I have to admit, i have done it.

then i have even created programs using looping clips, that at randomly choose a clip to display so it lookslike the girl is a live and changes actions at will.

It really doesn't look real though.. So i always endup trashing the whole project

Nope.  Already have the dream woman in my life.  I have recreated her in Poser but not, I suspect, for the reasons you do. 

You need to get out more.  :biggrin:

My muse has always been a very strong driving force in my art. :)  I'm currently even making a game based on it, dating-sim style.  For me, the muse take different forms, but it's usually a female reflection of myself. I enjoy creating her as purpose for my art.

Any my wife is supportive of it as well, as she knows it's an important aspect of creating art.. Not to mention that the muse often has some or other resemblance of her. :o)

Yup, but only once.

(Once a day for the last 10 years.)

Extroverts like Sam are able to say "you need to get out more",
but it's really not that simple for an extreme introvert.

I tried once but she wouldn't let me. ;)

This is the result of us boys being separated from girls when we were in school. There is always this boys group vs the girls group. Even if we are not physically separated, we are mentally separated. If you take a look on the kids in school, very few boys and girls hang out together. No wonder many boys don't understand women and vice versa when they grow up.

This results to a predatory or parasitic behavior toward one another.

The media and political groups have brainwashed us to believe that we don't need one another. The truth is we do and if we just take the effort to just to communicate without preconditions to the other person, man and woman can make great achievements.

For example, there is some evidence that more women finish high school and college than men. They say its because women develop their language skills much earlier than men for we are much more interested with physical activities like sports and playing.

If that is the case, then instead of hiring more teachers and making more schools and repeat the same mistake, make boys and girls study buddies!

In kindergarden or in elementary schools, teach boys and girls to watch out for each other. Make sure one gets home safe after school. Involve the parents to watch out also with their kid's study buddies. Share each other's lunch food. Test each other's knowledge in a subject like one creates a mock up test which the other will answer and then switch. Teach them to encourage one another and teach them how to communicate.

For a long time I was clueless on how to communicate to women. I thought I needed some pickup line or some joke but it is actually just ask questions about her day, her life and her opinions. Young kids can do this to each other too. This will build their self confidence and develop the patience to listen attentively.

Just imagine the possibilities. Don't you all agree?

Well i'm not one to pick at anyone's choice of S.O. virtual or otherwise so have fun with whatever floats your boat.

Personally though i'd rather not have a dream GF that's prone to suddenly breaking her ankle or wrist, or one that gets debilitating back pain from the bowling balls on her chest. And i'm certainly not trained to administer a tracheotomy to one whose industrial strength lip collagen and microscopic nose combine to suffocate the poor dear. Plus what would the neighbours think about all that temple plundering, clad only in frazetta's nightmares. Heck, the cost of sword polish alone would probably bankrupt me...

Excellent comment , TheOwl, but our society is more concerned that close contact between the sexes will simply encourage sexual behavior, something which many in this society, ie the US, still fear more than many other issues..... my 2 cents.

Quote - This is the result of us boys being separated from girls when we were in school. There is always this boys group vs the girls group. Even if we are not physically separated, we are mentally separated. If you take a look on the kids in school, very few boys and girls hang out together. No wonder many boys don't understand women and vice versa when they grow up.

This results to a predatory or parasitic behavior toward one another.

The media and political groups have brainwashed us to believe that we don't need one another. The truth is we do and if we just take the effort to just to communicate without preconditions to the other person, man and woman can make great achievements.

For example, there is some evidence that more women finish high school and college than men. They say its because women develop their language skills much earlier than men for we are much more interested with physical activities like sports and playing.

If that is the case, then instead of hiring more teachers and making more schools and repeat the same mistake, make boys and girls study buddies!

In kindergarden or in elementary schools, teach boys and girls to watch out for each other. Make sure one gets home safe after school. Involve the parents to watch out also with their kid's study buddies. Share each other's lunch food. Test each other's knowledge in a subject like one creates a mock up test which the other will answer and then switch. Teach them to encourage one another and teach them how to communicate.

For a long time I was clueless on how to communicate to women. I thought I needed some pickup line or some joke but it is actually just ask questions about her day, her life and her opinions. Young kids can do this to each other too. This will build their self confidence and develop the patience to listen attentively.

Just imagine the possibilities. Don't you all agree?

In most cases, Brit boys and girls aren't segregated at school.

Quote - Excellent comment , TheOwl, but our society is more concerned that close contact between the sexes will simply encourage sexual behavior, something which many in this society, ie the US, still fear more than many other issues..... my 2 cents.

Education and respect to the other person prevents sexual behavior. Have you tried to have sex with a good friend? Difficult right? Because there is respect and both don't want to ruin their friendship while they need each other to survive school.

Deprive the other of human connection and you will have more teenage pregnancies and spineless fathers.

