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Subject: Vue 8 first Impressions and Screens


Mazak ( ) posted Tue, 13 October 2009 at 3:54 PM · edited Mon, 13 January 2025 at 5:48 AM

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Options 1

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Mazak ( ) posted Tue, 13 October 2009 at 3:55 PM

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Mazak ( ) posted Tue, 13 October 2009 at 3:56 PM

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Mazak ( ) posted Tue, 13 October 2009 at 3:58 PM

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Full Screen shot with OpenGL shader 4

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Mazak ( ) posted Tue, 13 October 2009 at 3:59 PM

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Vue8 Imports automatic Vue7 collection :)

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Mazak ( ) posted Tue, 13 October 2009 at 4:01 PM

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And terrain editor :)

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Mazak ( ) posted Tue, 13 October 2009 at 4:05 PM

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Poser Import:

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Rich_Potter ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 2:07 AM

any improvements to the vegetation/plant editor?

Rich

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silverblade33 ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 2:25 AM

Rich
I don't see any differences between 7.5 Infinite and 8 infinite plant editor myself?

wonder if I should set the UI colour to my preffered mid grey (128 RGB is bang on mid grey) or leave it dark like that, hm....

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ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 2:38 AM · edited Wed, 14 October 2009 at 2:43 AM

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Disable advanced previews "if" resources drop below:

Used to be "when", not "if".

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Jonj1611 ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 3:22 AM

Seems the main change is the terrain editor, everything else just seems to be tweaked or well, the same as before.

Hopefully the full list when released will give a better idea of anything different.

Jon

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ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 3:38 AM

The only thing left to show us is the comparison sheet for all Vue 8 incarnations (even Vue Frontier for just Poser folk).

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Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 3:48 AM

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Render Area Test.

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Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 3:57 AM

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Post render options

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Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 4:01 AM

One word about Poser import. With Poser shader tree enabled Vue becomes very unstable and the green Hulk effect is back.
In my example I show Poser import without Poser shader tree!!

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Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 5:25 AM

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The new render engine in Vue 8 render faster but different than Vue 7.5. We need learn some things new.

Here a scene render time in Vue7.5 9:23 minutes

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Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 5:28 AM · edited Wed, 14 October 2009 at 5:30 AM

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And here the scene in Vue8.0

Render time **Vue 8.0 5:40 minutes.
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The scene is with Radiosity

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Plutom ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 7:40 AM

Does Vue 8 have the cabability of linking Poser 8?  Jan


silverblade33 ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 8:28 AM · edited Wed, 14 October 2009 at 8:30 AM

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Pluton aye Vue8 has optiosn for Poser 8 and poser pro :)

does seem to render faster and better IMHO
I'd been making this in 7.5 for past 2 weeks, so rendered in v8 yesterday , which was nice timing, lol!
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1961424

strata filter quick test, i'm useless at terrains, lol

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Crowning ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 8:40 AM

Just in case no-one noticed this: the 3D view display quality now has an "OpenGL 2.1" setting, that means that ATI users are now officially supported (just in case you shouldn't know, ATI only supports OpenGL 2.0 and 2.1) and won't get this annoying message at start-up anymore.

I've changed to Nvidia some weeks ago, though.


Plutom ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 9:51 AM

Quote - Does Vue 8 have the cabability of linking Poser 8?  Jan

Gad, note to self.  Wait until all pictures download before asking a stupid question.  sneeks away for another cup of coffee.  Jan


Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 4:15 PM

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The V8 Material editor has new function Effects buttons at the top right corner!

From left to right

  1. One sided
  2. Disable AA
  3. Disable Indirect Light
  4. Disable Caustis
  5. Ignore lighting
  6. Ignore Atmosphere
  7. Don't cast shadow
  8. Don't receive shadow
  9. Only shadow

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Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 4:18 PM

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The Bump and Displacement tab:

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Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 4:21 PM

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+ Normal mapping.

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kenmo ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 5:54 PM

How is Sketchup model support?


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Wed, 14 October 2009 at 6:17 PM

I thought they might get to normal maps once they started better terrain sculpting.  Good news.

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westryde ( ) posted Thu, 15 October 2009 at 3:28 AM

Does Vue 8 import Vue 7 libraries other than scenes eg plants, objects etc?


Mazak ( ) posted Thu, 15 October 2009 at 3:40 AM

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> Quote - How is Sketchup model support?

Here a screen from V8 manual.

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Mazak ( ) posted Thu, 15 October 2009 at 3:43 AM

Quote - Does Vue 8 import Vue 7 libraries other than scenes eg plants, objects etc?

In installation setup Vue8 asks you to import your Vue7 libraries.

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Mazak ( ) posted Thu, 15 October 2009 at 4:35 AM

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Rigged meshes import now with full bone structure :D

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Mazak ( ) posted Thu, 15 October 2009 at 4:42 AM

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Skeleton Editor:

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slonishko ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 12:55 AM

I would like to see some more impressive shots of the "overhangs" and horizontal digging/sculpting myself (;

I have been waiting for that since 4 Pro


Jonj1611 ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 7:30 AM

Apparently they aren't that impressive unfortunately, I would too like to see something impressive with the overhangs etc because the screenshots I have seen so far well are mediocre at best.

Jon

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Mazak ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 8:38 AM

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I was never a terrain editor expert, but with new V8 it is fun to be creative. 😄 You can paint effects where ever you want. Digging holes or raise cliffs with overhangs are very easy to create. The only point you must take care is you working with polygons! This polygons can be overstressed and this can create unexpected results. :mellow:

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Jonj1611 ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 8:52 AM

It looks to be a good start, is it difficult to control?

