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Subject: Release the FREAK 4


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stallion ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:33 PM · edited Mon, 02 December 2024 at 7:30 AM

the Freak 4 has been released
like it's Gen4 partners he is free, looks good can't wait to try him out

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ice-boy ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:40 PM

link please


pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:43 PM

Free only to platinum club members (which means, actually not free at all):
http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/new-releases/the-freak-4?item=8436&cat=421&_m=d

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stallion ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:43 PM

He is at DAZ3d.com
also to clarify he is FREE to PC members...

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ice-boy ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:46 PM

the body looks very realistic


pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:47 PM

http://artzone.daz3d.com/wiki/doku.php/azproduct/8436
Seems that once again this is a set of morphs of the M4 figure.  Good luck modeling clothes for this guy, anything with detailed trims or belts or whatever will be a major pain.  I guess when SP4 is finally released that'll be a morph of V4 as well.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:48 PM

Quote - the body looks very realistic

Sarsa is one of the best texture artists anywhere, that's a large part of the reason why.

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ice-boy ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:53 PM

but the shape of the body is also good IMO.

what is SP4? 


pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 1:55 PM

The next step after Stephanie Petite 3.

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:03 PM

Quote - the body looks very realistic

nope. still out of all proportion with any real human. (look at it next to v4. she's totally nonhuman to start with........)

I'll as usual pass.



pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:12 PM

Well to be fair, the Freak versions were never intended to be realistic, they're basically out there for people who want to mimic The Hulk or other hyper-exaggerated characters.

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tonymouse ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:14 PM · edited Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:15 PM

Non human to Super human was the poin to the freak, I thought, and if he is a M4 morph, with the built in scaling the hand a feet complaint re F3 should be no more. But I am quite confident foks will find somthing new to focus on. I am looking forward to picking him up tonight!!

Edited to add, You beat me to the punch pjz99


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:16 PM

I was answering the point of 'the body looks very realistic'.... but please... miss the point I made by all means....

closing the thread.



lkendall ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:17 PM · edited Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:17 PM

Some of the testers and developers also hint at M4 Creature Morphs, but I guess they will be released, "soooooooooon".

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tonymouse ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:18 PM

Sorry you feel that way. Everyone has their own opinion.


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:43 PM

Tagged Bagged and downloaded. Thanks for the heads up!


shuy ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 2:56 PM

If he would be realistic he does not be a "Freak"
IMO looks like Apollo Maximus muscle morph.


ice-boy ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 3:57 PM

the muscles look better then on apollo.


Niles ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 4:17 PM

Quote - Well to be fair, the Freak versions were never intended to be realistic,

Thanks for clearing that up I thought it *** ******M3 *** that was never intended to be realistic  :)   

they're basically out there for people who want to mimic The Hulk or other hyper-exaggerated characters.


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 6:05 PM

 I can't get him to install on my MAC



Believable3D ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 6:54 PM

Either he inhuman, or he's modelled after Brock Lesnar. (How funny that one of their very first characters for M4 is named "Brock," although in truth one or two of the base M4 images look more like Lesnar than the namesake character.)

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Klebnor ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 7:01 PM

Thanks for the info.  Glad to get a new character, and free at that!

Of course, I went for the bundle, so it didn't end up being free, but what a deal!

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Believable3D ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 7:47 PM

The bundle is a VERY good deal. It's only a buck more than the (included) M4 Casual Wear set (well, for us Plat folk), plus textures by Sarsa and Morris, and a hairstyle? (Not that the hairstyle looks all that appealing to me, but still.)

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Darboshanski ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 9:27 PM

Yes the freak pro bundle under 30 bucks (PC members) is a steal.

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LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 10:23 PM

Anything that includes Hair by AprilYSH is always worth it!


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 10:24 PM · edited Tue, 18 August 2009 at 10:26 PM

Quote - Either he inhuman, or he's modelled after Brock Lesnar. (How funny that one of their very first characters for M4 is named "Brock," although in truth one or two of the base M4 images look more like Lesnar than the namesake character.)

Pshaw. Brock Lesnar is nothing. I thought the Freak was inhuman, but I did some looking around out of curiosity and I found some amazing actual humans that make the Freak look like a girl.

This is one of them. This is an actual human.

Here's another:


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 10:33 PM

Do a google image search for "myophile". Steroid infused monsters galore.

Until today, I knew nothing about this. The Freak is no freak at all compared to these guys.


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Believable3D ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2009 at 10:58 PM

Yeah, I've seen that kinda stuff before. (I've known some bodybuilders, although they weren't themselves like that.) It's pretty gross.

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ice-boy ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 2:31 AM

the first pic must be a photoshop job


tunggulaja ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 3:46 AM

Quote - > Quote - Either he inhuman, or he's modelled after Brock Lesnar. (How funny that one of their very first characters for M4 is named "Brock," although in truth one or two of the base M4 images look more like Lesnar than the namesake character.)

Pshaw. Brock Lesnar is nothing. I thought the Freak was inhuman, but I did some looking around out of curiosity and I found some amazing actual humans that make the Freak look like a girl.

This is one of them. This is an actual human.

Here's another:

I would guess the pics are photoshoped.


wolf359 ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 7:49 AM

file_437371.jpg

***"I would guess the pics are photoshoped."

***Not sure about the black guy but the white guy is a very obvious
photoshop job and not a very good one at that
note the obvious "masked" edges around the head and shoulder areas

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CauriBlackthorne ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:01 AM

Especially the women or what´s left of them freak me out.

