So i have finished my custom moprhs for V4.2 and am really happy with what i have made
but i wanted to see what the members of renderosity think. I will be selling hur here and i dont want it to be a fail lol Its my 1st custom moprh hopeful i will make upgrade for the model when i get better with zbrush XD But if you dislike the moprhs let me know maybe you have better look or whatever good or bad it helps me at the end of the day so feel free to speak your mind.

P.s

I have only attach a headshot right now
its at the top of the pic dunno why odd but ok lol
the body pic was tiny :O
i will post a bigger one with body and head

 she's very doll-like

Hmm i dont really see it but ok XD
thank you i will work on that

Very nice i would like to see the whole figure the head is  lookin good

Thank you. Just about to post a full pic of hur.
Fixing the head befor i post XD

Dont understand why all members create always "teen" morphs ... some time they look like adolescents ! Have a piece of imagination, STOP CREATE YOUNGER GIRLS !

Is there too many problems with that in the real life ...

This is so much a question of personal taste, and it also depends on what you are trying to create. In addition, a single head-on shot does not tell the whole story of a head (or a body) morph - we would also need to see three-quarter and profile views.

However, let's work with what you've given us...

I do agree with infinity10 that she is a somewhat doll-like, artificial figure. If that is what you intended, then I think she is very pretty and appealing. I find the mouth a little too narrow and downturned, but this gives a sultry look that you may well have been trying for... in which case, good work! The extremely slanted eyes also give a somewhat exotic appearance, which if it is intended works reasonably well, except that for such slanted eyes they look too wide (vertically, I mean).

However, if you are trying for a realistic face, I think these very things work against her. The mouth is very narrow

Looking forward to seeing the rest of her from different angles!

A single head shot may wake up the devil in a mad spirit ... God now how many live ... (I dont trust in god, it's an image ... ) I just want advertising the taf with this sort of post, it''s not the first i see here, may be i'm stupid to think that ... or not ...

Anthanasius**: For one she is my 1st morphs i never wanted hur to look  young. i was trying to make
a odd lookin face that was cute but odd at the same time something you would look at and rember but maybe it didnt come out like that  and just to let you know am not into makeing teen morphs or young. I like my models big with a belly LOL + I see where your comeing from most of the V4.2 deal up models are young looking its not really my cup of tea

IsaoShi: I did not intended to make hur look like a doll. The mouth was a no go i new it was way to tiny but i whent with it lol. The slanted eyes where intended but i whent a little far and made them to
slanted and to long. As for realistic its a no go for me i like my fantasy to much XD

New update of hur face
More of my cup of tea +
with gothic makeup XD

Looks dead as a corpse.
DPH

dphoadley: What do you mean a little more info wold be nice

@ MindRebel... (to whom my first post was also exclusively addressed, no-one else). Thanks for the explanation. Your later pictures make it clearer what you are trying to achieve, and I think you did a very nice job. She has a an unusual, exotic look. Even in your 'static' renders she has more life in her than many other morphs and models, some selling in the RMP, that other people are equally proud of.

Please don't be discouraged by the negative and graceless attitude of those who think you should not be doing this. You don't have to justify yourself to anyone.

Not a bad looking morph actually.  Her right boob looks slightly odd but that might just be the angle

Her eyes seem a little too slanted for my tastes, but other than that she looks fine.

Thank you Isaoshi. It means a lot. If noone likes hur or buy's hur when i put hur up for sell then thats fine i will try agen untill i get it right. And i need to watch what am doing with slanted eyes
and odd looking face couse i know aerysoul has a lovely model named alice and shes really odd look lol so kind of dont want to be a copy cat XD

How would i INJ a custom moprhs

I will update as i go
on hur body

Her boobs are nicely sized but to my mind they are a bit too 'pert', or pointy... a little more roundness would not go amiss, but without adding too much to overall size.

(edit) cross-posted with you! Alice is a super fantasy model, but I just can't get used to those eyes! I much prefer yours.

I know hur boobs are pointed am not 100% sure why lol i will fix it XD
Yea alice is a lovely model but hur face i just dont like hur face

lookin better she is

MindRebel, is Hur the name of the figure, or do you mean "her"? :)
Reason I ask... "Hur" is very close (missing one letter) for the German word for uh... prostitute. :)
So if it's her name, you might want to... change it. :)

MindRebel:

Very nice so far.  The skin could use some texture for realism, and I'd let her have a meal or two.

