This whole thing is just so fragile. My Poser library disappeared with the last Windows update. Unchecking the option for automatically detecting the local intranet sites and adding localhost fixed if. For now at least. I don't know whether IE still works for other stuff, I use Firefox normally.

I hate wasting time fixing problems that crop up magically, I don't need the new Poser 8 features that badly, so I went back to Poser Pro.

I think if the slider could be brought up with a right click when working in the menu, that would be great. (Of course, some folks don't seem to know about right-click....)

As for A/V programs: something to keep in mind is that no two programs catch and remove exactly the same threats. I'm not all that surprised that AVG caught something Norton did not, even though AVG is well below Norton in terms of threats detected overall. (And make no mistake - I am very far from a Norton booster. I came to have Norton when it caused problems in my computer a few years back and absolutely nothing would allow me to uninstall it. Even though it's now supposed to be better and quicker, I'm off it for good.) Using a variety of complementary but unrelated tools is a good approach to keeping virus-free (that, and using your head with browsing and opening downloaded files). I personally use NOD32 by Eset as my primary A/V, but various other tools are necessary for complete protection (e.g. Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, ComboFix).

FWIW.

 gtrdon - over time, one of the things peole have suggested should be improved was the library.

Who CARES what it runs on as long as it runs (and.. for most people, it DOES!)

Of course it's annoying when something on your computer stops it from running. I'd be mightly annoyed if I couldn't see the library on my computer. But I would start looking for reasons, because obviously it wasn't SUPPOSED to not show up. So there had to be something that stopped it. And that "something" had to be something specific for my computer. In this case, the main culprit seems to be certain aggressive (anti)virus programs. Since I personally use Avast, I didn't have any problems.

The point is: Don't shoot the messenger. Here's a little story from the Real World™: Today, on my job (I'm a train conductor by trade)  we had some 200 people from a cancelled train - it broke down - and they were now all expecting not only to get on the next train (mine...) but ALSO to get a seat AND compensation and preferably a gilded pillow to sit on, too.

Thing is.. I could do ONE of those: Get them on my train and transport them to their destination. One hour late. Which, naturally was annoying for the people who were delayed, but.. it wasnt' really MY fault - yet I had to listen to all the bitching and bickering and agree with them all. And I did. And smiled. And was as helpful as I could possibly be. Because I did understand why they were upset. I would be, too. BUT... it still wasn't my fault. Just as it isn't BB's fault that some people have a too-aggressive antivirus program installed.

I've twice bought a new computer that was already infected with Norton. It takes some work to get rid of it, but it's possible.

Quote - ... I've twice bought a new computer that was already infected with Norton. It takes some work to get rid of it, but it's possible.

Infected....lol. I'll agree, once it's got a foothold, it doesn't wanna go peacefully but rather kicking and screaming ;o).

Laurie

Quote - . But you guys just carry on making stuff up. Since I'm paid for my expertise on these subjects, the opinions of those of you who are not don't really matter too much.

True fact.. that is an actual picture of bagginsbill! He really does look like that!

Quote - > Quote - ... I've twice bought a new computer that was already infected with Norton. It takes some work to get rid of it, but it's possible.

Infected....lol. I'll agree, once it's got a foothold, it doesn't wanna go peacefully but rather kicking and screaming ;o).

Laurie

Infected with Norton goes right up near the top with Vista Features (the term used by those people that created the program when they explaining why the program has short term memory loss... "Are you sure you want to do this?" user clicks Yes.. Vista asks "This could be harmful, are you sure you want to do this?" user clicks yes... Vista asks, "I forgot what you said.... Did you want to go ahead and do this?"... What would have been funny if the Programers had also added a Blue Screen to pop up and activated the Web Cam at this point and had a Gallery of angst images!  Then they could have Vista say... just kidding! before proceeding... )

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Oh, my tired old eyes just LOVE those large icons...lolol.

Laurie

I'm giving up on the trial and sticking with Poser 7. I tried Bagginsbill's suggestions in the other thread and they didn't work. There may be great things in the future with this approach, but it's the first version of Poser I've had problems with. I'm not good enough with it to get all the advantages Poser 8 has that it's worth figuring out how to reconfigure antivirus and firewall programs simply to get a usable product. If I had paid the full price, I'd probably put a lot more effort into it. With a trial, it's not worth the trouble.

