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Subject: dynamic towel?


Believable3D ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 6:45 PM · edited Fri, 07 February 2025 at 10:07 PM

No luck here or at ShareCG.... looking for a dynamic towel that would wrap around the neck and drape down the chest on each side (I'm assuming that's possible to do in the Cloth Room).

Any ideas?

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markschum ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 7:01 PM

you can use the cloth square primitive , and just texture it . scale to suit before running the cloth simulation.


fivecat ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 7:26 PM

If you want dynamic cloth, you have to learn a bit about using dynamics, and how to make a cloth drape over shoulders. And how to use displacement, to get a rough texture.  It hasn't quite got to the point of you expressing a desire and the software does it.


ockham ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 7:27 PM

As markschum says.  The trick is to get the angles right.
Try leaning the figure forward and slanting the towel so the
edge where it first meets the neck is the lower part of the towel.
You want to give the towel a chance to fold up against the
neck and shoulders before the rear part starts to drape.

Also, the Marble node plugged into Bump makes a very
good terry-cloth texture.  Scale the Marble down until its
swirls look very small.

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My ShareCG freebies


Believable3D ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 8:57 PM

markschum, thanks. I'll have to look at the primitives, which I've never paid much attention to.

fivecat: No, really??

ockham: thanks, yeah it's the peculiarity of angles that I was wondering about. Was curious if there was something that needed to be put "into shape" before such a simulation would work. In which case, it would be nice if a modeller had done some of that aspect of the legwork.

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markschum ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 10:22 PM

you can either run two simulations and export the cloth at the end of one . import it for the start of the second. Or you can learn to use the choreographeed group to help contol drape and positioning.

example. cloth around neck , ends draped down chest of M4.

  1. position M4 , face down with cloth scaled and positioned over the neck, edge down and almost vertical.
    at frame 20 keyframe m4 same position,
    at frame 60 set m4 standing - final pose for picture , head and neck as close to same place as you can manage.
    run simulation
  • cloth should fall and collide with the neck , draping over it with ends hanging vertically down
  • at frame 20 M4 should start to move upright and the cloth will begin to drape over the chest area.


Believable3D ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 10:37 PM

Thanks for the tips!

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markschum ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 10:43 PM

cloth room needs some thinking about how best to do something. Theres often several ways that will work. Just be persistant and try a few different methods.

good luck


markschum ( ) posted Sat, 19 December 2009 at 10:48 PM

file_445083.jpg

Heres my result using the method I described. 

Maybe a bit long and needs a towel texture but not horrendous.


mihoshi1de ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 11:11 AM

There is a dynamic towel tutorial from smith micro: http://my.smithmicro.com/tutorials/1420.html


lululee ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 11:20 AM

Splendid info in this thread. Thanks to everyone.
cheerio
lululee


Believable3D ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 3:45 PM

Mihoshi, thanks for that link. It's not the sort of thing I'm thinking of at the moment, but good reference.

Markschum, that looks pretty good.

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Mark@poser ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 9:54 PM

While not really dynamic, there is an A3 Towel Set at Daz. I've used it on other figures such as V4 as can be seen here.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1801607&user_id=1076&np&np


Believable3D ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 10:06 PM

Thanks, that's what I'm looking for, but I'd really like dynamic. Wonder what would happen if I converted it....

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rjjack ( ) posted Sun, 20 December 2009 at 10:29 PM

Quote - Thanks, that's what I'm looking for, but I'd really like dynamic. Wonder what would happen if I converted it....

if you weld the obj and make 'constrained' some polygons i think this is dooable and probably easier than use the cloth plane


shuy ( ) posted Mon, 21 December 2009 at 2:47 AM

file_445145.jpg

> Quote - Thanks, that's what I'm looking for, but I'd really like dynamic. Wonder what would happen if I converted it....

You obtain weird mess after many hours of calculation. This is 2 sided mesh, which does not work well as a dynamic. I've used this towell as a dynamic but first edited it in modeling program. On the pic you see original towell and one sided.


markschum ( ) posted Mon, 21 December 2009 at 4:44 PM

Poserworld has a set http://www.poserworld.com/Downloads/Michael.1.2/9467/Towels.aspx

dont know if they sell them seperatly.


Believable3D ( ) posted Mon, 21 December 2009 at 6:44 PM

Thanks. I do have a lifetime membership there.

Honestly, though - while the one around Michael's waste looks pretty good, the draped ones in that render....

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