Sheesh, that tongue of yours has the imagination reeling, pjz99... heheheheh I concede your point. What sort of art are we generating... and what do we need to make our artwork? If we changed our focus a bit, broadened our horizons ... there are so many subjects for artwork! Really, there are! It doesn't all have to be Boris Vallejo-themed depictions of ... well, you get my point.

Great!  Now all you have to do is convince the people who play the gallery game.  ;)

 I have bought a whole lot of school scenes recently which are really great.  And there's some not too bad indoor house scenes either around here.
I have noticed a lack of M4 clothes and textures.
Love esther

I supported Animedoll, thinking that it was going to outsell any of Daz's overpriced crap. Now I see nothing for her OR her male counterpart that was released on Studiomaya's site.

I am and always will be a supporter of Terai Yuki 2, and I quite enjoy the more casual, everyday outfits that are available for her.. :D

Oh, and those school scene sets.. I definitely want to get those sometime. If anything, for all the fun accessories that I can pop in my renders..

As a content creator....I concurr....boring.  :)

Sixus, I swear.. if I ever win the lottery, I'm gonna just have to visit your site, select all of the items, and go "yep... add to cart, baby."

Phenomenal stuff you've got! :D

Thanks....I think.  ;p

Well, guys, this is nothing new. It's the same discussion we've had for the almost eight years I've been involved with this hobby. All I can say is, thank you, PhilC for Wardrobe Wizard. It may not be perfect, but it's expanded the wardrobes of my favourite character meshes, all of which have long gone by the wayside from a sales point of view.

And know what? Fine with me that they have, because it means I dont have to look in the gallery and see image after image that looks exactly like my stuff. My little niche may be exactly that -- very little -- but it's all mine, which is more than I can say for the cookie cutter Showgirls whose imagery are overly dependent on the Marketplace Flavour of the Week.

But I gotta tell ya: I still miss the days when DavidHo and DragonGirl frequented this place -- David in particular. There was some truy exciting stuff that pushed Poser right over the edge.

Sarte: there's still a lot being developed for the MayaDoll, but it means getting really deep with the Japanese sites. I must have close to a hundred bookmarked; you'd be surprised at some of the stuff we never find out about. But MD is still very much alive and well. Yeah, kind of a pity that the male version never took off -- but honestly, should we be at all surprised?

"...pimping to the male libido..." 

I may be wrong but I'm guessing that Poser probably has a larger share of female users (and content creators) than any other 3D application. Are they simply pawns of the overpowering, testosterone fueled hegemony or is it possible that the appeal of thongs and corsetry reaches beyond the posessors of a Y chromosome? Besides, where else outside of Poser and certain high-end DC brothels will you find such a love of alluringly dominant women with edged weapons?

I agree that the available content does not reflect the real world and that is unfortunate but...Poser is largely about fantasy fulfillment IMO, and whether it be male of female fantasy, sensible shoes, granny panties and elastic pants to fit bulging waistlines are seldom part of the picture. Personally, I'd like to see some 1940s-50s era outfits and hairstyles and stockings and garterbelts and panty girdles and bullet bras and oh crap - damn you Y chromosome!

No! I want fantasy armour!!! And impractical sci-fi suits!

Lets say M4 and V4 and friends are out for a weekend of leisure time, say at golf course. Try for find a decent Polo styled shirt (izod type) to dress the guys in that is typical wear on a golf course. Even worn as typical casual office dress code. With a left chest pocket. Then a pair of dockers, that you can make the front right pocket bulge like it has a set of keys and or some coins in it. Then the right rear pocket bulge and appear to have a wallet in it. Shorts that the girls would wear that are not skin tight and a similar styled shirt. Same could be worn to a Saturday lunch, a trip to the mall, the grocery store. Tongue in cheek, of course the girls would wear 4 inch spiked heels while golfing.

Sorry, no golf courses allow hard spikes any more.  They would have to use approved soft spikes which do not exceed 1/2 in. in depth.

@pjz99 HAWT, DO WANT
@SeanMartin I'm tempted to try modelling something for AD BOY myself, but I suck at using most 3d apps.

"No! I want fantasy armour!!! And impractical sci-fi suits!"

Oh come on. You know you want Barely-There Slutwear for The Most Anticipated Mesh of the Year.  ;-) 

I dunno conniecat. I started feeling like the great glut of garbage became a problem years ago, and has only gotten worse, since. Perhaps as others have suggested, you've become more discerning with time. Despite the frustration that being a discerning customer can sometimes yield, it's ultimately a good thing for your art and for your budget. 

Big applause for the content creators who either provide not-the-usual items, or those who provide the usual, but do it exceptionally well. The ten thousand "I just cranked these ugly textures out for this product that DAZ released three days ago" merchants can go jump in a lake for all I care. Bleh. 

Am I the only one who really detests Daz products for their pricing schemes? Pay for a mesh without morphs, pay for textures, pay for basic morphs, pay for poses, go broke.

Quote - Am I the only one who really detests Daz products for their pricing schemes? Pay for a mesh without morphs, pay for textures, pay for basic morphs, pay for poses, go broke.

Probably, because even at 'those exorbitant prices' you're really not paying much compared to what it takes to make content.

Quote - But I gotta tell ya: I still miss the days when DavidHo and DragonGirl frequented this place -- David in particular. There was some truy exciting stuff that pushed Poser right over the edge.

Hey Sean, thanks for mentioning those two artists, very cool looking stuff!

Quote - The ten thousand "I just cranked these ugly textures out for this product that DAZ released three days ago" merchants can go jump in a lake for all I care. Bleh. 

Yeah, them and keep-the-mesh-as-simple-as-possible-so-it-looks-like-a-tube-sock conforming clothing makers. And those that .... eh, never mind... I'm way too tempted to get into a list of my poser content pet peeves...

Quote - Am I the only one who really detests Daz products for their pricing schemes? Pay for a mesh without morphs, pay for textures, pay for basic morphs, pay for poses, go broke.

It's sorta like a crack dealer getting you hooked.

For the record, I have the Gen4 figures, because in one form or another they were all free (like the complete M4, on a computer mag disk that came out just a scant couple of months after the figure's release -- who was the moron behind that marketing decision??). Like the Gen3 figures, they're busy collecting dust. And that's okay. As I said, I have no real use for them beyond testing for friends of mine. (And HINT HINT: wait till you see what a certain merchant in this very thread has in mind for M4 -- way cool! I'm almost tempted to ask him to make an Ichi1 version of it for me.)

Yeah quality has go way down lately.
I used to spend silly amounts of money on 3D produucts every months here on Daz and wherever else I found stuff I liked. But lately things have gotten kinda blah, even my used to be favorite creators go to the lets make the same damn texture pack for this new dress thing.
I am a tad bit picky these days for example with skirts, if they completely distort the textures applied when morphing and bending them just the slightest bit I will return them. There are only about 3 creators worth buying from regularly for me these days and the occasional awesome find by someone i did not previously know.

But I agree i got more then enough "woman of loose character" styled clothing then I will ever need and enough fantasy wear to dress every single fantasy character i can ever think of. I got enough similar hairs and texture packs to last me forever, so from now on I only buy things that are unique that I have not seen before in some form.

And then sometimes I open the marketplace/Daz and see texture packs that make me wonder who the hell approved them because I would not even consider using them... if payed handsomly. They look like a texturing attempt by my 7 year old ( yep she on occasion makes textures for her plushie creations and they tend to look better then that). The first thing I always think when seeing such packs is something along the lines of, geeze who photographed scrapbooking paper and made textures out of them, they look... cheap doesn't even describe it yet.

As for Daz and its pricing, well they gotta live from something and I do believe it takes a horrendous amount of work to make a completely new generation of figures.
Some of us like them some don't ( I personally use M3 as much as M4 and V3 isnt gathering dust yet either.) I do prefer the new way of making everything morph expansions because I do like mix and match and dressing diffrent characters in clothing I buy for one basemodel instead of I don't know how many.

In the end we all decide what we want to use and how we use it and the whole fight about what is the better figure and what not is kinda pointless to me as I got some I use more and some I use less but I wont be complaining about that, but quality and good results in renders and or animations is what I really go for and lately I have been quite disappointed.