Build a simple room using only Poser?

Can we do it?

Sure, why not ... and you can use any version of Poser, too !

Stay tuned ...

This is a SPECIAL EDITION for ***parkdalegardener.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Attached Link: http://www.drgeep.com/FreeProps/FreeProps.htm

... and you can get a 1 Meter Scale prop, also

Use 'em in good health.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

P.S. da NaySayGuy is on vacation in sunny Italy so Ed Iffis is going to assist with this tutorial.

U R awesome!  Love your tutorials.   :) 

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Build a simple room using only Poser?

Can we do it?

Sure, why not ... and you can use any version of Poser, too !

Stay tuned ...

This is a SPECIAL EDITION for ***parkdalegardener.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

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And parkdalegardener appreciates it.
Thanks Doc.

My pleasure and ...... remember ...................... questions are always welcome.

Got your free Scale props yet? :blink: ___HUH?

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Quote - My pleasure and ...... remember ...................... questions are always welcome.

Got your free Scale props yet? :blink: ___HUH?

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Yes thank you Doc. I am a little occupied at the moment however. I live in the downtown core of Toronto ON and fools are tearing the city down around me. Makes it a little hard to concentrate with riots, burning cop cars, military and police choppers overhead and the never ending sirens.
Oh thank the powers that be. The rain is starting even as I type. Maybe this will slow the idiots down and help put out the fires. 1.24 billion of my tax dollars at work.
pdg

Hey pdg,

I am very sorry that you are in that extremely ugly situation.  It seems that certain parts of this world are slowly (maybe not so slowly) going insane.  I sincerely hope that you can keep your distance from the fray.  Please stay safe.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Awesome. Geep you are the man. :P

Also, stay staf pdg!! 

everyone's downsizing...I remember when you could get a ten-foot pole...;)

@ lilangel
Thanks.

OPTIONAL HOMEWORK

If we want our GROUND prop to have polygons that are exactly
1" square ... what Scale should we use?

***If we want our BOX prop to have polygons that are exactly
1" square ... what Scale should we use?

**@ ryuslilangel

HELP ... I boo-booed and accidentally duplicated the post with "Page 3" (above)
Please delete the first copy  with the Page 3 graphic and, also, this post.

Thank you.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]**

What Scale (%) did Ed use for the BOX prop?

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What Scale (%) did Doc use for the GROUND prop?

What Scale (%) did Ed use for the BOX prop?

Hey Doc;
GROUND=12%
BOX=80%

BTW The fools quieted down about 3am local time but are expected back in about 45 minutes for the next round at 10am. I live on the 3rd floor of a high rise so all this is going on right in front of my eyes but don't worry, I've cancelled a landscaping job for today and will put it off till the protesters/anarchists leave tomorrow. Got some real interesting photos though
pdg

To be precise ...
(and we want to be precise so the parts of our room fit together properly)
... the GROUND should be 12.5%.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

~ NOTE ~
Changing the Scale of the GROUND was just an exercise but we DO want to change the Scale of the box prop to 80%.

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Hey pdg,
Very good Grasshopper.

To be precise ...
(and we want to be precise so the parts of our room fit together properly)
... the GROUND should be 12.5%.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

~ NOTE ~
Changing the Scale of the GROUND was just an exercise but we DO want to change the Scale of the box prop to 80%.

Hey Doc;

Question: I used the scale dial on the GROUND prop to come up with my 12% answer. In close up it looked correct. I figured that I had better check 12.5% and see what happens. When I went to manually type in 12.5% in the parameter dial I found out that the actual setting was indeed 12.5 already despite the 12% reading that was showing before trying to manually enter the parameter. Is there a way have my dial show the decimal setting by just spinning it as accuracy counts?
pdg

Sorry pdg :sad:

The short answer is .... NO !

Poser displays a rounded (up of down) value depending on the actual value used internally.
( .1 to .5 displays rounded down, e.g., 12.5% will display 12%)
( and .6 to .9 displays rounded up. e.g., and 12.6% will display 13% )

>>> Always type in an actual value when accuracy is needed as opposed to "spinning" the dial.