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Jon

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Mazak ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 9:06 AM · edited Sat, 17 October 2009 at 9:07 AM

No, it is very easy! You setup the tools with sliders. You get direct feedback and if you paint something you didn't like hit undo. A limitation: You can dig caves in a mountain but you can not create a tunnel through this mountain.

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Jonj1611 ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 9:09 AM

Ah cool, shame like fun, shame about the tunneling though.

Thanks for the feedback

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Jon

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gillbrooks ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 12:09 PM

Quote - I was never a terrain editor expert, but with new V8 it is fun to be creative. 😄 You can paint effects where ever you want. Digging holes or raise cliffs with overhangs are very easy to create. The only point you must take care is you working with polygons! This polygons can be overstressed and this can create unexpected results. :mellow:

Mazak

So is it a bit like pulling polygons about like in ZBrush???

Gill

       


Mazak ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 12:17 PM

Quote - > Quote - I was never a terrain editor expert, but with new V8 it is fun to be creative. 😄 You can paint effects where ever you want. Digging holes or raise cliffs with overhangs are very easy to create. The only point you must take care is you working with polygons! This polygons can be overstressed and this can create unexpected results. :mellow:

Mazak

So is it a bit like pulling polygons about like in ZBrush???

Yes. It is the same problems like ZBrush.
A Voxel based system for the Terrain Editor would be a dream to work with. Like 3D-Coat with CUDA. 😄

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Mazak ( ) posted Sat, 17 October 2009 at 5:12 PM

First update is available.
God News or Bad News??

Copy Paste from Lee Randall:

Quote - Thought you would like a new update for the weekend

Vue 8 - Build 47069 EEF

Integrated mode:
Fixed a problem when Baking a procedural terrain to polygons in xStream which would not keep 3d painted information.
Fixed a possible problem of objects rendering black when "raytraced shadows" setting is on, with VRay

Standalone:
Fixed displaced meshes torn in some cases
Fixed Vue Infinite Uninstaller which could not complete on some windows OS in non english language
Fixed a possible crash when adding the Autumn White Birch to an ecosystem list of species
Fixed custom indirect lighting setting (Radiosity samples) dropping from 1024 to 256 when closing the preference tab
Fixed saving animation preview to disk
Added the possibility to re-locate the previous collections folder location, if Vue can't find them automatically
Fixed resizing of grouped objects when a point light was added to the group.
Fixed GI computation when rendering miniatures
Fixed a possible crash when Dynamic Subdivision in set to ON
Fixed a few crashes in the terrain editor (for instance, when undo is set to 1)
Fixed Color Editor glitches
Added the ability to limit allocated video memory


Known issues


Integrated mode:
Some Icons in the Vue toolbars in XSI are missing
Vue slowy updates scenes that include large meshes, when closing the atmosphere editor
"Show scene" option in xStream's Terrain Editor may not work properly in some cases
xStream sometimes duplicates the host application lights, when the Vue scene is saved from within the host application's interface

Standalone:
Global Illumination baking can be broken in some cases
possibility of wrong cloud rotation when reading back scenes from Vue versions prior 7.5
Rotoscoping is broken
Potential crash when un-referencing a class of objects
The option to turn a parametric terrain to standard, and vice versa is not available
Bad 3d painted terrain preview in the Render Scene preview
The inflate tool sometimes creates holes in the terrain geometry
Editing a Master Terrain does not update the references
OpenGL Sky preview sometimes load with a bad texture
Metaclouds do not disappear from display when hidden
Possible memory error with Mesh Dynamic Subdivision on 32-bit platform, when the Quality Boost is high (> 1.0)
Moving several keayframes at a time in the timeline is not possible
OpenGL sky preview sometimes disappears

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raffyraffy ( ) posted Sun, 18 October 2009 at 4:51 AM

Hi Mazak,

you are ours reference for Vue8. :-)

Please, can you tell me somethings about the new feature "New Directional Displacement Engine" for texturing ?

Thanks a lot!

Luigi.


silverblade33 ( ) posted Sun, 18 October 2009 at 7:55 AM

It means it has NORMAL mapping :)
normal mapping is like dispalcement mapping, but, as well as how "high" it pushes the polygon of the surfce outward, normal mapping also tells the renderer what DIRECTION to push it in

that's what games use ot make character faces usign a low polygon mesh that's then dispalced outwards in different angles to give precise detials, etc

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Mazak ( ) posted Sun, 18 October 2009 at 8:11 AM

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I have only one example a made myself dress in 3-Coat. The dress I used in Poser for dynamic cloth. Here the Imported result in Vue. I must re-enable the normal map by hand, vue did not recognize the texture from Poser!

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Mazak ( ) posted Sun, 18 October 2009 at 8:12 AM

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And here the normal map:

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Mazak ( ) posted Sun, 18 October 2009 at 8:21 AM

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Here a shot from the animation:

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thd777 ( ) posted Sun, 18 October 2009 at 8:23 AM · edited Sun, 18 October 2009 at 8:24 AM

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One can also specify the displacement direction as horizontal or vertical only. Here is a quickie example. I can think of several useful applications of that...

Ciao
TD


musi ( ) posted Tue, 20 October 2009 at 9:10 AM · edited Tue, 20 October 2009 at 9:14 AM

 What are the system requirements (Mac and PC), and does the manual list the requirements for versions other than Infinite? Does it seem more CPU-intensive than 7 was? Thanks.


Mazak ( ) posted Tue, 20 October 2009 at 9:48 AM

Attached Link: http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_7_infinite/?page=16

I think its almost the same requirements as Vue 7.5. The link I post are the absolute minimum requirements! About other versions we cant give a  judgment because pre release is Vue8 Infinite. Vue8 render slight faster in radiosity mode than Vue7.5. The new OpenGL shader need a powerful grafix board, but you can always switch back to standard OpenGL.

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