Quote - In most cases, Brit boys and girls aren't segregated at school.

But they are mentally separated.

IF WE ARE NOT SEPARATED FROM EACH OTHER, WE HAVE LITTLE NEED FOR FACEBOOK, MYSPACE AND OTHER SOCIAL WEBSITES.

Just take a look on profiles in this social networks. Isn't it being used mostly to call for attention?

Sam, I grew up in the golden age of Feminism and the uni-sex movement in the US.

As I child I believed that I would grow up to live in a society where sex and gender were inconsequential outside personal preference in romantic relationships. Instead I have found a tremendous backlash to women's advancement in the trades and professions. My children go to normal community public schools and the teachers constantly separate girls from boys as much as they can get away with doing. They grade preferential to boys and discourage girls from being outspoken or demonstrating intellectual ambitious. They excuse the boys terrible and violent behavior. They have things like boys only reading groups funded by the state since girls and boys can't possibly learn it the same way according to educators and there is a strong movement to end co-education in the public schools.

Then socially the boys as a group treat girls as non-people and only as sexual objects and girls attempt to sexualize themselves in grade school attempting to achieve value in the sexual market place even at that age. The sexual segregation is such that I feel most children now are only nominally heterosexual given they have such shallow relationships to members of the opposite sex and an affinity mainly for their own. My children say that as young as grade school and middle school many of the children openly consider themselves bi-sexual in orientation. This is my experience with my kids in Public School K-10 so far.

"Education and respect to the other person prevents sexual behavior. Have you tried to have sex with a good friend? Difficult right? Because there is respect and both don't want to ruin their friendship while they need each other to survive school."

I have never have sex with anyone who was not a good friend and I would never do so. I have told my children they should never have sex with anyone but a good friend. My wife and I from the start were friends foremost -- we have been together since our teens. In fact I think many arranged (not forced) marriages I have seen do well because they start from friendship I believe rather than from a misguided notion of romantic love.

Momodot, then you might have a good marriage there. I do agree in the benefits of having sex and getting married with someone you know and trust fully like a friend. Makes it more responsible and since they care for each other very much especially when they were friends since they were in school, a man can accept without the pain of rejection if the woman says she is still not ready to have sexual relations. As far as I know many teenage pregnancies and violent behavior are also came from peer pressure and lack of attention. It might not fully solve the problem but it might drastically reduce the "casualty of society" list.

I stated this point out of my past experience as a young man in school when I have a crush with a lady friend that I want sexual relations with but since she was a friend, I restrained myself because I don't want her to get hurt or ruin our friendship.

 Hm. segregation isn't always evil, i'd say it will mostly benefit the girls. I know that in my daughter's class where they're around 50/50 in boys/girlls, she enjoyed the few lessons they have in the lower classes  WITHOUT the noisy - mercury-speeding boys. I'll certainly not say it benefits the boys - especially not the odd actually QUIET boy in such a class - that poor sod won't have a chance of learning anything!

I, too, grew up in the unisex-times and for a long time I strongly believed in not treating boys any different from girls - or vice versa - but since I had kids of my own, I realised that they ARE different. I gave my kids(they're girls) both dolls and toy trucks (as a kid I always preferred Action Man to Barbie myself) but had to realise that there's apparently something genetic involved. Although they played with their toy trucks, they were mostly used as transportation for the dolls or stuffed animals, much like a push pram.

I think we're deluding ourselves if we cling to a unisex-belief. Boys and girls might in many ways as well be two different SPECIES!

That does't mean that some boys won't enjoy playing with "girl stuff" or the other way around. 

And as for splitting them up at school, I now see it as doing both sexes a favour by doing so. The average boy and -girl  just doesn't learn stuff the same way. Boys are much more hands on for once, AND they're usually a year or two behind, at least in the lower grades. That isn't meant to tease or belittle, it's just a fact that we develop in different tempi. Ask any teenager and she'll agree that boys needs more time to mature :)

And to get back to the original subject of this thread - I've never recreated my girlfriend, I don't have one :) I've recreated myself once, it wasn't a pretty sight.  But I HAVE recreated Severus Snape with practically each and any Poser figure out there. And made more or less precise versions of Alan Rickman as well. Same thing, only different ;)

Wasn't there this exact thread some time ago...? Seem to remember Sam answering the same as well, almost word for word... Or is this a Deja Vu moment...?

Yes

TheOwl... I understand now better your meaning. People are kinder and more thoughtful in general  to those whose friendship they value.

TG, the most immediate problem I see with segregation by sex in education is what is to be done with those boys who fit best with the girls and those girls who fit best with the boys. Many people match the gender stereotype of their sex in practically no way at all. I have no idea how to fit such a person in a sex segregated scheme. Gender is a social construction only connected to physical sex by social convention and a very few physical bio-chemical realities of relatively little import.

