers of the British navy.

Ok, I have dropped the polygon count by about a third from the original model, and added quite a bit of detail despite the lower polygon count. Fixed the errors on the mesh, but still a few errors to fix, and it still has to have the vertices split.

Grouped all the parts I could, so all the turrets and searchlights, etc, will be moveable, and the life boats will be removeable. There is no interior, so the doors don't open. Flags will be animated like all my other ships.

Does anyone want me to make a static smoke prop for the chimneys. It won't work for animation, but for still renders it will be OK.

I am not adding detail below the waterline, in the interests of keeping the polygon count down.

Any comments or requests or suggestions before I start on textures and rigging?

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Beautiful work Helgard! I don't see a lot of vessels from that era around. Be interesting to also see some  pre WWI units like from Adm. Dewey's time. Most models seem to be either sail or WWII and newer.

After this I am working on a harbour, with buildings from the era, railways, coal chargers, etc, that suits the style of the ship.

A ship like this is a lot of work, and unfortunately doesn't sell that well to justify the amount of time spent on creating it.

Beautiful Ship model, Helgard :thumbupboth:

Mazak

I have a static ship's smoke prop in my set of freebie ww2 pacific props... it was designed for use with BeyondVr's carrier but would work just as well for other vessels...

Nice work on the ship... she looks beautiful... :)

My masttops are slightly different... but in a set of pics i have been going by she'd just undergone a modernisation and had work done on her masttops and superstructure... i'm still building the smaller gunmounts etc... and have alot of smaller details yet to do.... lol

Looking good!!

Nice, REAL nice! :)

I'm still working away on my Uss Minnesota... here's a current shot render with textures applied as with my others... i redid the textures for a higher quality... and i'm on finnal detailing now...then i can attempt to do rigging... lol... although i'm starting to think i've put too much in... she's becoming a reasource hog to work on... lmao

Attached Link: Connecticut Class Battleships

Also check www.navweaps.com  The first photo on the default page is of a gun being installed on the USS Connecticut, and clicking on the pic brings you to the details of the gun, with a lot of pictures on the site, better showing the turret shape.

Ty Antonia for pointing that out... how ever... it should be noted that the Minnesota underwent several refits... 5 i beleive it was to be exact... from 1914 to 1920... during which her superstructure, masts, and armaments were completely stripped out and rebuilt.... newer turrets were installed, new masts etc etc... some of her armaments (present pre-war) were completely removed... and the origional deck plans i've looked at don't even come close to what the ship looked like during and leading up to WW1 (or after the war for that matter).. i have also found numerous discrepancies in pictures of the vessel and of vessels in the same class in which it is possible that pictures were either miss-labled. or the ships pictured were miss-identified...an all too common problem with pictures of the day... also i should point out that i build ship models for museum displays and that ww1 is the main area that i model... in large scale.... i am building this model based on a best "educated" guess at what is accurrate based on a wide range of photo's of this vessel specifically and also on other ships of the era in-order to hopefully preserve some reasonable accurracy of what the Uss Minnesota BB-22 looked like... It would seem that even paintings and postcards of the ships of this era can't agree on the appearances of the vessles of that day in age... since the ship could change drastically during refits and even ships of the same class didn't look like one another after the naval yards got done with them...lol... I've also found major discrepancies in the listings for the armaments the ship was to have had and where they were located... and when...

Sorry, but I haven't seen any photo that supports the turret shape which you use for the 8-inch and 12-inch guns. I don't see shadows of the turret overhanging the top of the barbette, the shadow effects on turret sides, and the brightness, are matching the vertical armour of the barbettes, and there are plenty of photographs which clearly show vertical turret sides.

Heck, look at your own photograph upthread: all three visible turrets have a vertical edge at the rear. I don't see any way to get that from sloped armour, and still have a vertical turret rear, without some implausible shaping of armour plate.

It's not a deal-breaker. I could make up a turret shell and smart-prop it to the model. I could use it as-is, though not as a US battleship. I'm doing stuff in an alternate-history in which minor navel powers might have bought a couple of pre-dreadnaughts and changed things.

In all of my research... on this ship specifically and for those that i've built for museum display i have... as i'd stated found a multitude of discrepancies with the appearances of vessels during the ww1 era and before... i researched through a couple hundred sites looking for details and pics... plus deckplans... i'd actually been to those that you directed me to... amongst many others...... the pic i'd uploaded above was to give a general reference so people could get some idea what i was modelling... i had a choice of about 5 turret shapes... round being the ones that were origionally mounted when the Minnesota was commissioned, a more squarish type... (i'm guessing done during one of the refits)... the ones in the photo above.. and one that appeared to have more sloaping sides... with a flatter back pannel... In my work at the three museums that i did vehical and weapons identification for, we were constantly plagued with problems caused by artists renditions, miss-labeled or miss-identified vehicals in the photo's we were handed and so forth... If i'd been so inclined i could have modeled the turrets as a sloaped front with rounded sloaping sides and a squarish overhang at the rear, which was also a common style of turret in use both with the US Navy as well as the Brits and several other countries... i chose this style based on a variety of resource materials... it's entirely possible that some of the reasources i've used were in error.. but i cannot do anything about that except report to the sites that they need to verify their pics for accurracy... one site claimed anothers was in error.. several refered to pics placed in books that i don't have access to... and argued that one author or another was in error...  i could i suppose if so inclined pick out about a million discrepancies or errors with the works of any artist, 3d or otherwise... where-in details were not what i thought correct... however....