Maybe the next version of Poser will be worth getting. Right now, the trial isn't working and I've uninstalled it. I'm not paying over $100 to upgrade to a product where I know I'll need technical support just to make it run on my computer--particularly when the features causing the problems won't be fully implemented till some future version of the program.

I hate knocking something innovative. I'm not the most technical savvy computer user in the world--I'm also not the worst. I'm not buying software that doesn't work on my computer. If new software won't work with my computer configuration, that problem is with the new software, not my computer. My computer may not be completely configured properly, but that doesn't entirely matter. It works with the software on it. I don't need new software that doesn't work harmoniously on my computer. I may change my mind when I see how these features work in the future. That's when I'll reconsider buying a new version of Poser. I just hope that this isn't the Vista type of compatibility problem that will boost DS the way Microsoft boosted Mac sales with Vista. Right now, I prefer Poser. Poser 8 doesn't work for me, so I don't need it.

Where are you getting a trial? I'll be darned if I can find one. Poser 8? Am I missing something?

Laurie

Quote -  gtrdon - over time, one of the things peole have suggested should be improved was the library.

Who CARES what it runs on as long as it runs (and.. for most people, it DOES!)

Of course it's annoying when something on your computer stops it from running. I'd be mightly annoyed if I couldn't see the library on my computer. But I would start looking for reasons, because obviously it wasn't SUPPOSED to not show up. So there had to be something that stopped it. And that "something" had to be something specific for my computer. In this case, the main culprit seems to be certain aggressive (anti)virus programs. Since I personally use Avast, I didn't have any problems.

The point is: Don't shoot the messenger. Here's a little story from the Real World™: Today, on my job (I'm a train conductor by trade)  we had some 200 people from a cancelled train - it broke down - and they were now all expecting not only to get on the next train (mine...) but ALSO to get a seat AND compensation and preferably a gilded pillow to sit on, too.

Thing is.. I could do ONE of those: Get them on my train and transport them to their destination. One hour late. Which, naturally was annoying for the people who were delayed, but.. it wasnt' really MY fault - yet I had to listen to all the bitching and bickering and agree with them all. And I did. And smiled. And was as helpful as I could possibly be. Because I did understand why they were upset. I would be, too. BUT... it still wasn't my fault. Just as it isn't BB's fault that some people have a too-aggressive antivirus program installed.

I've twice bought a new computer that was already infected with Norton. It takes some work to get rid of it, but it's possible.

You can look at it that way, but all of these firewall and anti-virus problems would not have been an issue if the new library was written differently and in some other language.

I do understand SM wants the library and other parts to connect to the internet, so the can in the future create online libraries and render farms, after all they're looking at ways to make more income. I know many are exited by such thing, but was it worth that people do abandon poser due to the library issues?

If Poser goes the way BB describes, then we will only see more and more compatibility issues in the future.

The problem isn't aggressive firewall and anti-virus. Mine has worked for over 4 years without ever having a problem, every applications runs fine, newest and older ones. Now P8 comes and suddenly there are firewall and anti-virus issues. The first time ever. P8 is doing something to tick of security and that worries me...... normally people would say danger, watch out, something wrong with the application, get rid of it. You have a security breach.......

But with Poser that question isn't asked, no something is wrong with your firewall and virus. It can't be Poser, it must be something else and now scores of people let Poser access who knows what and allow their system security to be compromised.

Anyway, if Poser goes the online in future the way that is described, they will not see me upgrade anymore.

For now, one should be able to totally block internet access for Poser 8, but you can't. Do so and FireFly and the Library will stop functioning. That's not right, that should be the case, SM  takes unwanted control of my system. If Microsoft does it, we all cry havoc. If SM does it, so what?

 okay bagginsbill, that is great.  Thank you for my answer.....I am so glad, I was afraid I would not be able to install it.  Now that I can and won't have issues I will move it this weekend.  Sharen

 also, I am pretty sure BB is stating that nothing will happen to the library if you disconnect from internet, so there is nothing to worry about or even talk about.  I am quite pleased with the new GUI, I find that when I work on P8 and then go to my other pc that has P7 on it, I am not as thrilled all of a sudden, P8 GUI as I said before is a thrill to work with.  Sharen

ailkema, it's already been well demonstrated that P8 does not need the Internet running to have the library work. There have even been screenshots posted here.

Quote - ailkema, it's already been well demonstrated that P8 does not need the Internet running to have the library work. There have even been screenshots posted here.

I know, but try blocking internet access of Poser 8 and the library and firefly will not work anymore. I can switch off my internet and P8 will run fine, but I can not tell the firewall the block internet acces of P8. As long as that is the case, my system through P8 will be vurnable to attacks from the outside. This should have done completely different.

OMG Don't talk to him. With each post he spews more nonsense. Aeilkema doesn't understand anything, and the more you read what he says the more confused you will get.

I don't have time to write what it takes to explain what he doesn't understand and why he's drawing wrong conclusions.

Nor does he allow that - when I am forced to clarify an issue with a lengthy technical response, he says I'm being pompous.

ailkema, do a search on loopback and localhost. That is basically your machine talking to it's self. Very common in Unix. You machine sends a request to your tcp/ip stack and it says stay inside your cpu. Or loopback upon its self. Your argument doesn't hold water. If you don't believe me then unplug your computers ethernet cable or turn off you wifi app. P8 still works. These types of apps that use loopback and or your localhost are going to become more and more popular as time goes forward. There are lots of browser based apps currently. Look at what Google is working on. I will bet the google programmers will probably have to place certain pieces on your computer in adition to connection to a remote host to make the apps work. Your issue is the same as many others, P8 is the first loopback localhost app you have run. If not P8, then sooner or later these same issues are going to pop up with some other app. Do your self a favor and stay behind the tech curve and use whatever you used prior to installing P8 and leave the rest of us that want to follow the tech curve alone.

Oy vey.

Now why would SM do something like that? Not EVERYONE in the world has internet access. And until everyone does, I don't think a company would shoot themselves in the foot and lose sales by not working if it's not connected to the internet. If they would do that, I think they would tell you up front.

Laurie

Laurie,

Aeilkema specifically insists that I and SM are dumb and stupid. Your rhetorical question "why would SM do something like that" is easily countered from his point of view, simply by declaring that the designers are stupid and that while he understand the issues, I do not. That's his point. I don't understand the issues, and he does.

Well, either way, it's not worth being nasty over - by anyone. If no one has ever heard the saying "To a believer, no proof is necessary. To a sceptic, no proof is possible", then that should apply here. You can't preach to the choir bb no matter how hard you try. And aeilkema? You didn't write the code for the library and therefore can't tell others exactly how it works.

We all need to be civil, not bashing each other. Terms like "stupid" and other rude things are just not gonna fly with the staff very long, so if we can all calm down and play nice this could turn into a very informative discussion. I for one am going to be upgrading to Poser 8 before long and I'd like to have a heads-up on how it works before then ;o).

Laurie

As stated, I know you can run P8 without an internet connection or when wi-fi is switched off or the internet cable is plugged out. That's not my issue at all.

@BB I wasn't talking or reacting to you at all, but I guess you need to take everything that's being said about P8 personal. I was replying to someone else, who informed me about something. Please stop turning my posts into something they are not!

Please Rendo, do bring the ignore button back, then BB will not have the urge to react to everything I say, then he just can ignore me and I can ignore him and not be bothered anymore by his efforts to make my posts look like personal attacks on him or SM. I can't post anything on P8 anymore or he has to jump on it in a nasty way, while it doesn't even concern him.

Well, enough said for now, please BB do ignore me and my posts and I will do the same with yours. I guess your getting tired of me not understanding a thing, as I get tired of seeing you turn my posts into something they're not meant to be.

Quote - Well, either way, it's not worth being nasty over - by anyone. If no one has ever heard the saying "To a believer, no proof is necessary. To a sceptic, no proof is possible", then that should apply here. You can't preach to the choir bb no matter how hard you try. And aeilkema? You didn't write the code for the library and therefore can't tell others exactly how it works.

We all need to be civil, not bashing each other. Terms like "stupid" and other rude things are just not gonna fly with the staff very long, so if we can all calm down and play nice this could turn into a very informative discussion. I for one am going to be upgrading to Poser 8 before long and I'd like to have a heads-up on how it works before then ;o).

Laurie

Sorry must have been typing the same time as you did, I'll revert from adding to this topic and hope BB has the courtesy of not jumping on me when there's no need for it.

Unplug your machine from the internet. P8 does not need to be connected to the internet to work. It is doing it's own internal connection to it's self. There is pieces on your computer that came with your OS that P8 uses (much like a print driver or video driver) that "acts like" a mini internal webserver (trying to use laymen terms, since people might understand what a webserver does).

In the lib case P8 uses a flex server that is on your hard drive not somewhere else on the internet.

The basic problem is some win AV software is not allowing you own computer to communicate with it self.

When you look in a mirror in "Your bathroom" your image bounces back to you. It didn't use or require your neighbors mirror to see your reflection. P8 is sending a signal to a Mirror inside Your CPU, in "Your Computer" and some AV software is getting in the way of the image-signal being reflected back to you so you or in this case P8 can see the reflection-signal.

Stand in front of your mirror, in your house, in your bathroom. Now hold a piece of paper between you and the mirror. You can no longer see your reflection. Punch a hole in the paper and you can see yourself again. In some cases peoples AV software is that piece of paper between you and the mirror and is blocking the required reflection. What the solution is, is to punch a hole in that paper-your AV software so your own computer it can see its self.

Most AV software gives you the option to pick and choose what programs you allow to do what.

??? Yep, that made perfect sense ;o).

Laurie

Well, I agree that in general I should avoid being nasty.

And up to a point, that worked. The point at which it stopped was right about when adegner said

"so bagginsbill take that back to the coders please.  Try p8 on your main machine and goodluck"

I was fine with that, no problem. But aeilkema responded with

" do believe he is the coder....... the people who normally code Poser, didn't make the library. SM, for some reason, decided to go the easy and cheaper way."

That bit about the easy and cheaper way was total bullshit.

I later posted a screenshot, showing that Poser 8 works with no Internet access. Then adegner came back and said

"No baggins is correct, If i disable internet connectivity wity my firewall software the library disappears.
If I disable the wifi port by disconnect from the network the library does work.  My apologies to the coder when you disable the internet with zone alarm even though the port 127.0.0.1 is in the trusted zone it is disabled."

For that, adegner has my respect and thanks. Very nice of him to post confirmation that he had completely disabled his TCP/IP stack and that is not the same as having no Internet connectivity.

I could give a whole lecture about how different layers exist in your computer's communication stack, but that would be tedious both for me and the reader. For those interested, read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model

There are 7 layers in the model, and a firewall can be inserted to operate between any of those layers. A firewall is a simple device - it makes a decision whether to let a message pass between two of the layers or not. If it decides not to let the message pass, it doesn't pass.

Some firewalls are more sophisticated than others. Depending on which layer they operate on, you can get the right or the wrong effect.

A firewall configured to prevent communication with the Internet, but still allow internal computer communication should be operating between the transport and network layers (layers 3 and 4). It is that interface that is required to communicate outside the machine. Internal communication doesn't need to go to layer 3.

But if you have a firewall programmed or configured to interfere with communication above layer 4, then all communication is affected. Layer 4 is where TCP lives, and if you interfere with TCP, then you cannot use the comm stack for internal communication.

Things like McAfee's SiteAdvisor operate at Layer 7 (where HTTP lives) and are able to interfere with all forms of web services application layers, such as implemented in Google Desktop and Poser 8.

I tried to find info on how to configure SiteAdvisor to understand that 127.0.0.1 (your own machine) is OK to talk to but I can't find it. McAfee is such a huge problem for so many people that the number of hits on any phrase I tried is enormous, and I'm not finding the relevant information. Otherwise, I'd offer a solution for that case.
 

I can only find pages like this:

http://forums.devshed.com/iis-97/localhost-pages-hanging-possibly-because-of-firewall-install-159268.html

where McAfee stopped all internal communication and nobody has an answer as to what to do about it, other than remove or disable McAfee.

I completely understand you think it was BS and I understand aeilkema for thinking the way he does, but we must keep all things civil. This petty stuff is just more junk one needs to wade thru to get to the pertinent information. I'm assuming that some folks would like to learn something relevant to the problems they may be having and the arguments are making that really, really difficult.

I've got an idea. BB just supplies the technical stuff and aeilkema just states the problems he's having and one doesn't ruffle the feathers of the other. Period. :o)

Laurie

Thanks for the link bb....one more reason I'm glad I use AVG.