I am not referring to homosexuals... I mean men and women and boys and girls who are heterosexual but in all regards have the interest and inclinations, the skills and aptitudes of the opposite sex and to whom they are attracted. Some big burly men like women but are interested in no male stuff. Some very heterosexual women are interested in no female stuff. Not only in superficial ways but even in how they think and approach things. Your children may have matched the gender stereotypes of their sex but many children I have known do not and that is quite apart from sexual orientation.

I have read interviews where the author of Harry Potter has said clearly that she has no perception of her self as female BTW. Also the singer Dolly Parton has said she considers herself a man with big breasts.

Girl friend... what's that?

OK, jokes aside, no I never tried that and I really don't see the point in doing that. If I can't have the perfect GF in real life, I sure don't want to drool over one on a computer screen. I'm happy with my wife, she's perfect for me :-)

Oh... by the way, I do certainly try to make the foxy girls but my taste is pretty far ranging :)

An essential difference I would detect between men and women is that most men tend to be very  ecumenical in their taste while women are much more narrowly oriented... one might say quite rigorous in their taste.

 Momodot - being a friend of several transgendered people IRL, I agree, there is a problem if we're talking TOTAL segregation. but to have boys and girls apart in a few lessons each week .. I think that is mostly beneficial. It isn't any different than letting them change in separate locker rooms before a gym class.

Also in my daughter's school they divide them only in the lower grades, not in their final years where sex has more to say in a much more .. outspoken... manner :)

I've read about various studies touting the benefits of gender segregation in classes. I just recently read about a book or study that says there were benefits ti racial segregation for Black students.  In the end, I think the most important factor is not the makeup of the class but having teachers who are open to the potential of all their students and know how to encourage them to do their best - that along with the home environment and parents' attitudes.. 

Seperating girls and boys does work , at least in getting them to answer questions in class. Another thing that has had some success is placing kids in classes according to ability, but that has problems of its own.  You can usually tell when a boy is not paying attention to the work but fantasising about some girl, we used to wack them in the head with a rolled up paper , but thats not allowed any more :(  

Another question to the Poser users is did you ever put GI Joe and Barbie in a compromising position , or do a threesome with Ken ?  

I have a question to the male population here. Are you  intimidated by women who can be police officers, fly fighter planes, be a mechanic...in a nutshell women in the traditional male rolls?

hey, you guys are going way off topic

I think many women suspect men of trying to make the 'perfect girlfriend'...;) Of course, women would never make the perfect boyfriend...never happens...;)

"...intimidated by women who can be police officers, fly fighter planes, be a mechanic" 

Yes - anyone with a gun and a club and legal license to use them is intimidating

No - In fact a G Suit can be as sexy as a G String

No - If she can fix my car, more power to her

An excellent point TG about the TG :-) Those kids are probably catching hell already without another controversy so it would need to be implemented with thought and sensitivity - not something many the local school boards here seem to be known for IMO, especially on "hot button" issues. 

I find it crushingly disappointing there is only one pic in the thread (not complaining that it's of boys, just that it's the only one).

LOL! True! Guys, show off your GF's models!

By the way, the reason why I created my original subtopic is I have came across a video which explains about "The End of Men" in youtube and one of the factors explained is men's poor performance in school.

I noticed especially in high school where I personally heard from a female friend that when she graduated on her class, many boys have dropped and only two boys graduated and the rest are girls. The boys have no interest about the importance of studying for their future and instead just aspire to be RAPPERS!

One time I drove past a "school of beauty" where women are being trained how to become hairstylists and makeup artists, while they are in class, their boyfriends were outside, waiting and doing freestyle raps against each other. I could just shake my head in sorrow how near sighted these boys are about their future.

I think I saw an RSA youtube video about a psychologist explaining that statistics show that 3 boys drop out of school every second in America. And I was shocked and wonder how could this have happened? While in other countries especially in Asia, kids are performing well in their classes!

So in my conclusion, it is because of the primarily the MENTAL segregation of young boys and girls of them being taught that they are too different and couldn't possibly help each other.

I strongly believe that all you need to do is to create an environment that promotes literacy and I think since girls have an advantage early on in this, it will be beneficial to the boys to be in study buddies with them.

It's just danged hard to get a real girlfriend to pose in a temple, with a sword, y'know, the whole thing.  :unsure:

It might be interesting to rewrite the whole Pygmalion story about the creation of a Poser character.  Hmm.  Or maybe not.  Probably been done somewhere, if not necessarily about Poser specifically.

I'm not sure I've ever tried to create a dream girlfriend, really.  I have spent much time trying to perfect an idealized female.  But I always remember that I'm just not her type.  :lol:

I see to remember a movie called "Wierd Science" :laugh:

@ TheOwl,

I dont know where you are but a friend of mine was telling me about some of his high school class. They argued that they were making $5000 and up per week distributing drugs or delivering from the supplier to his distributors so why should they study hard to get a good job making maybe $20 an hour if they were very lucky.  Hard to argue with that , but 5 of his students died in the senior year. A couple shootings and a few OD.