Klebnor

Silke:No hur is not her name lol. Whare i come from hur means her lol. I do not got a name yet i have some but there not that good XD

Klebnor: Oo no no the texture is not mine i have yet to do that. And am not so happy about doing it
lol it would be my 1st texture. A meal or 2 would not hurt her lol am stull working on the body am kind of new to zbrush so its hard geting it right the 1st 2nd and 3rd time or like me 10th time lol

Don't care for the black lipstick but the figure is quite nice. I like the exotic look. Dave, you're seem a bit crotchety of late - just my opinion Shalom :-) 

No offense, MindRebel, but consider this seriously:

The Poser product world is literally glutted to almost full capacity with items defining the essence of blah, trite, overdone, stereotypical, and amateurish.

I see you're a new member. Are you one of those many whose first question is, "How do I use Poser?", and whose second question is, "How do I become a merchant?"

The figure looks OK. It's a female, but it looks like something anyone could come up with in a few minutes using sliders in Poser. There might be a few Poser product addicts with loose credit cards who might be willing to buy something like that, but the majority won't.

Well, you asked for feedback. If it's your desire to become a merchant, I'd suggest you think up an angle, something to make your work stand out. This looks like anything any one of countless thousands of Poser merchant wannabees might come up with in half an afternoon.

MikeJ: I may be a new member but i know what am doing. I read up on poser befor i got it. It would of been silly of me to buy poser come on here and start a topic about"How do i use poser? Dont you think?

And your right its a female. And yea i bet someone could come up with this in about few minutes
like i siad it was my 1st try with Zbrush NOT sliders just like to point that out XD. Your right and am not going to take offense to it. your helping me get better by saying what your saying so it would be silly to get mad or take it to heart. 

What really makes a model stand out? Right now all am going on is what i think and its not helping LOL

I read what you wrote. I meant the "How do I use Poser?" thing as an analogy, sort of. In other words, I've seen posts by people who have literally said that they just got Poser and want to know how to use it to cash in on it here, how to become a merchant. For every one who has outright said that, there are hundreds who just kept that part to themselves. ;-)

I know it was ZBrush, because I read that, too. I'm pretty familiar with ZBrush, though, and I know all it's capable of, as I've been using it for a couple years now, and I meant that I see nothing that couldn't be accomplished just with the V4 morphs alone, without a need to invoke ZBrush.

I'm glad you didn't get offended. :-)
You just have to be very much aware that if you want to be successful, you have to be original. Simply making a good looking female body has already been done over and over and over again, and is even very easy even with just the morphs that come with V4. Textures and props and clothing are really where it's at, IMO, except for those who just have no idea how to use the software and just want to buy other people's body morphs.

What makes a model stand out is what surrounds the model, not necessarily the model itself, unless you're really good at getting rid of that V4 look, which very few are. And of course, morphs need to work with actual poses, something that is often hidden and not apparent from promo shots. Especially with ZBrush, which can create geometry deformation problems which are magnified disproportionally as a vertex is moved farther from its origin, due to the way ZB subdivides.

I do congratulate you on not giving her a 54 inch bust though, like half the merchants do - that's a step in the right direction at least. ;-)

Hopefully you'll get more fedback from other people here.

I know what your saying and am aware that i need to do something new something noone has come up with. I know that most of sellers here the ones that do v4 models all look the same the body is slim the bust is big so on bla. I think if i take my time get really into i can get her not to look like v4 base if i really try lol

Trying to make her not look like every other V4 is only half the battle, the rest is trying to make her look good with the given geometry, while not "breaking" her, and also making something functional and desirable.

And BTW, where I wrote above about how ZBrush subdivides, what I meant was how ZB rounds the normals. Different thing entirely, and it's because ZBRush's sculpting is designed first and foremost for normal and displacement mapping for games and lo-res models in animations, not for Poser and its lack of sub-d and real micro-poly displacement. Not to say it can't be done, but if you're really into creating morphs, there are better programs for that which don't f*** with your geometry as much -- even sculpting programs like Modo and Mudbox, which don't screw with the OBJ in every way imaginable, as ZBRush does.

Aside from all that, I like her. :)

Well, since you have already acknowledged that the market is over loaded with young nymphs that need a good spanking (in a good way), I'll leave that alone a move forward with my comments.

-I like the eyes, something different...different is good.
-The lip shape seems to have changed from the first pic to the second, maybe it's just the color. The 1st lips look more pouty than the 2nd.
-Her tits seem funny. The size is nice but the areola looks flat, I would protude it a bit with just a dash of nipple.

I would like to see her hips and ass and what shape those are.

If you are just starting out then I understand you having to learn your programs to get a handle on what they can do for you, so this figure possibly looking like a 1000 others isn't a problem. Learn your stuff, get good at it...then make a unique figure that can stand on her own.

Keep up the good work and progress.
Regards

it looks o.k. to me, reb, but would need to see it in a full scene with props, dramatic lighting, background et al.