Laurie

I've just learned of another firewall scenario that prevents the library from showing.

First, I need to make clear that Poser 8's application server will NOT accept a connection from outside your computer. The listening socket is set up to only accept connections from applications communicating via the loopback interface - Layer 4 and up in the stack. Some sort of server exploit, such as buffer overrun tactics that have worked on servers in the past, will fail against Poser 8, because the message will not even get to Poser. The TCP layer is configured by Poser to not even bother Poser with a connect request that comes from outside.

So, even without enabling any sort firewall, it is impossible for a hacker to break into your computer via Poser 8's server. There is no point in setting up a firewall to disallow incoming external messages, because it already is blocked at the session layer. No such session can be established.

Now there is a report from a user that he cannot bring up the Library. This user is set up to go through an external firewall, running in some computer other than his. Because he has set up a proxy server to this external firewall, his browser always communicates through that external computer firewall.

Unfortunately, this user also has it configured to pass local loopback traffic out of his machine. Even though his external firewall is configured to allow the communication back to his machine, because it is passing outside first, it doesn't work. Poser sees the firewall server connecting to it, and the TCP layer rejects the connection, because Poser has told it that simply is not allowed. If this user were to properly configure his system, so that local traffic stays local, then there will be no problem.

Poser8 executable blocked from accessing the 'net in ZoneAlarm..

I hope that's what being spoken about, anyway.

But how does ZoneAlarm implement this? As is obvious, many people, perhaps including the people who wrote ZoneAlarm, equate "Internet access" with "TCP", the Transmission Control Protocol.

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that ZoneAlarm is preventing the library from working. I'm disagreeing with the semantics of the term "Internet" in this dialog you're showing.

If by "Internet" it actually means any use of the communications protocols, then sure it is not going to work. I can't help it if applications and people abuse the phrase "Internet Access". Obviously that checkbox is blocking a bit more than access to the Internet.

Internet is called that because "Inter" means "between", i.e. a network of communication between different computers. Clearly, ZoneAlarm is not confining its interference to just communication between computers.

I found this on some page - guy having same problem, except with MySQL

 I've just overcome a connection problem with a local Win32 installation of MySQL and thought I should pass on the solution in case anyone else is sprouting #$%!'s from the top of their head.

Essentially, I couldn't connect to the database; kept getting "Unable to connect..." error.

The problem was Zone Alarm.

The solution was to enter localhost / 127.0.0.1 in the Advanced section of the Security Settings as permissible in your Local Zone:

Control Center > Security > Advanced > Add > IP Address > Description: localhost / IP Address: 127.0.0.1

Quote - Actually, it does seem if you disallow access to the internet via ZoneAlarm, there are no libraries. Nothing to do with being connected or not.
The following pictures hopefully illustrate what  aeilkema means. My machine is also isolated from the 'net.

Poser8 executable blocked from accessing the 'net in ZoneAlarm..

Thanks, at least someone has understood my posts. Yep, that's what's happening. I don't have ZoneAlarm, but did it with Panda, Online Armor and now Outpost and all have the same result.

I understood you perfectly - you said you disabled Internet access, but you actually disabled all access for Poser.

Not the same thing.

and all them are blocking 127.0.0.1 the loopback Local adaptor which they should'nt be.

basically the programmers have taken a shotgun approach and blocked off all TCP.

so, we now know it's not SM / Poser 8 at fault. the Loopback is a known diagnostic tool standard which the firewall guys do know about.

And also, the point that keeps being ignored although I've made it several times:

Using a firewall to prevent Poser 8 from talking over the Internet is pointless. It doesn't talk over the Internet.

So why would you bork it up using shotgun methods to prevent it from doing something it doesn't do anyway?

Poser 8 DOES NOT TALK TO THE INTERNET.

There is absolutely no reason for you to try to prevent it. If you insist on using a tool incorrectly, blocking Poser from using the TCP stack, then you should just stop doing that.  It makes about as much sense as preventing it from talking on the Internet by DELETING poser.exe. Yes, that surely will prevent it from going over the Internet, no doubt about it.

erm BB? I'm not ignoring you.

I'm saying the FIREWALL programmers have borked it. I'm finding a lot of complaints where they've blocked the loopback anyway. thanks to this thread I now know why my project to run a internal webserver (homewiki) failed... 127.0.0.1 was being blocked even tho I'd opened it.