The idea of segregating sexes is that in a mixed class the girls will defer to the boys and the boys wont answer because they dont want to be wrong in front of the girls. Split them up and they dont worry about image so much. Generally girls are better at language skills , and boys better at spacial relationships. 

Quote - I have a question to the male population here. Are you  intimidated by women who can be police officers, fly fighter planes, be a mechanic...in a nutshell women in the traditional male rolls?

It doesn't bother me--I used to date a woman who was far better with power tools than I was.  She built her own bed.  I.......still have all my fingers, which is about the most I can hope for.

Quote - I have a question to the male population here. Are you  intimidated by women who can be police officers, fly fighter planes, be a mechanic...in a nutshell women in the traditional male rolls?

Honest answer:

I'm not intimidated by anyone.

Quote - @ TheOwl,

I dont know where you are but a friend of mine was telling me about some of his high school class. They argued that they were making $5000 and up per week distributing drugs or delivering from the supplier to his distributors so why should they study hard to get a good job making maybe $20 an hour if they were very lucky.  Hard to argue with that , but 5 of his students died in the senior year. A couple shootings and a few OD.

The idea of segregating sexes is that in a mixed class the girls will defer to the boys and the boys wont answer because they dont want to be wrong in front of the girls. Split them up and they dont worry about image so much. Generally girls are better at language skills , and boys better at spacial relationships. 

1.) That argument is easy to counter! Tell them that smart people rule the world because they are not slaves of money unlike them because smart people know that money is just an illusion and dumb people like them are easily manipulated. Ever since money is created, things slowly began to have a price: relationships, basic necessities and even your future.

Money placed an imaginary value on things which in reality is nothing more than the value it has on your eyes and with the whole community it affects on. Money inflates, fluctuates and is uncontrollable. The people who are masters of them make fools of everyone who don't understand it that they end up losing their money and their real wealth to the money masters.

I have a friend who grew up in the mountains of China and she said the mountain people there have little use for money. It is because people share what they have to the neighborhood. Nobody gets hungry because the mountain provided them everything and also they have their farms and animals. People there are kind and happy because there is less expectations there and they have very good health. And they are smart too. Their intelligence is not academical but you can leave them in the middle of the forest and they will survive. If they choose to go down to the cities, they give high value to education because they know its advantages and it is the only way to survive living in a city.

So the key is not to depend too much on money and tap to the inexhaustible supply of the ability of the human brain because with the Recession and the pending economic collapse, its the only thing that can save you.

www.TheVenusProject.com for more information about a cashless society where the earth is equal heritage and the productive use of science and intelligent people has the say on things.

2.) The boys don't want to be wrong with the girls because they don't understand them. There is one quality that I like from women: they have the ability to give unconditional love. If they have been study buddies with each other since elementary, screwing up wont be too painful to them.

Quote - I see to remember a movie called "Wierd Science"

Oh.  Weird Science.  Yessss.  :scared:

The official Cage history jumps directly from 1984 to 1989.  I keep forgetting that the year 1985 actually happened for everyone else.  :lol:

Man, this thread is all over the place.  :lol:  Apologies to the OP for any contribution made to the general OT-ness by this post.

Also: I'm generally intimidated by pretty much everyone, until and unless they reveal themselves to be safe company.  Women, men, dogs, whatever.  Occupation, social status, and gender really aren't key points.  Everyone has an equal opportunity to be intimidating.  :lol:

There's a part of me that wanted to contribute to this thread but it's gone off in a weird tangent.  In fact, it may be going in several weird tangents.

Anyways, for most men, science says the ideal woman has a 7 to 10 waist to hips ratio, good for breeding but some say it also hints at intelligence, and a very symmeterical face.

If someone posts a new thread I might go into something specific to me.  But then again maybe not.

Dream GF no ... idealized alter-ego : YES. I'd share the render but it's from poser 3 or 4 and I'm not putting that drek online.

I am TG and find all of this fascinating btw. :)

Quote - There's a part of me that wanted to contribute to this thread but it's gone off in a weird tangent.  In fact, it may be going in several weird tangents.

Anyways, for most men, science says the ideal woman has a 7 to 10 waist to hips ratio, good for breeding but some say it also hints at intelligence, and a very symmeterical face.

If someone posts a new thread I might go into something specific to me.  But then again maybe not.

That's thread drift for you.  :)

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Another question to the Poser users is did you ever put GI Joe and Barbie in a compromising position , or do a threesome with Ken ?  

Guilty as charged L I even ..er.. fitted them with the necessary ... er.. you know what's needed to "insert tab A into slot B"

And was scared shitless that my mom would discover it :lol: