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Subject: How Do You Turn Off The Render Display When Outputting Frames To A File For Anim


zonkerman ( ) posted Thu, 21 October 2010 at 1:41 PM · edited Wed, 25 December 2024 at 10:53 AM

Hello.
I would like to turn off the render display window while generating .png files for an animation. I have the render options window set to output to a file and not the screen but that appears to only apply when you are rendering a single image.  I am generating over 2,000 .png files as output from an animation and so would like to hide the render visual display window in the hopes that it might save me some level of render time but I don't see where that option is to turn it off.  If anyone knows how to turn it off while rendering an animation please let me know.  Thanks.


thd777 ( ) posted Thu, 21 October 2010 at 1:57 PM

Hello!

You need to switch to the "external renderer" in the animation render options. After that it will fire up the external render process when you start the render and you can quit Vue. The render will continue.

Ciao

One suggestion: Post follow-up questions in your original thread rather than starting a new thread. That way people who have replied will get a notification and you might get answers faster.


zonkerman ( ) posted Thu, 21 October 2010 at 2:02 PM

Thanks thd777.  That sounds better than I had hoped.  Will I still be able to use Vue while the external render is running so long as I don't try another external render, just internal ones?


thd777 ( ) posted Thu, 21 October 2010 at 2:11 PM

That depends on your system. If it can handle the external renderer and the Vue interface running at the same time, then yes. I have a 64bit Windows 7 i930 with 12Gb of ram and I can run both as long as the scenes do not get too complex. However, anything you do in Vue will suck up cpu cycles, so you do slow down the renderer and if you run out of memory it will crash.

Ciao
TD


bruno021 ( ) posted Thu, 21 October 2010 at 2:15 PM

How many threads are you going to open for the same thing? Can't you just add to an existing thread?



zonkerman ( ) posted Thu, 21 October 2010 at 2:22 PM

Hello Bruno021.
I hear ya.  How do I delete this one? I'm going to copy some info from here and put it in the prior one.  I don't know how to delete this one.


thd777 ( ) posted Thu, 21 October 2010 at 2:25 PM

I don't think that you can delete a thread, only moderators can.

Just stick with this one for further questions and let the others slowly drift of the page.

Ciao
TD


zonkerman ( ) posted Fri, 22 October 2010 at 8:33 PM

Okay, I'm going to try and use another computer connected to the one I am already using with the rendercow software.  I'm reading up on it now.  My current PC is running Windows 7 64bit Ultimate.  Should I put the same software on the other PC? The other PC has no operating system yet so now is a good time to decide what to put on it that works best for this rendercow solution.


thd777 ( ) posted Sat, 23 October 2010 at 6:32 AM

The operating system on the render pc is not critical. I have mixed various flavors of Win 7 and even XP without iussues. If you have a license available I would definitely go with a 64bit version. For windows 7 it is useful to have pro or ultimate as they can act as servers for remote desktop, meaning you can control them form your main pc via remote. My render PCs don't have monitors, so that way I can easily control them.

Ciao

TD


zonkerman ( ) posted Sat, 23 October 2010 at 10:34 AM

You are lucky your Windows 7 64 bit setup works for you because mine is not. I have openned a ticket at e-onsoftware.  My HyperVue Network Manager gets stuck at "Sending scene".  I openned another thread hear on this problem. Everything looks okay and access between my main PC and the rendercow are very relaxed. Everything appears to be aligned with port number an build number but it won't work. The rendercow pc says its receiving but nothing beyond that.  My network switchbox shows heavy traffice and the main PC shows almost 100% network traffic so it is trying to send something but somewhere along the line something is wrong. Both PCs have the same accounts and passwords so access between the two is very easy. No problem browsing files between the two.


thd777 ( ) posted Sat, 23 October 2010 at 12:17 PM · edited Sat, 23 October 2010 at 12:22 PM

Hmm. Not sure what is happening. Once it is sending the scene I have usually no issues. Sometime Hypervue doesn't see the cows and I have to add them by entering the IP adress, but otherwise it works nicely. However, I never used network render prior to Vue 8 and you are using Vue 6 if I recall correctly?

How large is the scene? Does the "sending" finish? It can take 10 to 15 minutes for very large scenes to transfer to the cow depending on your network speed.

Also make sure, that there isn't a firewall in the way. The cow and hypervue might need to be added to the allowed lists depending on your setup.

How much memory does the extra PC have? Use the task manager to look at the memory use of the cow. That way you can see if it actuially tries to load the scene (the memory footprint should increase) and if it runs into a low memory situation.

Good Luck

TD


zonkerman ( ) posted Sat, 23 October 2010 at 12:48 PM

Hello thd777.

Yes,I am using Vue 6 Infinite. I just visited the forums on e-onsoftware and there are other folks complaining of problems recently with rendcows with the new version of Vue 8 while using Windows 7 64 bit, see the link here:

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/support/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=4469

The extra PC has 6 gigs of ram. Its a new DELL T7500. I'm getting tempted to just take all my software from my currently old PC and put it on that one, just don't really thave the time.

The firewall is off on the new PC. Am running Norton on the old one but told norton to give full trust to the new one.

The scene is about 34 megs and is made of several poser imported items and cornucopia items also.  I have waited at least 3 hours for the "Sending scene" message and nothing so I think it is stuck somewhere.  I can copy files to and from the new PC and visa versa  a few hundred megs in size pretty quick so shouldn't be a slow network or something like that.

I have attached to this reply a document of pictures which I have sent to e-onsupport.


zonkerman ( ) posted Sat, 23 October 2010 at 3:42 PM · edited Sat, 23 October 2010 at 3:45 PM

How can I verify that the Host Name listed in the HyperVue is using the port I specified when I added that rendercow to the HyperVue window? When I added the rendercow to the HyperVue window it asked me to specify either the host name or ip address and the port number.  I'd like to see some kind of verification that the port number I specified was accepted by seeing it in the HyperView window but it is not displayed.  I can't see anywhere a way to verify the port number I specified to the HyperVue is actually being referenced.  I can see it on the actual rednercow PC but what about the HyperVue PC

I'm trying to insure I am using an available port by checking the netstat -an command


zonkerman ( ) posted Sat, 23 October 2010 at 4:12 PM

Okay maybe things will work now we will see.  I turned User Account Control off on both PCs and now the 2 PCs are send and receiving render information.  Maybe this will work, I'll have to see


zonkerman ( ) posted Sun, 24 October 2010 at 11:59 AM

551 frames rendered on the rendercow pc, so it appears to be working.  However, twice I had to restart the render job from where it left off because for no reason the rendercow pc would say "done" and not take any more frames, even though I had a few thousand still to go. The other odd thing was that I had to redo a single frame within a range but the Vue would not let me do it.  I had to redo something like frame number 425 which was not done because I aborted its render on one of the render PCs. When I specified in the animation window to only render 425 to 425 it would show it was rendering something but it never really did number 425.  When all are done I will revisit and try again.  Maybe you can't just do 1 so next time I will tell it to do 425 to 426.

 


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