Quote - erm BB? I'm not ignoring you.

I'm saying the FIREWALL programmers have borked it. I'm finding a lot of complaints where they've blocked the loopback anyway. thanks to this thread I now know why my project to run a internal webserver (homewiki) failed... 127.0.0.1 was being blocked even tho I'd opened it.

Wasn't responding to you - cross posted. I agree with you. Thanks for amplifying.

It is aeilkema who keeps ignoring what I'm saying - not acknowledging the difference between the Internet and localhost, not acknowledging that he disabled all use of the comm stack even for localhost, not acknowledging that there is no reason to do this.

Note:

Most of the alternative Poser library browsers out there also use TCP/localhost to communicate with an app server that they added to Poser via Python.

For example, there are a few using PRPC: (Poser Remote Procedure Call)

http://prpc.sourceforge.net/

Anything using this technique will be blocked by these draconian firewall settings.

The new Poser application server is now designed to work with these types of add-on library managers. This is a benefit - they don't have to hack the application server into Poser, as it is now built-in. This is not a dumb decision.

Because things are decoupled in an approved, built-in way, more developers can take advantage of app-to-Poser integration, without having to resort to hacks and non-standard interfaces. This will grow over time, allowing more and more integration with other tools.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone, I just showed what I thought was happening with aeilkema. I myself have ZA set to allow traffic.

Quote - I'm not disagreeing with anyone, I just showed what I thought was happening with aeilkema. I myself have ZA set to allow traffic.

Sure, sure. But aeilkema said "The problem isn't aggressive firewall and anti-virus."

Yes it is.

He also said "P8 is doing something to tick of security and that worries me...... normally people would say danger, watch out, something wrong with the application, get rid of it. You have a security breach......."

I'm fine with him being worried. I'm not fine with him confusing people, and causing other users to be worried.

 I'm just using the built-in Vista firewall and the first time I try to run Poser 8, it pops up a message saying something about Vista firewall has blocked this and do I want to allow it? I say yes, and Bob's your uncle. No more problems.

ZoneAlarm, while originally bing a great program, can - just like Norton - create more problems than it solves.

 I got rid of it.

And know what? I have no problems with virusses, NOR do i have any problems with Poser 8.

If someting borks up your program, the first approach SHOULD be to find out WHAT it is rather than to blame the program itselg. Obviously the program is supposed to run, so if something is preventing it from doing so it ought to be clear that it's something else!

TrekkieGrrl
I don't think Norton is to blame in this case. It was due to and incompatiblility with the newly installed IE 8. When They  freeley upgraded my version (not Updates) to a newer one. The problem resolved itself and  P8 library works perfectly..You can't expect Norton to anticipate any
changes to to the interface before the release of  IE 8 was released. The many other applications that failed to work when IE was first released....

Despite all of the advantages affforded by the new P8 library interface. We must  bare the responsibility of keeping all elements (eg Flash, MSIE, Virus, Firewall, etc)updated to asure the compatibility problems do not occur...

BB, thanks for the link on OSI! I found it very informative and the layering makes TCP a lot more understandable to me.

@RobbyBobby:

We haven't heard back from you. Did you get it fixed?

I tried and tried to find an answer for how to configure McAfee properly to allow local apps to talk to each other. Searches produce so many hits for 127.0.0.1 because McAfee changes people's Email server to that address. Apparently McAfee wants Outlook to not talk directly to the mail server, but instead to go through a local mail server McAfee installs that removes spam and checks for viruses. Ironic isn't it, that McAfee sets up its own local app server for its own work, but won't let other local app servers operate.

I found a couple people saying that the problem was in some McAfee thing called"Privacy". I found two people who were unable to get access to their own servers by configuring the "Privacy" settings properly, telling McAfee about the servers. Instead, the only thing that worked for them was to disable or uninstall the "Privacy" thing altogether. That's not a great solution, but if McAfee Privacy is simply unable to permit programs other than itself to talk to your own computer, then there is no other option.

http://community.mcafee.com/showthread.php?t=165350

http://community.mcafee.com/showthread.php?t=134585

If there is some place in McAfee where you enter allowed port addresses, you should show us a screen shot of that. Somebody might be able to explain what to enter.

Poser 8 wants to accept connections on 127.0.0.1:11530