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andolaurina ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:11 AM · edited Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:12 AM

That first guy [the white guy in the two-photo post by BB] looks like he has tumors not muscles.  I agree with the Photoshop theory.

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CauriBlackthorne ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:20 AM · edited Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:21 AM

The first guy is a photoshop job, if you look at the background, you can see the distortion. I´m not so sure about the others most of them look real, this can´t be healthy.



pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 12:05 PM

Yeah very likely those first pics are photoshopped.  Look at where the arms actually attach to the torso - you will never find a human skeleton that is proportioned like that.  The guy in the second pic is very probably Will Harris, a pro bodybuilder, but he doesn't have that crazy proportion going on in most of his other pics.  Did his pelvis grow?

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 3:00 PM

On a related note, some of those massive muscle pics you see floating around the internet can be credited to this technique:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugKjdkJu1d4 ***** Be warned, this is one of the most puke-worthy things you will have seen. *****

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Peelo ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 9:40 PM

Quote - > Quote - Either he inhuman, or he's modelled after Brock Lesnar. (How funny that one of their very first characters for M4 is named "Brock," although in truth one or two of the base M4 images look more like Lesnar than the namesake character.)

Pshaw. Brock Lesnar is nothing. I thought the Freak was inhuman, but I did some looking around out of curiosity and I found some amazing actual humans that make the Freak look like a girl.

This is one of them. This is an actual human.

This man has the physique of a modern comicbook superhero. Massive upper torso  but not so massive lower torso. I can't tell but I am guessing this is not photoshopped. There was a documentary (I didn't catch it) about guys trying to look like and have the bodies of comic book superheroes.

 This guy looks like the marvel character " Luke Cage" come  alive (I'm such a nerd for knowing that name ;P ). He even wears a hat like the comic book character.

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 9:56 PM

PJ is right. It is Will Harris, and it's not photoshopped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27B5w-inrPw

Skip to 1 minute 10 seconds and be amazed.


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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:23 PM

He's got a fantastic physique no doubt, the videos are the things to really watch with these guys.  His biceps are pretty clearly not as large as his head, but in the pic above they're much bigger.  Part of that might be blamed on the perspective of the pic, but I think it's been manipulated.  In particular look at the proportion of his hands in the video at 1:10, versus the photo.

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:33 PM · edited Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:35 PM

But in the pic above, he also looks 20 years younger. It's probably photoshopped. I can't tell. Not my area of expertise.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:38 PM

Ignoring the date on the pic, where'd you get that info?  He seems to be 41 today

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:52 PM

I edited - I meant he looks 20 years younger.


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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:56 PM · edited Wed, 19 August 2009 at 10:57 PM

Ah gotcha.  Although Mr. Harris also sometimes gives his age at over 300 years, meaning he's remarkably well-preserved.  He's a pretty colorful guy ;)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2009 at 11:12 PM

There is some truly sad and disturbing stuff out there.  One guy in particular stands out in the world of wonky physiques.  Greg Valentino:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=valentino%20bodybuilder&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=valentino%20bodybuilder&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iv&start=0#
His biceps jiggle like breasts (not the silicone kind, the real deal kind) when he's flexing, he's got them pumpt up with so much gunk.

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lkendall ( ) posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 8:36 AM · edited Thu, 20 August 2009 at 8:38 AM

Who can explain fetishes and taste? I suppose we all have a brief amount of morbid curiosity, but I don't know what it is that makes people want to collect such monstrous pictures. You see pics like that and think yikes. I guess though it is better than kiddie porn. I am glad that I don't have many patients with steroid related heart disease. I pity the next generation of cardiac specialists.

This rollout at DAZ seems to have much less extra content available for the figure. And I don't think Freak 4 is as polished looking a figure as Freak 3. I have F4 and some stuff for it in my cart, but I haven't seen anything that makes me want to push the buy button. I may just clear it out and download the PS free Freak 4 base figure, and wait.

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nabob21 ( ) posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 9:20 AM

Regarding Freak 4, I have read about scaling problems when this character is used in Poser versus Daz Studio. These posts don't actually say what the scaling problems are. Can anyone here elaborate?

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CauriBlackthorne ( ) posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 9:31 AM

This Greg Valentino guy is a wackjob, he´s lucky to still be alive.
I recently read an article about freak shows in the early 20th century when there was no reality-tv or internet to satisfy the morbid curiosity of the people. The so called freaks used to travel from town to town and sell postcards of themselves to make some money. The article is in german and can be found here: http://einestages.spiegel.de/static/topicalbumbackground/4755/freakshow_um_1900.html .
I bought the freak 4 pro bundke mostly because of the skintextures, clothing and hair that can also be used on a "normal" looking m4 or h4. The first test renders of the skin textures look quite good so I don´t regret buying it yet.



Acadia ( ) posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 10:42 AM

Don't forget to look for the pink tutu that Daz is offering this week.  An odd article of clothing for a figure with bulges in all of the wrong places!  LOL

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Byrdie ( ) posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 2:28 PM

Quote - Regarding Freak 4, I have read about scaling problems when this character is used in Poser versus Daz Studio. These posts don't actually say what the scaling problems are. Can anyone here elaborate?

Thanks

Apparently Freak 4's own clothes don't fit him in Poser when the Freak scale is on. Even magnets won't help. The temporary solution so far is to parent the clothes and pose them same way as the figure. Which is what we had to do with M4 clothes when testing Freak 4, btw, since we (most of us anyway) didn't get any Freak 4 outfits to test with him.


pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 2:31 PM

Willing to bet this is caused by the "orientation flipping" rigging bug.

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