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Subject: censorship should be fair
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Okay, I will. This is silly. As Mesh points out so bluntly, we have female nudity all the frigging time in the galleries and no one bats an eye. Heck, in some corners of this place, it's almost expected. But show a man in the same way, and you'd think we were condoning the end of the world as we know it. I thought we were living in the 21st century. Am I in error?
This is just the way it is. Look at movies, full frontal female nudity, rated-r...full frontal male nudity, rarely done `cause you may get a nc-17 rating and if he is shown erect...definetly nc-17. Just the way it is, in almost all things. You don't see nude male...erect statues in museums. The world is not truly equal...welcome.
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while we're on the subject of whats ok and whats not ok, some one please explain this to me... the male genitals are a bad thing the femal genitals are a good thing why then do michael and the dork have genitals and victoria and posette do not?... so here's how it looks... It's ok for a guy to have genitals but god forbid you show them off... It's not ok for a girl to have genitals, but you must at all cost make it look like she does... I'm confused :(
gee atthisstage, youre a real sweetie, you know that? ;) If you want to go strictly art speaking, for thousands of years, the female body has been in nude sculptures, paintings, and on the sides of bathroom stalls. The difference between erotic and art (lets leave erotic art alone for the time being) is that if you look down below on say, the Venus De Milo, you cant tell if Venus was moaning, hot, or even bothered when she was being sculpted. On a male sculpture, well, it isnt too difficult. It is also known that the female body is much more artist, even fluid if you will, than the male body. The curvature, the posture, everything. Say you have a friend over, and youre a guy (which means I fall to that category). If you happened to be in one of the Poser galleries and they see a naked woman rendered, they may raise an eyebrow. Then you tell them that it is art. Well, by standard, whether the friend is male or female, they more often than not agree. Now take the same situation and replace it with a rendered naked guy with a boner in the gallery. Oh its just art. Yeah, whatever. I dont remember seeing him in the Sisteen Chapel. I'm not justifying either way, but the way it was back then has carried over in artists' eyes for centuries. And thus, we end up here. 
TOS for images: Acceptable Image Guidelines 1. No depictions of physical arousal or sexual acts. Your picture breaks that guideline. To leave it is to be unfair to others who have had their pictures removed for similar reasons. (Yes, it does not say this in the forum area but does state it in the gallery uploads, but I suspect that they forgot to include the warning for the forums as the forums were not originally intended to have pictures - I think.) And it's much more difficult to prove female arousal in a picture than male arousal.
Excuse me, Mister Moderator, but there was a series of WIP images not that long ago in which the naked female's nipples were in a state of arousal. The artist himself commented on it, and, believe me, they were hard to miss. I didn't see anyone rushing to delete that image..... This is all sounding far too much like Katherine Hepburn talking to her necklace in "Lion in Winter": "I'd hang you from the nipples but it'd shock the children."
{That rule is new I remember when that rule was not in place, Is there a reason why this rule was put in place?} No, it's not new, it's just rarely invoked and more rarely enforced. It was one of the guidelines back when JACK was in charge here (and is one of the rules over at 3D Commune). Very few people so far have "pushed" the rule, and fewer have been "caught" doing so - congratulations Mesh_Magick - I suspect someone complained to RCook directly, and he acted immediately - and also suspect that the images with erect nipples may be vanishing soon as well now...
And it's much more difficult to prove female arousal in a picture than male arousal. And...once again...MY ARGUMENT ABOUT A PICTURE THAT WAS REALLY OFFENSIVE....Why was that not removed from gallery, and the other subsequent copycat pics from the same guy???? Either she was aroused beyond belief...Or, she had been mutilated. I am still upset over that one. Since then, we have had popsicles, fingers, snakes and fingers...(currently). There should not be a double standard, here. But, sadly, there does seem to be. Oh, oh...and, yes!!!! A graphic by Nikki was removed about a month ago for showing spent penises and puddles of "stuff" on the ground. That was one day beforethe picture that I found to be so very, very offensive was posted, and, allowed to remain. Now, the picture by Nikki had 6 figures, all intricately posed, an interesting background, and, facial expressions. The one I objected to...that was allowed to remain...had a photo background...a standard poser chick/texture, naked with legs spread in an impossible to do in real life position, and, focal point...extended...EXTENDED to the EXTREME..TO THE POINT OF MUTILATION, genitals. But, the male mods let this one stay. Hummmmm...sexism? You bet.
