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Subject: P8 Full same price as upgrade

Dave-So opened this issue on Oct 06, 2009 · 18 posts
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Dave-So ( ) posted Tue, 06 October 2009 at 5:01 PM · edited Thu, 23 January 2025 at 3:28 AM

You can now buy P8 FULL for $129, same as the price for upgrade.
That's all good, but is a ripoff imo. Why not reduce the upgrade price too ?

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 06 October 2009 at 5:05 PM

Where can you buy P8 full for $129?

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 06 October 2009 at 5:10 PM · edited Tue, 06 October 2009 at 5:11 PM

not at CP or from SM direct thats for sure...they are showing 249 full / 129 upgrade.


hoplaa ( ) posted Tue, 06 October 2009 at 5:14 PM

It's an offer they sent via email. I got it also.

Dave-So ( ) posted Tue, 06 October 2009 at 5:24 PM

http://shop.smithmicro.com/dr/v2/ec_Main.Entry17c?SID=1839&SP=10034&CID=417574&PID=&PN=1&V1=1647425&CUR=840

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wingnut1 ( ) posted Tue, 06 October 2009 at 5:43 PM

I got that email too, even though I already bought the upgrade for $129. Very disheartening to see this on such a new product.

dlfurman ( ) posted Tue, 06 October 2009 at 8:22 PM

To pull in NEW customers perhaps?

If you have previous versions of Poser you did select the UPGRADE to purchase, right?
You got a discounted price for being a loyal customer. (Whatever)

Version 8 is out. Some issue with the release requiring a SR1, sales slow, have a sale, get some NEW customers.

What's the problem?

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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 06 October 2009 at 10:47 PM

well, it's not a "going out of business" promotion, anyway.
in case anybody asks.


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 12:47 AM

Quote - To pull in NEW customers perhaps?

New customers aren't the ones getting the emails though are they?

Lucifer_The_Dark ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 2:20 AM

We've seen this happen before shortly before Poser changed hands & development started on the next version, Curious Labs & EFrontier both did it & now Smith Micro are doing it, is Poser going to change address again?

ps Those ads for the price drop will probably appear in the next round of computer/art related magazines.

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wolf359 ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 5:36 AM

Software Never Retains or "stores" its Monetary value
particularly non standard niche apps like poser,bryce etc
only precious metals( gold,silver etc) do that.
The people who rush to buy the new poser version immediately upon release should know better by now that within six months the price will be lowered and you might even have an SR of two.

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Marque ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 5:38 AM

How would you get the emails if you're a new customer? I got this too and didn't let it bother me...getting used to this type of behavior from them.

Dave-So ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 6:13 AM

its actually a promotion which end on 1 November.
As the OP, what bothers me is the fact the ful price is the same as the upgrade price, which basically gives you, as an existing customer, no incentive to upgrade. I have not purchased P8 yet. Buying the upgrade at the same price as the full is no incentive for me, plus the fact there is no difference in the 2 versions, especially considering you download them. You usually get a larger discount for an upgrade version.

There is no doubt that within a year P8 will be on sale for $79 or less.

This one of the reasons I quit buying Poser and other apps right away. I bought P1 through P5 right away, in fact, I pre-ordered 4 and 5, but after the 5 debacle, I promised never again. It wasn't price at the time but the quality of the release, or lack of. Now, with funds not as easy to come by, price also plays into the equation, so I need to maximize what I get and reduce expenditures wherever possible. If Smith were to also reduce the upgrade price to $99 or so, that would be an incentive for me now to upgrade.

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
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gagnonrich ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 9:38 AM

I wonder if the license allows giving away an older version if a person buys the full version instead of taking the upgrade path?

Even if the license doesn't, other laws may take precedence, such as the first sale doctrine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Ideally, there should be a discount on the upgrade price as well as the full version.

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wolf359 ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 10:11 AM

Quote - I wonder if the license allows giving away an older version if a person buys the full version instead of taking the upgrade path?

This May be of interest:
"Software company Autodesk has failed in its bid to prevent the second-hand sale of its software. In a long-running legal battle it has not been able to convince a court that its software is merely licensed and not sold."
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AUTODESK DEFEATED**

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Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 4:01 PM

Now thats very interesting reading indeed.

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LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 5:10 PM

Extremely!

<Runs out to garage to get all the software boxed up for Garage Sales and get's them ready for E'Bay>

Dave-So ( ) posted Wed, 07 October 2009 at 6:32 PM

very good news on resale.

EF used to have a license transfer form on their site.  i sold Shade that way, and Poser was saleable as well.
That's what I was thinking though ... buy the full version which takes you out of that upgrade loop and sell the older versions.

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

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