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Subject: Real world abstract clouds compared to Vue clouds ...


Arraxxon ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 11:36 AM · edited Tue, 24 December 2024 at 10:57 AM

Well, we know, we really can produce realistic, abstract or monumental looking clouds using the great Vue cloud system.

But real nature can do astonishing stuff, too !

Take a look at this real photo of a weird cloud formation, called 'Morning Glory Cloud' :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MorningGloryCloudBurketownFromPlane.jpg

and more details about it here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Glory_cloud

A basic Vue preset atmosphere seems to be coming close to this weird, but controlled looking formation - in the atmosphere 'Physical' folder called 'Blue Poluted' ... ( for sure you can come closer than this with Vue's features ...


Tubbritt ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 12:24 PM

Wow, that's pretty fantastic.

The funny thing about that though is you would never even try do that in Vue because it's too different from what people expect to see.

Regards
James


ArtPearl ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 12:43 PM

Quote -

  ...it's too different from what people expect to see.

Regards
James

is exactly what I would go for - what's the point of  anything else?  :)

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
http://artpearl.redbubble.com/


eonite ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 2:21 PM

 Funny, just yesterday I googled  "crazy clouds" because I wanted to find out how far mother nature would actually go. And finally I spent about 2 hours watching some incredible and fantastic shots of clouds.
And I also thought that many people would probably shy away from using such clouds because they look so different from what we are used to see.
On the other hand Gill received many raving comments for her picture "Eria" where she used a stacked lenticular cloud.

Artpearl, you are so right. 

Anyway, I have checked your link, Arraxxon. Those Morning Glory clouds are quite impressive.
In fact I have seen them before and they were on the list of clouds I wanted to build in Vue.

So seeing your post I decided to give it a try (see below).

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


eonite ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 2:23 PM · edited Mon, 24 August 2009 at 2:24 PM

file_437855.jpg

 Tried to use real world dimensions. The thickness of the clouds is about 1 km.

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


Cherryman ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 3:12 PM

Nice work eonite!

Look here also, the dark roasted blend cloudsection.

www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php


eonite ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 3:36 PM

Quote - Nice work eonite!

Look here also, the dark roasted blend cloudsection.

www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php

Thanks, Cherryman :-)

Just checked out the link(s) you provided. Agree they`re absolutely stunning.

Now, you might think Im crazy but Im convinced that all those clouds could possibly be created in Vue (although its a hell of a challenge). The point is that you have to use the function editor to create them, because the spectral cloud model is somewhat limited. Creating such clouds requires that you can freely displace, distort your shapes and this is not possible with the current model, except when you use it along with the function editor. As I said, its a challenge and its not trivial, but its possible.
Below are a couple of examples, which do not resemble the ones in your links. Nevertheless they show a bit of what can be achieved.

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


eonite ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 3:38 PM

file_437862.jpg

 Those are very thin almost like sheets

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


eonite ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 3:39 PM

file_437863.jpg

 Lenticular cloud wall...

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


eonite ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 3:41 PM

file_437865.jpg

 Stacked lenticular cloud

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


eonite ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 3:43 PM

file_437866.jpg

 Strange cloud formation. Click on the pic to see more detail.

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


Arraxxon ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 3:57 PM · edited Mon, 24 August 2009 at 3:59 PM

Superb realization, eonite !  And your other cloud creations are fantastic and very interesting, too !

I agree with you both, eonite and Tubbritt, a lot of people viewing clouds looking this odd way in a 3D image probably would position them in a fantasy or surreal themed genre ...

But like ArtPearl mentioned, something like this for sure will draw attention, because looking quite different from the used to be norm ...

... really nice to have a powerful program like Vue, where we can simulate reality or just use our imagination ...


eonite ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 5:03 PM

Quote - Superb realization, eonite !  And your other cloud creations are fantastic and very interesting, too ! 

Thanks, Arraxxon :-)  A hell of a lot of time went into developing those.

Quote - But like ArtPearl mentioned, something like this for sure will draw attention, because looking quite different from the used to be norm ...

Absolutely.  I like this moment of surprise, when you look at a picture and you discover something you didn`t expect.

Quote - ... really nice to have a powerful program like Vue, where we can simulate reality or just use our imagination ...

Yes, indeed.

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


gillbrooks ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 5:19 PM

All the shots are amazing - some I've seen before, others not.  Haven't seen the morning glory ones.

Just one thing bothers me - take a look at the date on the photo in Arraxxon's link !! 

And of course, eonite has given us some fabulous examples in Vue.  Wanders off to practice YET again :lol:

Gill

       


Ailig68 ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 6:21 PM

Yeah gill, those are the clouds of the future ! :)))))


gillbrooks ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2009 at 7:35 PM

Hmmmmmm, how can one take a photo of something that's not happened yet ?

Spooky :lol:

Gill

       


Rutra ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2009 at 5:26 AM

Amazing work, eonite. You truly are a master of the function editor.

Quote - "Just one thing bothers me - take a look at the date on the photo in Arraxxon's link !!"

Huh? I see "11 august 2009". Was there some other date somewhere?


Chris1106 ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2009 at 6:43 AM

I think its the date in the comments.

|Date=2009-09-12 |Permission= |other_versions= }} image t)

But i guess that was a typo.


gillbrooks ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2009 at 8:30 AM

Quote - Amazing work, eonite. You truly are a master of the function editor.

Quote - "Just one thing bothers me - take a look at the date on the photo in Arraxxon's link !!"

Huh? I see "11 august 2009". Was there some other date somewhere?

An obvious typo that's now been corrected. Originally it was 'September 2009'  😄

Gill

       


eonite ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2009 at 8:54 AM

Quote - Amazing work, eonite. You truly are a master of the function editor

Thanks, Rutra! :-)

I wish I knew as much as you know about all other aspects of Vue...

http://www.eonmusic.ch http://www.artmatica.ch


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