{I suspect someone complained to RCook directly, and he acted immediately And, this...to my simple mind...is the most disturbing line in this whole thread. } A moderator's job is, essentially to respond to complaints, put out fires, and make sure that posts are kept in the appropriate forum. That and deal with behind-the-scenes politics that rarely ever effect the rest of us (when we're lucky)... If I understand this correctly, the problem in this case was a POST - posts don't have nudity filters, etc., and the image violated gallary TOS. And there may have been multiple complaints. It is unfortunate that nobody who knows what really happened has stepped forward to offer an explanation - THAT is what I find disturbing.
A moderator's job is, essentially to respond to complaints, put out fires, Hummmmm...I really seriously objected to ONE image. I messaged the powers that be...NO RESPONSE...nada, zip. Sorry, I think they play favorites, here, perhaps? Or, maybe, the female point of view does not count quite as much.
The image was removed because it violated the Renderosity image posting guidelines. And I wasn't the only one to remove the images. Another admin helped "clean up" as well. As to claiming that I'm the one upset Mesh_Magick, look over this thread again. I wasn't the one ranting for, what is it, seventeen posts you've made now? :)
RC, sticking your tongue out and going "Nya nya nya nya nya" won't win you any friends, trust me. If you had bothered reading this thread, you'd note that people are a little upset not so much about the image but the sometimes odd sense of double standards when it comes to what constitutes prurience. I don't want to get into the age-old battle about porn-versus-"art", but let's face it: you grant those nude Vickies a helluva lot more leeway than anything Mesh could have brought to the table.
Now your stepping on nails here! Charlie Brown assinine?? What an absurd thought. You ever heard of such drivel?? Mesh Magick, you may have actually made a signifigant point somewhere along here about censorship and how lunatic it can be at times, thus my own silly dickasaurus posting, but please think before posting such a flame of someone that actually has a heart and a brain and uses a great deal of both around here....I wish many times more people were as diplomatic as CB, we'd have a lot less of capital letters and flaming!
Well, I gues this would be a violation in it's own right, but I really don't care, because I'm getting sick of seeing your retarded and otherwise self-serving and oft-ludicrous meanderings posing as commentary. Mesh_Magick, you are a complet idiot. Yes, that and a moron, a buffoon, and, well, probably lots of things. But if I had to choose one, I would settle for "jackass". And, by the way, it's Michelangelo, not Michael Angelo. I don't think they treated names in the past the same as we do now.
Aren't there a lot more important things to get all huffy about than this? They are already allowing you to post this here over and over and over again, what would you like now?? Do you want them to turn it into a porn site just so you will be happy again? C'mon, enough already, a point was kinda made, although I question the principals, only it all could have been made without the special effects and so much accusing where it wasn't warranted, which is what CB tried to point out but went right over your hard on, rcook already came on and "explained", which he did not actually HAVE to do, so,.....what time is it???
What is the big effing deal??? "No depictions of physical arousal" Read that over and over again 1,000,000 times. Now, it is against the TOS to post a pic of an erect penis. You want to post a softy, go ahead. As for females and arousal...how in the hell do you prove THAT? Certainly not by nipples. Some Nipples are perky always. Some get perky when it's cold (or when they're naked) and on and on. I don't understand why some people in this thread insist on acting like babies and crying unfair! and Censorship! If you want to see erect penises, try renderotica. It's open! -WTB
Erect Nipples If there is a chill in the air...or even a slight breeze a woman's nipples will become erect...that doesn't signify arousal...men's peni (or is penises correct) on the other hand, when exposed to cold air shrink into obscurity. Lack of Gravity Even with a lack of gravity, a flacid penis is still flacid no matter what direction it's pointing. It's fairly easy to detect a floating flacid penis as apposed to a raging hard on! Ho-hum...next topic please
(((Naw, I think its the "last chicken in the shop" look appearance that makes the Penis offensive. ;-)))) LMFAO!!!!!!! Thanks casa....you just made my day. Very funny assessment.<<< Well, I can't claim "ownership" of that assessment. That is the original property of the insane perpetrators of "Red Dwarf," the comic sci-fi show that proves (well, with "British Men Behaving Badly", "Black Adder" and a few others) to this American that the Brits definitely do comedy better. But I thought with the temperature rising at the rate it was that that observation might slow the impending explosion.
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Not that its a big deal but my alien joke was deleted from the poser forum by rcook, The image featured 3 aliens and a poser male with a hardon, I did click nudity and a hardon is not sex it is a state of arrousal, Yet images with giant boobs and female private parts are allowed to be viewed.