Note - The amount of change that occurs when using the dial can be modified by changing the "sensitivity" in the Parameter Settings window.  Play with it and see how it works ... ;=]
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*** POP QUIZ ***
Why did we want to duplicate our box prop to make the "8 Inch Box?"**

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*** POP QUIZ ***
Why did we want to duplicate our box prop to make the "8 Inch Box?"**

Easy. The new box is scaled to 100% because it is a new prop. The old box was at 80% because it was scaled down from the Poser primitive. Kinda cool really.

Gotcha on the rounding of the dials. I never noticed that before till it came up in this lesson.

Thanks a lot for this Doc. I'm learning more and more all the time and no doubt others are as well even if they don't post to the thread.

pdg

*" Easy. The new box is scaled to 100% because it is a new prop. The old box was at 80% because it was scaled down from the Poser primitive. Kinda cool really."

*YES !!!  ... Give that man a GOLD STAR !!! *:thumbupboth:

BUT ... Do you know why we want the Scale to be 100% ?

Quote - *" Easy. The new box is scaled to 100% because it is a new prop. The old box was at 80% because it was scaled down from the Poser primitive. Kinda cool really."

*YES !!!  ... Give that man a GOLD STAR !!! *:thumbupboth:

BUT ... Do you know why we want the Scale to be 100% ?

I might be over thinking this but does it have something to do with a standard (US) sheet of plywood or drywall being 4X8 ft. thus giving us a building module that can be evenly factored into those dimensions? 1ft. being 1.5 boxes thus we get 4X8 ft. = 6X12 boxes

pdg

You are on the right track my friend ... but ... stay tuned and soon ...

... all shall become clear .................................. maybe. :lol:

Here's a hint ...

What happens if we make the 8 Inch Box prop's Scale = 1200% ? :blink:

If the squares on our 8 Inch Box prop are 1" square when the Scale is 100% ...

... then if we change the Scale to 1200%, each square would be ? inches square*...

... or one ________  _________ .

:blink: ___ HUH ?

• NOT square inches ... but how many inches wide by how many inches high?

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***** POP QUIZ *****

If the squares on our 8 Inch Box prop are 1" square when the Scale is 100% ...

... then if we change the Scale to 1200%, each square would be ? inches square*...

... or one ________  _________ .

:blink: ___ HUH ?

• NOT square inches ... but how many inches wide by how many inches high?

1 in. sq.  X 12 =12 in. X 12 in.= 1 ft. by 1 ft. for a box sized at 8ft. X 8 ft.
Darn. Told you I was over thinking it.
pdg

Excellante !

Another GOLD STAR for the man !!!

You are correcto mundo !

Now .......... we can make a wall prop ... but on a reduced scale because ...

... it is easier to work with a small object, no? :biggrin:

Quote - Excellante !

Another GOLD STAR for the man !!!

You are correcto mundo !

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Now .......... we can make a wall prop ... but on a reduced scale because ...

... it is easier to work with a small object, no? :biggrin:

Man... The wife's making jokes about small objects. Don't ya hate it when people read over your shoulder.
Doc thanks a lot for this and I'll pick it up later tomorrow. I really am grateful for the time you are putting into helping me and I hope I haven't taken up all of your Sunday with this though I think I have.
pdg

Hey pdg,

Tell wifey that Doc sez:

It's not the size that counts, it's what you can do with it, right?***  Right? ... RIGHT??? ... Helloooo....?

Anywho ... Watch as we turn an 8" box prop into an 8 foot wall for part of our ...

... SIMPLE ROOM !

Stay tuned ... :biggrin:

His tutorials are great. I learned so much.

Let's continue ... and make a "SmallWall" prop using the Grouping Tool.

Uh oh, something's missing from our new SmallWall prop ... What is it? :blink:

***** POP QUIZ ***

What is missing from the SmallWall prop?**

Quote - His tutorials are great. I learned so much.

Indeed. Informative, easy to understand; and presented in bite size chunks so you can play around with the concepts between lessons.

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Thank you edgeverse.

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Let's continue ... and make a "SmallWall" prop using the Grouping Tool.

Uh oh, something's missing from our new SmallWall prop ... What is it? :blink:

***** POP QUIZ ***

What is missing from the SmallWall prop?**

Not every wall needs a door or a window so it isn't one of those. Doc is there a back side to the wall? Is that what is missing? I notice that when I rotate it around the y axis it becomes transparent.

Another Gold Star gets issued  !******

**We will fix that ... Next ... ;=]

Attached Link: http://www.drgeep.com/OctaboxClass/octabox_00.htm

Learn how to make an "Octabox" prop.

Enjoy.

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And the cat said ...
***Purrfeck !!!

Another Gold Star gets issued  !******

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**We will fix that ... Next ... ;=]

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All because of your insight Doc. BTW how much do these stars weigh? I'm semi-retired and gold is selling at a premium these days. Heading out to learn about the "Octabox"
pdg

Dunno ......... maybe you could weigh it, no :lol:

Here's a sample to test.

We need to put the SmallWall and the Back together.

Next ....... Dr Geep's "Glue." ... :biggrin:

It's gonna get sticky ... stay tumed ..... :lol:

Quote - Dunno ......... maybe you could weigh it, no :lol:

Here's a sample to test. *****

 Yep... That's almost enough to double my income for the month

I've checked out the "Octabox" Doc and using that info was able to fill in the backside of the small wall, export it out to .obj and then import it back in as a single wall prop

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 Ok, almost finished ... DON'T MOVE ANYTHING ...... yet.

We need to put the SmallWall and the Back together.

Next ....... Dr Geep's "Glue." ... :biggrin:

It's gonna get sticky ... stay tumed ..... :lol:

Oh oh. Seems I am jumping ahead a bit here Doc.

[edit] There was supposed to be a sample of my work here but I don't know how to post a small animation to show you. Guess I would have to link to an external site. It would have shown the wall rotate 360 with a **G **on one side and a P on the other.

Quote -   Oh oh. Seems I am jumping ahead a bit here Doc.

No problem ... I can see that you're going to "ace" this class!

So ... Go for it !!! :biggrin:

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Quote - > Quote -   Oh oh. Seems I am jumping ahead a bit here Doc.

No problem ... I can see that you're going to "ace" this class!

So ... Go for it !!! :biggrin:

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Sorry to cut out on you there Doc. I got yanked away last night. I have built the small wall using the reverse normals method. I can see where this method of filling in the back side is much more useful than the "Octabox" method as it would handle irregular or more organic shapes. The "Octabox" requires that the geometry of a prop be completely regular. I'm learning. Thanks for your help.

Yup, you got it, Toyota!

I have put a window into the small wall by using the group editor to select polygons on both sides of the wall. I have assigned them a material and in the material room put a glass shader on them. This gives me a hole in the wall that the light will pass through. So far so good.

I then went back to my small wall and attempted to make a door in it. I again selected polygons on both sides of the wall and created a prop from them for the door. I moved the center of rotation to the side of the door by moving the Y origin. I used my window method to make the door opening transparent. The door opens and closes correctly but is hollow. Obviously this was not the correct method so blindly forging ahead isn't working all that well but one has to learn somehow.

Patiently waiting for my next lesson.
pdg

Let's finish looking at the dimensions of our SmallWall <--- (I renamed SmallWallComplete back to SmallWall after I deleted the original SmallWall object that didn't have a back side).

Anywho ...

BTW - what does pdg stand for? ... Pretty Darn Good? ... :lol:

We will get to the windows and doors soon. :huh:

We need to "fix" one more thing ... do you know what it is? ... :blink: ___ HUH?

Hint:  the answer is in the image (sort of)

Another hint - Review Page 6. :biggrin:

Quote - Another hint - Review Page 6. :biggrin:

Fix up the origin by dropping it to the floor?

Yes ... do you know why we want to do this? :blink:

Quote - Yes ... do you know why we want to do this? :blink:

I would assume so that walls can be kept upright when rotated to make corners. This would also help when putting them at an angle to create a roof. With the center of rotation in the center of the wall I see a bit more hassle trying to do these things.

Another guess is that it may have something to do with a gimbal lock problem that I hear of when rotating through 3 axis but I don't know much about that. Hense this is only a guess.
pdg