I know it seems bent out of shape, but I think Poser's lower brain stem appeal is all about genetelia.

A genuine if not misguided observation.

DarkEdge: Yes i know that poser is over run by slim young models. I cant seem to find a big model [somewhat fat lol] I love hur eyes i would not fix them XD But i did fix the lips dont know if u can see it well or not. I will post a better pic of hur. Am working on hur body trying to fix hur boobs and bum lol trying to get hur a little bigger XD

MindRebel:

Did you change the face?  The eyes look totally different in this render.  She is starting to look a lot like Alice to me.  Body looks good, breasts could be reduced some more and eased down more naturally.

As for the name, how about "Lekmich", adwani for elf?

Klebnor

No i didnt well i did fix the lips and i used alice mat so maybe thats it.
I will need to fix the boobs i seem to mess up on them alot lol

I see.  Yes, the Alice mat would definitely cause that confusion.

BTW, the belly is not to big, IMHO.

Klebnor

I was not keen on the first image you posted, but thought she looked really great in the second image. I really liked the body in the third image, but thought it looked like  there was a bit of an issue with the side of the breast, though I like the overall size and shape of the breasts. I guess the eyes look too big and slanted to look real, but I really like big slanted eyes, so I don't care if it's realistic or not.

I much prefer the old version to the new.

lesbentley

Am not going for realistic. I like my fantasy to much.
I cant seem to get hur damm boobs right lol its the only think i cant do right

Klebnor

Her belly is fine but her sides are tiny need to fix that
i was thinking about puting the boobs down a little bit
so there hanging. If she is going to be a big model with a bit of fat

 i like this morph :D  always good to see new faces of v4 :) keep up the good work :)

P.s click on the pic so you can see it better

 very beautiful :D

She's very pretty, Rebel! When I first saw her I instantly thought of my favorite girl, Alice, of course, because of the extreme slant of her eyes, but there was enough difference in the rest to make a distinction. Her body looks very nice, too. My only problem with custom body morphs is getting clothes to fit her; but then those who don't clothe their models don't mind that...LOL!

Don't let others discourage you! It takes time to master anything and you seem to be doing quite well. Keep it up!

I think she's great - she reminded me a little of Alice, because she's got those unusual eyes and a fantastical look, but that's a compliment from me. I NEVER use other people's characters - apart from Alice :D

It's the skin texture that determines if I buy a character set - having said that, I really like the look of her, although I have to say I preferred the slim version, the breasts were just right for a younger or elven character.

Thank you for the compliment's. And i know about that bodys so thats am doing 2 when i go to sell hur a big body and a slim body so you can pick what you want XD makes it a lot. I try not to do big breast there hard to work around when puting on a bra or top ><

As for clothes for hur am going to make just right now am working on the model. I happen to be a team of 1 XD am makeing everything myself. Its hard but its worth it

I give hur a new face. cute face XD
fix the body big and young well thats what i was going for lol
but it looks good with hur head

she is gettin much better  i like her a lot  great work so far

The last pic you posted of the side views of the head, show a very pretty girl.

Here is a tip that I learned long ago.

You will never be able to please everyone, so it's better to just go with pleasing your own eye.  Those that have the same taste as you  will purchase the package.  If you try to please everyone, you will get no where and end up with a monstrosity that won't sell to anyone.

Thank you for your words and you are right. I can only please some not everyone XD and right now am trying to please all and for that my models is becomeing a mess :( but i must say i do love fang and elf ears lol ^^

I dont know if it's the way Daz does the eyes, but if you look at the image posted on Saturday, the eyes are pointed in different directions, giving her more than the usual cross-eyed look. It may be because of the materials you're using for the iris, but it's pretty distracting.

Aside from that, while semi-realistic women arent my thing, I can still see a lot of good work here. Congrats.

There are a few comments in this thread that that are critical ... in a way totally not  solicited by the OP, this one being the most offensive,  IMO:

Dont understand why all members create always "teen" morphs ... some time they look like adolescents ! Have a piece of imagination, STOP CREATE YOUNGER GIRLS !

Let Capitalism work, people !  The way it works  is: someone puts a product into the marketplace, if the public wants it, the public buys it. If the public does not buy it,  the supplier either: cannot sustain itself and dissappears, or, the supplier does more R&D to  try to hit the target next time. But if you want to  tell mindrebel  what YOU think  I want,  then you are trying to  control the selections that are available to ME  in the marketplace. And I am afraid  we are , in the real  world, all traveling down that path like lemmings  a little too  quickly these days. If you know what I mean.
As far as  a comment on the morph - I WOULD LIKE HER TO HAVE MUCH BIGGER BOOBS.
;-)
Santicor.